The Dolphins

[True Bills Fan]

It seems the dolphins keep getting better all year long. I'm a big fan of who they drafted. Jason Allen is a great safety and Derek Hagan is said to be just like anquan boldin. I dont think we can beat them one this year. Saban really has that team going the right way. What do you guys think of the Dolphins and how do you think thell do this year

[MVP]

7-9 Daunte will be back to his 2005 season ways.

[OpIv37]

they're improving, and with NE slowing down and the Bills and Jets in turmoil, the fish could be the best team in the division. Until Culpepper is ready, they have QB issues and that will hold them back a little.

[dolphan117]

7-9 Daunte will be back to his 2005 season ways.Not just being a homer about this but that would suprise me. Back before we traded for him and it was looking like either Brees or Duante we really got into it on finheaven breaking down stats and such. In the end I liked that Brees didnt really have any off the field concerns but in terms of football ability Culpepper was just far more productive and I ended up hoping we landed him. If you want to read a breakdown of just how good his stats are here (http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/showthread.php?t=130336) is a pretty good writup.

[BuffaloBillsStampede]

I understand the capabilities of Culpepper, but the Dolphins remind me a lot of us a couple years back when we went on that run to end the season. All off season I heard the experts picking the Bills as a wild card team for the playoffs last season and we all see how well that turned out. The Dolphins have some good talent no doubt, but I honestly believe they are being over hyped like we were last off season. They will be a pretty good team, not a great team.

[HAMMER]

Culpepper has a LOT to prove before I give him props. He looked horrible w/o Moss on the field, that tells me that maybe he was chucking it up quite a bit and Moss' height and athleticism skewed Peps numbers. This on top of his knee, which will not be back to 100% until 2007. He will see the field much sooner, but a large part of Culpeppers game is his mobility and that will be limited for quite a while. Most of all I hate his attitude, who asks for a raise a year after they get a huge contract w/ no performance during that year? He may end up being a steal but he has a ways to go to get back to being elite as he was 2-3 years ago.

[Kerr]

Yes, culpepper has to prove the critics wrong as far as playing at pro bowl form without a Moss. Even the dolphins knows this because they set out and gave up a draft pick for Joey Harrington. At least they tried to get a backup plan.

[justasportsfan]

I understand the capabilities of Culpepper, but the Dolphins remind me a lot of us a couple years back when we went on that run to end the season. All off season I heard the experts picking the Bills as a wild card team for the playoffs last season and we all see how well that turned out. The Dolphins have some good talent no doubt, but I honestly believe they are being over hyped like we were last off season. They will be a pretty good team, not a great team.
The difference is that their coach is no tool. Moolarkey wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. Saban too has surounded himself with good asst. coaches.


This is why I like philosophy of the D to run towards the ball. Should be interesting to see them go after Miami's wr/rb when Moolarkey calls for a reverse play....... in 3rd and inches on the goal line :snicker:

[Bill Brasky]

It seems the dolphins keep getting better all year long.
It also seems that their entire roster will consist of ex-convicts and recently paroled criminals by opening day.

We should all fear for our safety when they come to town... Bills security won't even let us bring signs into the stadium, how will we protect ourselves when Duante Culpepper and Marcus Vick try to turn The Ralph into a porno set?

[Bling]

try to turn The Ralph into a porno set?

Too late. Just ask Losman. He's had his fun with Favre.

[OpIv37]

Culpepper has a LOT to prove before I give him props. He looked horrible w/o Moss on the field, that tells me that maybe he was chucking it up quite a bit and Moss' height and athleticism skewed Peps numbers. This on top of his knee, which will not be back to 100% until 2007. He will see the field much sooner, but a large part of Culpeppers game is his mobility and that will be limited for quite a while. Most of all I hate his attitude, who asks for a raise a year after they get a huge contract w/ no performance during that year? He may end up being a steal but he has a ways to go to get back to being elite as he was 2-3 years ago.

you're right except the Dolphins were 9-7 last year with Feely/Fiedler and Culpepper won't be worse than them.

The Fish have proven they can get by with crappy QB's, so I still think they're going to be at least decent this year,

[DynaPaul]

I thought that they were improving until they signed Mike Mularkey and then Daunte Culpepper. Now they have assured themselves of offensive ineptness for a long time. Their defense is still good and will have to carry the team if they are going to have a winning record.

[Mitchy moo]

Mularkey = Mentally challenged

Mularkey + offense = Mentally challenged

Any team + Mularkey = under .500

[!Papacrunk!]

lol, is it just me or doesn't it seem obvious that the person that started this thread is a Dolphins fan--he only has 2 posts, and it looks like the one above was to just stir the pot.

I
've mentioned this before, but it sure seemed like Moss was hurting w/o having Culpepper throw the ball to him last year. Don't get me wrong, his numbers were still great, but compared to his previous season, they weren't Moss numbers. I would imagine when someone loses their Pro Bowl Center, a Pro Bowl Wr, their coordinator in Scott Linehan they may suffer a bit correct? It's amusing that peeps that are pro-Culpepper look at his career as a whole (stats wise,) but the naysayers only put the last season under the microscope as if that's the only thing he's ever done. It's also funny that we're slowly doing things to improve spots that were deficiencies pointed out by Bills fans in the past and now that we're on the road to improve them--bad coach, no QB, predictable defense, can't win in December, etc, they're still "going no where."

So far it seems like Saban is on the right track, have to give it more time to see exactly how everything will pan out for him. Like someone mentioned before, we were still doing ok w/ serviceable caretaker QBs, but now we have a Pro Bowl QB that is still relatively young in the scope of things, but obviously we'll have to see how his knee ends up. The most recent prognosis from the doctor that had done the surgery has said that he's doing exceptionally great and is ahead of schedule, but then again setbacks can happen. Harrington stunk it up in Detroit (duh,) but he still has a lot of valuable game experience and is still young--maybe he will still continue to be a sub par QB, or maybe he's young enough to take a new step in the right direction and improve for the best with the cliched new place/new system. You have to admit, the Lions franchise has been pretty bad for a long time now, I would imagine that would make a lot of people's careers take a nose dive. Our defense still has some playrmakers, albeit some of them (Taylor and Thomas) aren't getting any younger, but they seem to have really strived in the implementation of the 3-4 defense and it seems like Taylor did well at playing both a DE and an OLB (even w/ a foot injury--torn plantar fascia.) The old defense (4-3) did get predictable over time, but now w/ Saban's system they are able to employ so many new wrinkles especially with the blitzes (which is still wild to see a Dolphins team effectively blitz.) Also Don Capers now lending his expertise in the 3-4 system w/ his good friend Nick Saban. The secondary has been addressed with younger and faster players, and we're slowly getting youth to other parts of the defense as well. As far as winning in December, I guess it will have to happen more than just one year, but finishing 6-o last year was a good way to begin the stopping of that ugly trend of choking in December. Saban is changing the culture in Miami, whether you agree or not isn't the issue, the Dolphins are just focusing on the next play and not looking back. So good luck w/ your own team, it will be fun to watch in 2006.

[feelthepain]

90% of this thread just seems like wishful thinking to me. Honestly, some of you are really ridiculous. What sport do you people watch, midget tossing??? Because most of you don't know a damn thing about football, that... or you just plain refuse to accept reality.


MVP:


7-9 Daunte will be back to his 2005 season ways.


Miami was 9-7 with Gus as the QB and we get a three time porbowler and league MVP runner up in Culpepper. We've also upgraded our Oline, Dline, secondary, WR's and TE positions. We added Dom Capers and MM, say what you want about MM he lost a lot of talent from his first season to his second season in Buffalo regardless of what uneducated Bill fans think, MM is a very good OC. Saban is going into his second season with a year under his belt and we will win 2 less games??? "7-9 Daunte will be back to his 2005 season way's"..... That's bias and just plain stupid!! Good job MVP.


BuffaloBillsStampede:

I understand the capabilities of Culpepper, but the Dolphins remind me a lot of us a couple years back when we went on that run to end the season. All off season I heard the experts picking the Bills as a wild card team for the playoffs last season and we all see how well that turned out. The Dolphins have some good talent no doubt, but I honestly believe they are being over hyped like we were last off season. They will be a pretty good team, not a great team.

Wrong!!! Who did the Bills lose in 2005 and who did they sign???

Lost:

D.Bledsoe
T.Henry
TKO
P.Williams

Who they got:

Rosco Parrish????

Yeah, the Bills made huge strides in upgrading the roster in 2005, It was all MM fault for not coaching that huge mass of talent that found their way to Buffalo!!


HAMMER:

Culpepper has a LOT to prove before I give him props. He looked horrible w/o Moss on the field, that tells me that maybe he was chucking it up quite a bit and Moss' height and athleticism skewed Peps numbers. This on top of his knee, which will not be back to 100% until 2007. He will see the field much sooner, but a large part of Culpeppers game is his mobility and that will be limited for quite a while. Most of all I hate his attitude, who asks for a raise a year after they get a huge contract w/ no performance during that year? He may end up being a steal but he has a ways to go to get back to being elite as he was 2-3 years ago.


Culpepper has a lot to prove??? Why because you're to much of a homer to give the fins credit for landing a franchise QB? All but the first four games of the the 2005 season Daunte has been a premier QB in the NFL. He's been in the league since 99 and has been to 3 probowls and very nearly won league MVP. But he has something to prove?? Well don't worry, he will.

jfreeman:

It also seems that their entire roster will consist of ex-convicts and recently paroled criminals by opening day.

We should all fear for our safety when they come to town... Bills security won't even let us bring signs into the stadium, how will we protect ourselves when Duante Culpepper and Marcus Vick try to turn The Ralph into a porno set?


Whats the matter timmy, Mommy take your nook??? I love it when the two year olds sneek onto mommy and daddy's computer and start typing babble.
Let us know when you grow up and learn how to add to the conversation like an adult.


DevilPaul:

I thought that they were improving until they signed Mike Mularkey and then Daunte Culpepper. Now they have assured themselves of offensive ineptness for a long time. Their defense is still good and will have to carry the team if they are going to have a winning record.

The opinion of the leglally blind and dumb, yeah we sure are in bad shape with MM and DC please oh please find some expert opinions that agrees with yours!!


Skooby:

Mularkey = Mentally challenged

Mularkey + offense = Mentally challenged

Any team + Mularkey = under .500

Gee when was MM hired as the HC??? He wasn't and when did we change from Scott Linehans to MM system?? We didn't!! But as usual the ******s on this borad just aren't capable of learning, so they just sit there with their giant diapers on wating for someone to teach them the facts about their own division rivals and wait for someon to change their big messy diapers!!


It's a damn shame it take weeks,sometimes even months to put together one single thread of Bill fan responses that aren't full of stupid, uneducated, bias homer crap. Why aren't you people capable??


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[Slim]

90% of this thread just seems like wishful thinking to me. Honestly, some of you are really ridiculous. What sport do you people watch, midget tossing??? Because most of you don't know a damn thing about football, that... or you just plain refuse to accept reality.


MVP:


Miami was 9-7 with Gus as the QB and we get a three time porbowler and league MVP runner up in Culpepper. We've also upgraded our Oline, Dline, secondary, WR's and TE positions. We added Dom Capers and MM, say what you want about MM he lost a lot of talent from his first season to his second season in Buffalo reguarless of what uneducated Bill fans think, MM is a very good OC. Saban is going into his second season with a year under his belt and we will win 2 less games??? "7-9 Daunte will be back to his 2005 season way's"..... That's bias and just plain stupid!! Good job MVP.


BuffaloBillsStampede:


Wrong!!! Who did the Bills lose in 2005 and who did they sign???

Lost:

D.Bledsoe
T.Henry
TKO
P.Williams

Who they got:

Rosco Parrish????

Yeah, the Bills made huge strides in upgrading the roster in 2005, It was all MM fault for not coaching that huge mass of talent that found their way to Buffalo!!


HAMMER:



Culpepper has a lot to prove??? Why because your to much of a homer to give the fins credit for landing a franchise QB? All but the first four games of the the 2005 season Daunte has been a premier QB in the NFL. He's been in the league since 99 and has been to 3 probowls and very nearly won league MVP. But he has something to prove?? Well don't worry, he will.

jfreeman:



Whats the matter timmy, Mommy take your nook??? I love it when the two year olds sneek onto mommy and daddy's computer and start typing babble.
Let us know when you grow up and learn how to add to the conversation like an adult.


DevilPaul:


The opinion of the leglally blind and dumb, yeah we sure are in bad shape with MM and DC please oh please find some expert opinions that agrees with yours!!


Skooby:


Gee when was MM hired as the HC??? He wasn't and when did we change from Scott Linehans to MM system?? We didn't!! But as usual the ******s on this borad just aren't capable of learning, so they just sit there with their giant diapers on wating for someone to teach them the facts about their own division rivals and wait for someon to change their big messy diapers!!


It's a damn shame it take weeks,sometimes even months to put together one single thread of Bill fan responses that aren't full of stupid, uneducated, bias homer crap. Why aren't you people capable??


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I dont think anybody is actually going to read that.

[BADTHINGSMAN]

I really hate to say it, but I think the Phins have a pretty decent team.. This if Culpepper returns from injury.. Sure he struggled without Moss, but Chambers is no slouch, and McMicheals isnt either plus Ronnie Brown in the backfield.. Culpepper will have some weapons around him..

[SABURZFAN]

:monkeyp:
I dont think we can beat them one this year.



and you call yourself True Bills Fan???

[!Papacrunk!]

:monkeyp:



and you call yourself True Bills Fan???
I mentioned in my previous post that it seems obvious that it's some Dolphins fan registered as a Bills fan, am I the only one that sees this?

Also, here's an update on Culpepper's current condition:

Saban weighs in on Culpepper, Ricky (http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/football/14659149.htm)


''Daunte has done more than we ever thought he could at this time in terms of his physical ability,'' Saban said. ``He's been cleared to do things at his position as the next part of his rehab. To start taking three-step, five-step, seven-step drops, hand the ball off on some of the zone plays, drop back and throw it and do what he does with his position.

I also like how he handles the media that is always asking him to pratically put a physical date on when he will return:


Asked if that means Culpepper will be under center in September, Saban said, ``I'm not going to speculate and make predictions. Hopefully, if he continues to progress, he'll have some opportunity to do that. I'm not going to put that pressure on him. These are things that go day-to-day and week-to-week. And we're going to see how he progresses.''

Setbacks can happen, but I'm pleased of Culpepper's progression.

[DarbyTheDinosaur]

It seems the dolphins keep getting better all year long. I'm a big fan of who they drafted. Jason Allen is a great safety and Derek Hagan is said to be just like anquan boldin. I dont think we can beat them one this year. Saban really has that team going the right way. What do you guys think of the Dolphins and how do you think thell do this year

What happened to the good old days? Your name is True Bills Fan but you start a thread talking about how the Dolphags are getting better and how you are a fan of who they drafted. Some advice...for anyone that is a "true bills fan"...any post started about the Dolphins should contain one or more of the following statements:

The Dolphins suck.
I hate the Dolphins.
The Dolphins are a team of criminals.
We will own the dolphins this year.
Moo Moo Mularkey is a doofus.
F The Dolphins.
The Dolphins perfect season never actually occured, it is actually a great conspiracy formed by CIA operatives to make Miami attractive to Cuban refugees.

This should all be quite elementary for a Bills fan. We'll let this one slide, but if it happens a second time...shame on you.

[justasportsfan]

I dont think anybody is actually going to read that.:snicker: The minute he questions peoples football knowledge, you already know his post is a JOKE

[CAbills]

Dolphins secondary = weaaaakkk