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R. Rich
05-30-2006, 08:37 AM
Discuss the goings on of the rookie draft here. Now.

BillsFever21
05-30-2006, 08:40 AM
This has worked out wonderful for me. Both players I targeted are still there. I never thought that was gonna happen.

The King
05-30-2006, 08:42 AM
What a suprise, Rich took a DE.

R. Rich
05-30-2006, 08:46 AM
I had D'Brickashaw Ferguson on my short list for quite a while, but in the end, I had to do what was best for my team. My starting DEs are a 6 and a 9, and the depth behind them is suspect. I already have a couple of 8 offensive tackles starting, one of whom I think will be rated even higher next season. My depth on the OL is much better than my depth on the DL, so I made the tough choice to go DE instead of OT.

The King
05-30-2006, 08:50 AM
You can't go wrong either way. What # did you draft last year Rich I forget.

BillsFever21
05-30-2006, 08:52 AM
I am thrilled to get Ferguson here. I thought for sure the Top 3 would go Bush, Williams and Ferguson. The Wookies major curveball landed me Ferguson.

I thought for sure I would be drafting AJ Hawk today. Which I wouldn't have been upset about but it's much harder to find a franchise Tackle then it is a LB. Considering I don't have crap for other Tackle spot I can't be any happier about what transpired today. I can address LB later on. This is a very deep draft for LB.

tampabay25690
05-30-2006, 08:56 AM
I am thrilled to get Ferguson here. I thought for sure the Top 3 would go Bush, Williams and Ferguson. The Wookies major curveball landed me Ferguson.

I thought for sure I would be drafting AJ Hawk today. Which I wouldn't have been upset about but it's much harder to find a franchise Tackle then it is a LB. Considering I don't have crap for other Tackle spot I can't be any happier about what transpired today. I can address LB later on. This is a very deep draft for LB.

Thats who I would have picked for but I am happy with Vernon Davis and AJ HAwk

R. Rich
05-30-2006, 08:58 AM
You can't go wrong either way. What # did you draft last year Rich I forget.
Same exact spot: 2nd, where I took LB Derrick Johnson.

The King
05-30-2006, 08:59 AM
I was hoping to land Davis at 10. But that was just a pipe dream.

tampabay25690
05-30-2006, 09:02 AM
I was hoping to land Davis at 10. But that was just a pipe dream.

I know he is the only guy to throw to in San Fran so I couldnt pass him up

BillsFever21
05-30-2006, 09:04 AM
Ferguson better not end up the next Mike Williams. LOL

DrForbes
05-30-2006, 09:04 AM
I don't like Lienhart as a pro as much as I like the other two QBs but, from a fantasy point of view and the team he is on I think he was the best choice.

The King
05-30-2006, 09:06 AM
considering NE has Alex Smith I think it was necessary

tampabay25690
05-30-2006, 09:08 AM
Who wants the 11th pick in the 1st round will look for a late 1st rounder and a 2nd rounder...

R. Rich
05-30-2006, 09:45 AM
So far, there haven't been too many surprises w/ this draft.

R. Rich
05-30-2006, 10:01 AM
Maroney going 9th? That's a bit of a shocker, but a good pick nonetheless.

BillsFever21
05-30-2006, 10:06 AM
Maroney going 9th? That's a bit of a shocker, but a good pick nonetheless.

I guess that's why he wanted to trade down. I was looking at Maroney...with the #24.

DrForbes
05-30-2006, 10:07 AM
Maroney going 9th? That's a bit of a shocker, but a good pick nonetheless.

Of the Rb's I had him rated the lowest, only because he is on that offense that is so diverse.

ryjam282
05-30-2006, 10:07 AM
Yeah, I knew he would be met with some groans but there really isn't anything else out there that I really need that will help as fast as he will.

I mean I have Edge at RB but at 7.5 mil he is definitely expendable.
I need help at other positions but none of them were worth the money I was gonna pay a round 1 guy IMO.

BillsFever21
05-30-2006, 10:11 AM
Yeah, I knew he would be met with some groans but there really isn't anything else out there that I really need that will help as fast as he will.

I mean I have Edge at RB but at 7.5 mil he is definitely expendable.
I need help at other positions but none of them were worth the money I was gonna pay a round 1 guy IMO.

If that's the guy you wanted and you couldn't trade down then that's great. At least all of the picks are the same price. If you reach for a player(unlike the NFL) that you could've had later at least you're not paying more money for him.

The King
05-30-2006, 10:14 AM
I should gets some grunts too. There is no market to trade down and I got the best guy available at a position I needed to address.

ryjam282
05-30-2006, 10:15 AM
Of the Rb's I had him rated the lowest, only because he is on that offense that is so diverse.


Yes, the offense might be diverse, but if and when he is the starter, he will get 20-30 carries a game and the Pats like to run the ball in the redzone and late in games.

With DeAngelo Williams, I know Foster is the starter and they still have Goings so that is a bit of a log jam.

With Addai, the Colts have plenty of backs that are going to be mixed in as well. Not to mention, Manning will be throwing the ball a lot more too.

ryjam282
05-30-2006, 10:17 AM
I should gets some grunts too. There is no market to trade down and I got the best guy available at a position I needed to address.


You won't get any groans from me, Mangold is solid and will be for a long time for you. Nice Pick.

BillsFever21
05-30-2006, 10:18 AM
I should gets some grunts too. There is no market to trade down and I got the best guy available at a position I needed to address.

My only grunt is that's who I wanted with #24.

The King
05-30-2006, 10:22 AM
My only grunt is that's who I wanted with #24.

I couldnt take that risk. Even with the first pick in the 2nd round. He is by far the best center available, I figured someone would have the same need between now and then.

Here is how my trade with Canada worked out.

Brewsers traded 1. Reggie Bush and Greg Spires
Canadien Radiation Kings traded 1. Nick Mangold, Lenard Little and Al Wilson.

R. Rich
05-30-2006, 10:27 AM
My only grunt is that's who I wanted with #24.
Remember, 22 comes before 24.

R. Rich
05-30-2006, 10:28 AM
I couldnt take that risk. Even with the first pick in the 2nd round. He is by far the best center available, I figured someone would have the same need between now and then.

Here is how my trade with Canada worked out.

Brewsers traded 1. Reggie Bush and Greg Spires
Canadien Radiation Kings traded 1. Nick Mangold, Lenard Little and Al Wilson.
Good pick, Michael. I was definitely interested in taking Mangold in the 2nd w/ one of my 3 picks, but it looks like he wasn't going to last even if you took someone else in the first (since your pick is just before mine in the 2nd).

R. Rich
05-30-2006, 10:32 AM
Mikey's turn to pick. Now.

Sabre Ally
05-30-2006, 10:35 AM
Ooooh, Mikey better not take my guy!

The King
05-30-2006, 10:35 AM
Good pick, Michael. I was definitely interested in taking Mangold in the 2nd w/ one of my 3 picks, but it looks like he wasn't going to last even if you took someone else in the first (since your pick is just before mine in the 2nd).

It just wasnt a risk I wanted to take. I figured most people would have him as a target in the late first early second. And with Jeff Faine as my starter, I needed an improvement...bad.

L.A. Playa
05-30-2006, 10:39 AM
wake me up when its my pick

BillsFever21
05-30-2006, 10:41 AM
Remember, 22 comes before 24.

I didn't say I thought he would be there. Just who I wanted. :D

I figured somebody would take him.

R. Rich
05-30-2006, 10:42 AM
I didn't say I thought he would be there. Just who I wanted. :D

I figured somebody would take him.
I hear ya. I really thought I'd be able to land him w/ my 22nd pick, so I now have to redo my strategy a bit.

R. Rich
05-30-2006, 10:44 AM
wake me up when its my pick
It's your pick.

The King
05-30-2006, 10:44 AM
Im happy I could mess up peoples boards a bit.

R. Rich
05-30-2006, 10:51 AM
Im happy I could mess up peoples boards a bit.
It's a good thing, actually. The more people go earlier than expected, the more good players I had no intent on scouting (since I thought they'd be gone) will become available.

Sabre Ally
05-30-2006, 10:52 AM
Miikkkkkeeeeyyyy. pick pick pick

R. Rich
05-30-2006, 10:54 AM
Miikkkkkeeeeyyyy. pick pick pick
Hey Ally; sup fool! I missed ya last year over in Section 123. You should come back.

L.A. Playa
05-30-2006, 10:54 AM
It's your pick.

liar !!!!

Sabre Ally
05-30-2006, 10:55 AM
I'll be there at least once or twice this year, Rich.

Sabre Ally
05-30-2006, 11:01 AM
ARGH! Mikey, you waited until the last second, and then picked my guy.

DrForbes
05-30-2006, 11:02 AM
We're way past the 8th pick and no one has taken Donte yet. What's up with that?

R. Rich
05-30-2006, 11:02 AM
liar !!!!
I didn't say 'now'.

BillsFever21
05-30-2006, 11:02 AM
It's a good thing, actually. The more people go earlier than expected, the more good players I had no intent on scouting (since I thought they'd be gone) will become available.

Agreed.

I never factored in 2 QB's to be drafted before my pick in the 2nd round. Somebody we never expected should fall to us.

Michael82
05-30-2006, 11:03 AM
ARGH! Mikey, you waited until the last second, and then picked my guy.
:ontome: I just woke up and was thrilled that he was still there. I was desperate for a QB. :D

BillsFever21
05-30-2006, 11:04 AM
:ontome: I just woke up and was thrilled that he was still there. I was desperate for a QB. :D

Thanks to me. :bravo:

R. Rich
05-30-2006, 11:04 AM
We're way past the 8th pick and no one has taken Donte yet. What's up with that?
I don't think he'd want to hold a clipboard for the Assassins. Our secondary is good to go w/ Dunta Robinson and Nathan Vasher @ the corners plus Bob Sanders and Sean Taylor @ safeties.Then again, Taylor might be in jail soon...

Sabre Ally
05-30-2006, 11:08 AM
You can rest easy now, Forbes, Donte is gone.

Michael82
05-30-2006, 11:08 AM
I'll be there at least once or twice this year, Rich.
Yeah baby! I can't wait! :jig:

Michael82
05-30-2006, 11:09 AM
Good pick Ally! It was either Vince Young or Donte Whitner for me. :up:

R. Rich
05-30-2006, 11:23 AM
I'll be there at least once or twice this year, Rich.
Good. I'll deal w/ you then.

R. Rich
05-30-2006, 11:34 AM
Someone wake Patrick up and let him know it's his time to pick. Now.

R. Rich
05-30-2006, 12:07 PM
There's still quite a few good players left. I'm going shopping in Round 2!

The King
05-30-2006, 12:10 PM
I am psyched by some of the guys still around. My other choice for round one is still on the board!

R. Rich
05-30-2006, 12:16 PM
Indeed. There's still plenty of good talent to draft. Since my team could muster only 3 wins last year, we can use all the talent we can find.

L.A. Playa
05-30-2006, 12:19 PM
wel lconsidering there are only 20 teams there are always alot of good players all throughout the first 4 rounds or so, in another league I am in there ar e 28 teams so after the first round or so and considering the have a sliding rookie pay scale the rookie draft is much more a crap shoot

R. Rich
05-30-2006, 12:20 PM
wel lconsidering there are only 20 teams there are always alot of good players all throughout the first 4 rounds or so, in another league I am in there ar e 28 teams so after the first round or so and considering the have a sliding rookie pay scale the rookie draft is much more a crap shoot
Size of the league definitely matters.......so does the talent pool of the draft. This year's draft has some positions where there's a good deal of talent, so it really helps us.

The King
05-30-2006, 12:24 PM
exactly. The cool thing is your drafting 2nd round talent in the 4th round. And like Rich, my winless team needs all the help we can get.

Ebenezer
05-30-2006, 12:46 PM
I am happy with Huff and Bunkley. That will fill two holes in the defense. I would really have preferred Hawk but beggers can't be choosers. Forbes got a good pick with Addai. I just didn't have the guts to take him in the top 10. Had we not pulled off the trade that would have been my selection at 18. Good job.

L.A. Playa
05-30-2006, 12:47 PM
I dont know anything about Ernie Sims I figure he wil lstart in Detroit under their new defensive minded coach so I hope he is a good player.

Anyone know anything about him ???

R. Rich
05-30-2006, 01:31 PM
I dont know anything about Ernie Sims I figure he wil lstart in Detroit under their new defensive minded coach so I hope he is a good player.

Anyone know anything about him ???
Sims is a very good choice. I was considering him for a draft in another sim league that was recently completed. Great sideline to sideline ability and they say Marinelli may turn him into Detroit's version of Derrick Brooks. Ability wise, he could fill that role. Time will tell if he actually does though.

L.A. Playa
05-30-2006, 01:55 PM
Sims is a very good choice. I was considering him for a draft in another sim league that was recently completed. Great sideline to sideline ability and they say Marinelli may turn him into Detroit's version of Derrick Brooks. Ability wise, he could fill that role. Time will tell if he actually does though.

damn if you think he is a good pick he must suck judging from your teams track record LOL JK J KJK

Forward_Lateral
05-30-2006, 01:56 PM
Sims is one concussion away from being Terry Schiavo.

R. Rich
05-30-2006, 02:04 PM
damn if you think he is a good pick he must suck judging from your teams track record LOL JK J KJK
Perhaps you're right.

L.A. Playa
05-30-2006, 02:05 PM
Sims is one concussion away from being Terry Schiavo.

oh well if he sucks i have alot of young players anyway

Forward_Lateral
05-30-2006, 02:07 PM
He's a good player, he just needs to learn to quit leading with his head, or his career will be very short.

The King
05-30-2006, 02:12 PM
Sorry FL I didnt see your trade offer until I made my pick.

Forward_Lateral
05-30-2006, 02:12 PM
Hopefully rich sees it.

Forward_Lateral
05-30-2006, 02:15 PM
:ill:

R. Rich
05-30-2006, 02:15 PM
Hopefully rich sees it.
I saw it after I had made my selection.

Forward_Lateral
05-30-2006, 02:16 PM
hopefully eb sees it BEFORE he picks.

DrForbes
05-30-2006, 02:33 PM
Ya figure some guys fall in the NFL draft might do the same in here but that is clearly not the case. I wasn't big on Jimmy Williams but Winston I was hoping would slip back a little. Nice Pick.

The King
05-30-2006, 02:37 PM
I like Williams, his bad workouts hurt him a bit. But I think in the end that is something no one will remember.

Nice to see the Minnesota Vikings finally got their pick in

L.A. Playa
05-30-2006, 02:42 PM
no pick is a bad pick if that pick fills a need

BillsFever21
05-30-2006, 02:52 PM
The Pimps continue to fix their OL. With stars all around offense but with glaring holes in needing a C, G and T we took Ferguson and Joseph on day one.

Hopefully both of these guys pan out into dominant players and fix our line for years to come. If they don't then I'm really screwed. I would still need them positions and wouldn't have anybody from day one this year.

But with stars like Steve Smith, Chad Johnson, Javon Walker, LJ Smith, Jamal Lewis and Donovan McNabb/Phillip Rivers, the Pimps needed to secure their OL to give these guys a chance to do their thing.

We have Gross and Steinbach who were both 8's but nothing but junk on the rest of the line.

The Pimps now wish they didn't waste 2 million dollars this offseason on Kwame Harris. We never dreamed Ferguson would fall to us.

We wanted Mangold instead of Joseph but at least our backup plan was still there.

Forward_Lateral
05-30-2006, 02:54 PM
Why was it your pick, Pimps?

BillsFever21
05-30-2006, 02:56 PM
Why was it your pick, Pimps?

I was slotted for 3:45-4:00

I took over team Kalamazoo. It just wasn't chaged to my team name on there.

Forward_Lateral
05-30-2006, 02:57 PM
:up: gotcha.

ryjam282
05-30-2006, 03:00 PM
Nice pick Pimps....I had him targetted the whole time...Back to the drawing board.

BillsFever21
05-30-2006, 03:00 PM
What do you guys think of the Davin Joseph pick? Any Sooner fans out there?

Forward_Lateral
05-30-2006, 03:11 PM
Hard to say when Joseph will contribute with Tampa. He's too small to play Tackle, and their guards are already pretty solid.

SABURZFAN
05-30-2006, 03:13 PM
somebody wake me up when we hit the 4th round. :z:

BillsFever21
05-30-2006, 03:28 PM
They must not like their guards that much or they wouldn't have spent a 1st round pick on him.

I would still like to pick up a guard until he's ready though.

R. Rich
05-30-2006, 04:05 PM
I like the Joseph pick. In another sim league I'm in, I traded back up into the first round to get him. I have Chris Snee as one of my starters, but a fading Edwin Mulitalo as the other, so I'm glad I can put Joseph next to my starting LT, Walter Jones, next season.

Devin
05-30-2006, 04:21 PM
I like the Joseph pick. In another sim league I'm in, I traded back up into the first round to get him. I have Chris Snee as one of my starters, but a fading Edwin Mulitalo as the other, so I'm glad I can put Joseph next to my starting LT, Walter Jones, next season.

Your future line is going to be awesome!

BillsFever21
05-30-2006, 04:44 PM
I like the Joseph pick. In another sim league I'm in, I traded back up into the first round to get him. I have Chris Snee as one of my starters, but a fading Edwin Mulitalo as the other, so I'm glad I can put Joseph next to my starting LT, Walter Jones, next season.

If my combo of Ferguson and Joseph work out I will have them on one side and Gross and Steinbach on the other. I still need a Center though. It has the possibilities of being a great line.

My goal was to fix my line in this draft and I hope they will be the answer. I have a ton of stars on offense but a few holes on the line. If they are now fixed this will be a dominant offense.

I wanted to take care of the line and then my offense will mostly be set and young everywhere. A unit I could keep around for some time. Then I can just focus on fixing the holes on my defense next year.

R. Rich
05-30-2006, 05:05 PM
Your future line is going to be awesome!

Maybe, if Joseph is what I think he is, and if Jake Grove can become the center everyone thinks he can be, and if Alex Barron continues to improve (he was pretty good as a rookie last season).

That's a lotta "if's", though.

R. Rich
05-30-2006, 05:06 PM
If my combo of Ferguson and Joseph work out I will have them on one side and Gross and Steinbach on the other. I still need a Center though. It has the possibilities of being a great line.

My goal was to fix my line in this draft and I hope they will be the answer. I have a ton of stars on offense but a few holes on the line. If they are now fixed this will be a dominant offense.

I wanted to take care of the line and then my offense will mostly be set and young everywhere. A unit I could keep around for some time. Then I can just focus on fixing the holes on my defense next year.


You have the right idea: get better up front. I started both of the sim teams I have by drafting a left tackle first: Ogden here, and Walter Jones in my other league. That tells you how important I think the lines are.

R. Rich
05-30-2006, 05:11 PM
Ally's going to miss her pick. If she had to go to work or something, I hope she gave someone a list to use.

BillsFever21
05-30-2006, 05:11 PM
You have the right idea: get better up front. I started both of the sim teams I have by drafting a left tackle first: Ogden here, and Walter Jones in my other league. That tells you how important I think the lines are.

I didn't really have a choice though,lol

Gross and Steinbach are blue chips at 8's

After that I had nobody. My Center and other guard are old and 5.5's.

Clifton who I drafted just for this year is old and a 6.5. I drafted Kwame Harris(5) at 2m in hopes that he would pan out in San Fran. because I never expected Ferguson to be around when I drafted. He may pan out but I couldn't pass up Ferguson.

Good OL don't come around often. People just don't get rid of them. I knew I would have to do it through the draft. And with the amount my other players are making I couldn't afford a big salary for them. I was happy to get both of these guys.

R. Rich
05-30-2006, 05:22 PM
You did great by getting them. I was glad to get Justice in the 2nd round, after having to pass on the guy I wanted almost for an entire year in Ferguson. In the end, I couldn't pass up the chance to not only get a talent like Super Mario, but to upgrade my defensive line, which isn't as deep as my offensive line.

BillsFever21
05-30-2006, 05:24 PM
You did great by getting them. I was glad to get Justice in the 2nd round, after having to pass on the guy I wanted almost for an entire year in Ferguson. In the end, I couldn't pass up the chance to not only get a talent like Super Mario, but to upgrade my defensive line, which isn't as deep as my offensive line.

Your OL is set. You didn't need one.

R. Rich
05-30-2006, 05:30 PM
Your OL is set. You didn't need one.

Not set, but getting there. I'd be happier if Matt Birk wasn't in IR this year, so that I'd have an 8 in the middle instead of a 5.5, but oh well.

tampabay25690
05-30-2006, 10:55 PM
Tampa loves his 1st days selections. Mainly dealing with the Defensive side of the Ball we also took the #1 TE in the draft in VERNON DAVIS........To rap up the day we got---AJ HAWK-------JASON ALLEN S/CB-------and TAMBA HALI-----Overall we are happy with our draft in the 1st day...

R. Rich
05-31-2006, 07:38 AM
I'm okay w/ mine for now. I needed to get better along both the offensive and defensive lines, and I think I've done a decent job of that, getting Super Mario for my DL while getting Winston Justice and now Max Jean-Gilles for my offensive line. Plus, I was able to get a deep threat @ WR in Chad Jackson and a pretty good prospect @ corner in Antonio Cromartie.

The King
05-31-2006, 07:41 AM
I am so/so with my picks. I got my guy in Nick Mangold, Got the CB I wanted in Jimmy Williams. But I thought a few guys would be around that were not in the 3rd. So D'Qwell Jackson was kind of settling for me, hopefully I can make up for it in the 4th.

ryjam282
05-31-2006, 07:42 AM
and if Jake Grove can become the center everyone thinks he can be,


I am sure hoping so, that is the only reason I held on to him.

Ebenezer
05-31-2006, 07:46 AM
I like my draft so far...solid prospects.

Huff, Bunkley and Williams...all could be starters for years.

R. Rich
05-31-2006, 07:55 AM
I am so/so with my picks. I got my guy in Nick Mangold, Got the CB I wanted in Jimmy Williams. But I thought a few guys would be around that were not in the 3rd. So D'Qwell Jackson was kind of settling for me, hopefully I can make up for it in the 4th.
Nothing wrong w/ Jackson. He is who I probably would've taken if you hadn't.

R. Rich
05-31-2006, 07:57 AM
I am sure hoping so, that is the only reason I held on to him.
Yeah. If only I was able to get him in the BZFL, too. I could use a young guy to eventually replace Matt Birk. Stepanovich is okay as a stopgap measure, but I think I might be able to upgrade a bit next offseason.

ryjam282
05-31-2006, 07:59 AM
I am really hoping he can be my future at the position but his injuries the last 2 years concern me. When he is on the field he is a good one.

The King
05-31-2006, 08:00 AM
Yeah. If only I was able to get him in the BZFL, too. I could use a young guy to eventually replace Matt Birk. Stepanovich is okay as a stopgap measure, but I think I might be able to upgrade a bit next offseason.

Ill give you Jeff Faine for a bag of cool ranch doritos.

ryjam282
05-31-2006, 08:04 AM
Anyone looking to move out of the 3rd round? PM me.

madness
05-31-2006, 08:54 AM
getting Super Mario for my DL

I heard Mario would rather join his teammates and play for Easton. :couch:

R. Rich
05-31-2006, 09:02 AM
I heard Mario would rather join his teammates and play for Easton. :couch:
Lawson was a nice pick, especially late in round 2. In my other sim league, I took him 13th overall. He'll make a nice bookend in my 3-4 defense on the opposite side of Shawne "Lights Out" Merriman.

Forward_Lateral
05-31-2006, 09:03 AM
I got the 2 players I've been targetting for the 2nd and 3rd rounds, so I'm pretty happy thus far.

ryjam282
05-31-2006, 09:11 AM
Nice pick with McNeil, he was my target in this round...DAMMIT.

SABURZFAN
05-31-2006, 09:17 AM
i'm still waiting to make my first pick. :tap:



thanks a lot Spaz. :mad:

BillsFever21
05-31-2006, 09:24 AM
Lawson was a nice pick, especially late in round 2. In my other sim league, I took him 13th overall. He'll make a nice bookend in my 3-4 defense on the opposite side of Shawne "Lights Out" Merriman.

That's who I thought about trading up for with you. I'm just not sold on him. He has to learn a new position and he's one of them tweeners.

He might turn into a good player but it won't be anytime soon. I think he'll be nothing more then a pass rusher at the next level. Considering I had the chance to get him I hope I'm right,lol

I'm happy with Kiwankua. He will also take a couple years but the Giants have been breeding great DE's since Coughlin arrived. And god knows I need them too. They are a lot harder to find then LB's.

R. Rich
05-31-2006, 09:24 AM
i'm still waiting to make my first pick. :tap:



thanks a lot Spaz. :mad:
Well.........you do have Mark Clayton.

BillsFever21
05-31-2006, 09:26 AM
I know what you mean by draft picks, Saburz. The guy who had this team last was MIA for like the first 4 rounds. Just missed all of his picks. Missed out on some great players. No wonder he bailed out.

This team doesn't have any cheap good talent because of that. Oh well, time to rebuild it.

R. Rich
05-31-2006, 09:29 AM
That's who I thought about trading up for with you. I'm just not sold on him. He has to learn a new position and he's one of them tweeners.

He might turn into a good player but it won't be anytime soon. I think he'll be nothing more then a pass rusher at the next level. Considering I had the chance to get him I hope I'm right,lol

I'm happy with Kiwankua. He will also take a couple years but the Giants have been breeding great DE's since Coughlin arrived. And god knows I need them too. They are a lot harder to find then LB's.
I'm not too sure about that. I believe Lawson has more than enough athletic ability to become a very good OLB in a 3-4. As someone who played LOLB in a 3-4 waaaaaay back in the day, I know what it takes to play the position. Like Lawson, I switched from DE also, and I'm quite sure he's 10 times the athlete I ever was. I don't think he'll come out the gate dominating, but I wouldn't consider him just a situational player, either. Teams like Pittsburgh have done quite well stocking their roster w/ "tweeners" and putting them @ LB. Of course, w/ more teams adopting the 3-4, it's getting tougher to find them. Before the 3-4 became all the rage, you wouldn't have seen guys like Ware and Merriman go so high like they did last year. They would've been typical Steeler draft picks, probably 3rd or 4th round.

madness
05-31-2006, 09:37 AM
I'm not too sure about that. I believe Lawson has more than enough athletic ability to become a very good OLB in a 3-4. As someone who played LOLB in a 3-4 waaaaaay back in the day, I know what it takes to play the position. Like Lawson, I switched from DE also, and I'm quite sure he's 10 times the athlete I ever was. I don't think he'll come out the gate dominating, but I wouldn't consider him just a situational player, either. Teams like Pittsburgh have done quite well stocking their roster w/ "tweeners" and putting them @ LB. Of course, w/ more teams adopting the 3-4, it's getting tougher to find them. Before the 3-4 became all the rage, you wouldn't have seen guys like Ware and Merriman go so high like they did last year. They would've been typical Steeler draft picks, probably 3rd or 4th round.

Plus this guy is intelligent as they come and an incredible physical speciman. The question should be 'How can he not make the transition?' This guy is a beast. :flex:


Lawson probably has this figured out by now -- he scored a remarkable 43 on the Wonderlic test that measures a person's intelligence. But it was not just Lawson's Wonderlic that stood out. So do some of his other numbers:
Lawson is 6-foot-6, 249 pounds. He runs the 40 in 4.41 seconds. He bench pressed 225 pounds 25 times. He vertical jumped 39 ½ inches. He long jumped 10.6 feet. Lawson is an engineering major, captain of his football team, ran track at North Carolina State and never has been injured.

SABURZFAN
05-31-2006, 09:40 AM
Well.........you do have Mark Clayton.


yeah.....and?

L.A. Playa
05-31-2006, 09:41 AM
Plus this guy is intelligent as they come and an incredible physical speciman. The question should be 'How can he not make the transition?' This guy is a beast. :flex:

Mike Mamuela made the transition

R. Rich
05-31-2006, 09:58 AM
Mike Mamuela made the transition
...as did DeMarcus Ware and Shawne Merriman.

R. Rich
05-31-2006, 10:39 AM
Mikey, you'd better make those damn picks before I strangle you.

L.A. Playa
05-31-2006, 10:44 AM
Mikey is working on his long drawn out explanations of his picks

The King
05-31-2006, 10:48 AM
Anyonw want to trade out of this round for the 1st in the 4th and 5th?

R. Rich
05-31-2006, 10:50 AM
Anyonw want to trade out of this round for the 1st in the 4th and 5th?
I'll ask if anyonw does.

The King
05-31-2006, 10:56 AM
I'll ask if anyonw does.

nice...

Michael82
05-31-2006, 10:59 AM
Mikey is working on his long drawn out explanations of his picks
No, Mikey was sleeping at the time. That's why he missed the first pick. :snooze:

L.A. Playa
05-31-2006, 11:04 AM
I may know someone MBB

madness
05-31-2006, 11:56 AM
I may know someone MBB

:mad: stupid trade messed up my draft board.

R. Rich
05-31-2006, 11:59 AM
Good pick, Michael. Jennings should do well in Green Bay, if they find someone to throw the ball to the right team, that is.

The King
05-31-2006, 12:09 PM
Good pick, Michael. Jennings should do well in Green Bay, if they find someone to throw the ball to the right team, that is.

I thought it was a move I needed to make. Especially with Glenn being 31 and Ty Calico quesionable.

R. Rich
05-31-2006, 12:12 PM
You have Calico? Oh man. He was a straight up bust for me last season. I hope he fares better for your team.

The King
05-31-2006, 12:16 PM
You have Calico? Oh man. He was a straight up bust for me last season. I hope he fares better for your team.

I picked him up for a mill. see what he can do.

DrForbes
05-31-2006, 02:08 PM
I've heard good things about Mr. Tarvaris. With a good coaching staff you may like that pick.

R. Rich
05-31-2006, 02:09 PM
Yeah, that was a good pick, Patrick.

L.A. Playa
05-31-2006, 02:10 PM
I think he was highest drafted player left, I dont know anything about college guys so my draft will suck

utmhead
05-31-2006, 02:37 PM
excuse me cause I am new at this, but what happends to the undrafted rookies?
is it first come first serve or what?

L.A. Playa
05-31-2006, 02:41 PM
excuse me cause I am new at this, but what happends to the undrafted rookies?
is it first come first serve or what?

they go into the FA draft for next years FA draft, they cant be signed during the season if you have an injury they just stay in limbo

Michael82
05-31-2006, 02:43 PM
excuse me cause I am new at this, but what happends to the undrafted rookies?
is it first come first serve or what?
nope. they are unavailable until after the season, i think. :idunno:

utmhead
05-31-2006, 02:54 PM
thanks

L.A. Playa
05-31-2006, 04:39 PM
did all the co-commissioners abandon the league ???

L.A. Playa
05-31-2006, 04:39 PM
or is it just that no one gives a **** anymore ??

Sportsuser101
05-31-2006, 04:49 PM
I'm drafting what got me here.. defense. Wimbley, Bullocks and now Marshall. I think I did pretty well for picking 20th each round although I know alot of teams liked their draft.

L.A. Playa
05-31-2006, 04:50 PM
you always do well thats why you won it all last year and are the favorite this year, my draft sucks so far

Sportsuser101
05-31-2006, 04:52 PM
Lawson was a nice pick, especially late in round 2. In my other sim league, I took him 13th overall. He'll make a nice bookend in my 3-4 defense on the opposite side of Shawne "Lights Out" Merriman.

Yeah I've got Porter and Ware for now at the OLB in the 34 and for the future I've got Wimbley and Ware. In the end I think Ware will be a better player then Merriman but both are top talents.

Sportsuser101
05-31-2006, 04:56 PM
you always do well thats why you won it all last year and are the favorite this year, my draft sucks so far

Not sure if that's sarcasm or not but I'll take the compliment even if it is a backhanded 1.

I like the Sims pick alot. Think he could be a Derrick Brooks type player if he continues to progress. Jackson is a risky pick but its the 4th round so you really can't nitpick. He was the best QB available at the time and should get a shot at winning the job sooner then most of the top QBs.

L.A. Playa
05-31-2006, 04:57 PM
wasnt sarcasm towards your team, you are the team to beat until someone knocks you on your ass

Sportsuser101
05-31-2006, 04:58 PM
wasnt sarcasm towards your team, you are the team to beat until someone knocks you on your ass

Oh ok, thanks.

R. Rich
05-31-2006, 05:09 PM
did all the co-commissioners abandon the league ???

Nope. I've been here all day, w/ the exception of the time I just took to drive home from work.

L.A. Playa
05-31-2006, 05:10 PM
im just messing around

R. Rich
05-31-2006, 05:11 PM
Are we through w/ the complaints?

L.A. Playa
05-31-2006, 05:12 PM
no we are not

R. Rich
05-31-2006, 05:15 PM
Whoops! Let me fix that for you there, Playa:


We are through w/ the complaints. Now.

L.A. Playa
05-31-2006, 05:16 PM
you suck

Devin
05-31-2006, 06:58 PM
Well like a bonehead I picked Demeco over Lawson because I was at work and thought Lawson was gone. But thus far I have guys I hope will be contributors sooner rather then later.

R. Rich
06-01-2006, 07:15 AM
Well like a bonehead I picked Demeco over Lawson because I was at work and thought Lawson was gone. But thus far I have guys I hope will be contributors sooner rather then later.
You wanted Lawson over Ryans?

R. Rich
06-01-2006, 11:48 AM
Playas are active w/ the trades today. Nice.

Forward_Lateral
06-01-2006, 11:52 AM
I can't believe Wright was still around.

DrForbes
06-01-2006, 11:53 AM
Playas are active w/ the trades today. Nice.

I liked the player F-L moved up to get. I think it was worth it.

Forward_Lateral
06-01-2006, 11:55 AM
I liked the player F-L moved up to get. I think it was worth it.

:up: Thanks. I wasn't going to be around for my 2nd 6th round pick, so I figured trading it was a smart move.

L.A. Playa
06-01-2006, 12:11 PM
this years draft has been rather dull not as much chatter and activity as there was last year

R. Rich
06-01-2006, 12:27 PM
this years draft has been rather dull not as much chatter and activity as there was last year
Yeah. I think people were more excited since it was new and we didn't know what to expect.

R. Rich
06-01-2006, 12:27 PM
I see you decided to draft a USC guy. I would've have figured you to do that.

L.A. Playa
06-01-2006, 12:30 PM
was gonna take him in the 4th rd but decided to go another way figured in the 5th its worth a shot

R. Rich
06-01-2006, 01:14 PM
If O Canada makes his pick, we can begin the 6th round. He's the only one who hasn't made a 5th round selection.

Sportsuser101
06-01-2006, 01:54 PM
Wow I got the #1 guy on my list. Thought he would be gone. I really like Wilkinson and tried trading into the early 5th to get him and worked out where I didn't have to. Thanks R Rich for making the pick for me.

R. Rich
06-01-2006, 01:57 PM
Wow I got the #1 guy on my list. Thought he would be gone. I really like Wilkinson and tried trading into the early 5th to get him and worked out where I didn't have to. Thanks R Rich for making the pick for me.
No problem.

I took him in the draft we had in another sim league I'm in. I think he's got the potential to be a very good NFL 'backer.

L.A. Playa
06-01-2006, 02:18 PM
nice pick Rich especially this late

R. Rich
06-01-2006, 02:23 PM
Yeah. I was hoping AZ would be available after I took Stovall w/ my 5th round pick.

Plus, it gets that nasty taste out of my mouth after having drafted someone from "that school". What better way to follow it up than by taking someone from the team I root for?

The King
06-01-2006, 02:27 PM
I had an eventful day

L.A. Playa
06-01-2006, 02:56 PM
what was so eventful

DrForbes
06-01-2006, 04:52 PM
No problem.

I took him in the draft we had in another sim league I'm in. I think he's got the potential to be a very good NFL 'backer.

I hope so being a Gints fan

Devin
06-02-2006, 02:22 PM
Our first offseason is almost done!

madness
06-02-2006, 02:34 PM
Anybody willing to trade down in this round out of the kindness of their heart? :D

Devin
06-02-2006, 02:53 PM
Anybody willing to trade down in this round out of the kindness of their heart? :D

LOL.

madness
06-02-2006, 03:06 PM
LOL. It was worth a try. :snicker: