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LouGrant
02-14-2003, 08:47 PM
<img src="http://www.billszone.com/images/artwander/eb.JPG " border="2" align="left"><BR>The calender says it is Daytona 500 season, but with the rain in Florida, one little lady has stolen the sports spotlight. Annika Sorenstam has accepted the sponsor's invitation to play in the Colonial later this year. She'll be the first lady duffer to play with the boys since Babe Zaharias did it almost 58 years ago. Now. Does anybody actually expect her to win? Of course not. That isn't what it is about. Many see it as equal opportunity. I see it as equality. ...MORE... (http://www.billszone.com/YourSite/global/templates/view.php?action=YourSite_content&month=2&state=news&nid=4080)

Ebenezer
02-15-2003, 07:43 AM
I would really appreciate some comments and an open discussion about this one...and before anybody starts, please note that nowhere in the article did I say that Title IX is a bad thing or that it should be gotten rid of.

Dozerdog
02-15-2003, 09:34 AM
i really don'tthink this is a big deal anymore.



Women have broken into Nascar Racing, the Indy 500, Mannon Rehume and "what's her face" Wickenheiser into Hockey, we have had a girl Globetrotter- hecl even this sort half a century before.


I'ts passe-

Tatonka
02-15-2003, 12:11 PM
rehume was hot :cp:

DraftBoy
02-15-2003, 08:02 PM
Ill say it Title XI is a joke and should be done away with, I agree something for equality needs to be done, but cancelling sports is not the answer!

Brian H
02-15-2003, 08:40 PM
Does she play tennis?

TigerJ
02-15-2003, 09:09 PM
I'm not a huge golf fan. I'm not bothered by the fact that she's playing. I think she ought to tee off from the men's spot though. I don't think she stands a chance in any case. Maybe she'll make the cut. I think she'll probably enter a few events and then quietly fade away, back to the women's tour.

Ingtar33
02-16-2003, 02:47 AM
Ignoring title IX...

Annika Sorenstam is a golf quality unlike any seen since tiger woods... the problem is she is a girl... and while I'm a liberated type of guy, I'll never forget my experience playing the girls varsity soccer team... this team was good, they would win their division latter in the year... (I played both soccer and football in the fall, hockey in the winter and lacrosse in the spring…), when I was in 9th grade and on the JV squad... we killed them. I played D, it was my first year ever playing soccer, and I remember watching the girls play for my HS (because they were so good), and I was shocked at how simple it was to defend them, to beat them.

Girls can play many sports better than me. Sorenstam plays golf better than I ever will... yet even she will only be good enough to finish in the top 20 of the pro golf tournament, as men are made for physical accomplishment.

Cntrygal
02-16-2003, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by Ingtar33
as men are made for physical accomplishment.

Does this mean I can tell my commander that I don't need to do as many pushups as the guys at PT (real pushups/not "girly" ones)? I really hate pushups.


:D

ArcticWildMan
02-16-2003, 11:21 AM
Drop and give me 20!! :D

Cntrygal
02-16-2003, 11:26 AM
:tongue:

Š
02-16-2003, 12:21 PM
Golf as a spectator sport ....snoooooooorrrreeee

Ingtar33
02-16-2003, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by Cntrygal


Does this mean I can tell my commander that I don't need to do as many pushups as the guys at PT (real pushups/not &quot;girly&quot; ones)? I really hate pushups.


:D

I really hated PT too…

Hey... don't forget I was in the Marines (briefly), and the toughest sergeant I ever came across was a female "guns"... She was the most intimidating soldier I ever came across, and I wouldn't have had a problem going into battle with her at my back.

That being said, what I'm talking about is top athletic achievement, and while a lot of women can hit the top 20% of guy achievement, it is nearly impossible for them to break into the top 1%...

Brian H
02-16-2003, 01:10 PM
Playing golf its not like shes gonna get hurt so I have no problem with it....

ArcticWildMan
02-16-2003, 01:22 PM
I have no problem with women competing with guys. What I detest is that they can prohibit men from playing in their sports (the LPGA prohibits any men). That's a double standard that is BS.

Brian H
02-16-2003, 01:29 PM
Would you golf in the LPGA AWM?

ArcticWildMan
02-16-2003, 01:32 PM
If I stood a chance of making money, HELL YES!!!! :D

Brian H
02-16-2003, 01:46 PM
Are there any hot women there?

ArcticWildMan
02-16-2003, 01:47 PM
LOL!! Couldn't tell you. I don't watch the LPGA.

Brian H
02-16-2003, 01:50 PM
I'll do some research on that and get back to you.......

Brian H
02-16-2003, 02:03 PM
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Ebenezer
02-16-2003, 02:20 PM
isn't it amazing that the three biggest names in women sports right now did not benefit from Title IX...Serena and Venus Williams and Annika Soranstam...

Dozerdog
02-16-2003, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by ArcticWildMan
I have no problem with women competing with guys. What I detest is that they can prohibit men from playing in their sports (the LPGA prohibits any men). That's a double standard that is BS.

I'm sorry- but that's one of the dumber statements -

So- shall we see you at the next special olympics?

Brian H
02-16-2003, 03:51 PM
Ouch

Š
02-16-2003, 04:07 PM
Title IX is cool.

Canadian women hockey players have been milking it for full ride scholarships for years, because the talent is so thin in the US. If my daughter stays playing hockey to the Midget AAA level (top level 16-17 yr olds) as it stands now she would be guaranteed about 10 full-ride NCAA offers, and we're not talking Buff State here...Harvard, Michigan, Dartmouth, Princeton, Cornell, Ohio State are just a few of the schools competitive in NCCA women's hockey that fill their rosters with Canadian women.

BillC
02-16-2003, 04:10 PM
Damn NAFTA


North American Female Trade Agreement

Š
02-16-2003, 04:19 PM
NAFTA :lol:

Hell, my daughter has good bloodlines, so she stands as good a chance as any to get a hockey or basketballl scholarship.

My cousin, Lee Ann Bies is the starting center (voted to the 2002-03 Big Ten Preseason All-Conference Team) for the Michigan Lady Wolverines women's basketball team...she's 6' 3" :eek:

http://www.mgoblue.com/bio.cfm?bio_id=417&section_id=238&top=2&level=3&season=31

Ebenezer
02-16-2003, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by Š
Title IX is cool.

Canadian women hockey players have been milking it for full ride scholarships for years, because the talent is so thin in the US. If my daughter stays playing hockey to the Midget AAA level (top level 16-17 yr olds) as it stands now she would be guaranteed about 10 full-ride NCAA offers, and we're not talking Buff State here...Harvard, Michigan, Dartmouth, Princeton, Cornell, Ohio State are just a few of the schools competitive in NCCA women's hockey that fill their rosters with Canadian women.


hey, like I said in the article...I would love to see my daughter work her way up in this world and a hockey scholarship would be perfect.

ArcticWildMan
02-20-2003, 10:44 AM
Originally posted by Dozerdog


I'm sorry- but that's one of the dumber statements -

So- shall we see you at the next special olympics?



You bet. I'll be your coach ;)

Earthquake Enyart
02-20-2003, 10:46 AM
I hope Annika wins. Then she qualifies for the Masters. :D

Ebenezer
02-20-2003, 12:42 PM
Boy would that freak out Hootie!!

pmoon6
02-20-2003, 01:34 PM
I don't think Hootie would care at all.Augusta national was considering women applicants until NOW came in and tried to force the issue. Hootie just told NOW he wouldn't have a gun held to his head.