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...our hopes are riding on a 3rd year unproven youngster beating out a talentless 11 year career backup. Because if KH wins out, we're going nowhere again this year and we will need to start all over again at QB next year.
...our hopes are riding on a 3rd year unproven youngster beating out a talentless 11 year career backup. Because if KH wins out, we're going nowhere again this year and we will need to start all over again at QB next year.
Not a particularly inspiring situation.
as has been said before, if all else fails, brady quinn here we come
...our hopes are riding on a 3rd year unproven youngster beating out a talentless 11 year career backup. Because if KH wins out, we're going nowhere again this year and we will need to start all over again at QB next year.
Not a particularly inspiring situation.
What makes you think starting JP will produce any different results?
YardRat Wall of Fame #56 DARRYL TALLEY #29 DERRICK BURROUGHS#22 FRED JACKSON #95 KYLE WILLIAMS
Gawd would the "beat out in camp" argument please die? Rob Johnson was the best 'camp' performer QB lots of scouts ever saw, but if it doesn't translate to the field, it's useless!
If camp means everything, why didn't Tom Brady beat out Bledsoe for the starting gig?
There is no guarantee with JP, but he has one thing Holcomb is proven to NOT have; U-P-S-I-D-E. Might as well see if it can be taken advantage of or not, or if the Bills need to look elsewhere. Holcomb is no part of that equation.
...our hopes are riding on a 3rd year unproven youngster beating out a talentless 11 year career backup. Because if KH wins out, we're going nowhere again this year and we will need to start all over again at QB next year.
Gawd would the "beat out in camp" argument please die? Rob Johnson was the best 'camp' performer QB lots of scouts ever saw, but if it doesn't translate to the field, it's useless!
If camp means everything, why didn't Tom Brady beat out Bledsoe for the starting gig?
There is no guarantee with JP, but he has one thing Holcomb is proven to NOT have; U-P-S-I-D-E. Might as well see if it can be taken advantage of or not, or if the Bills need to look elsewhere. Holcomb is no part of that equation.
I wish the 'we need to start JP because he has 'potential'' argument would go away. Put the best players on the field, period.
Youboty and Simpson have 'potential', also. So does Nance. They all have U-P-S-I-D-E, let's insert them into the starting line-up too.
Put potential in one hand, and **** in the other, and see which one fills up first.
YardRat Wall of Fame #56 DARRYL TALLEY #29 DERRICK BURROUGHS#22 FRED JACKSON #95 KYLE WILLIAMS
I wish the 'we need to start JP because he has 'potential'' argument would go away. Put the best players on the field, period.
Youboty and Simpson have 'potential', also. So does Nance. They all have U-P-S-I-D-E, let's insert them into the starting line-up too.
Put potential in one hand, and **** in the other, and see which one fills up first.
The only thing that keeps me from agreeing with you is the fact that no matter what anyone says, IMO JP has....POTENTIAL....to be a better player than Holcomb. Its obvious they are close since there is no obvious choice, at least for the coaches. JP has more of the tools needed, i think, but he just doesnt know how to use them yet. Its up to the coaches and JP himself to learn to use them, or I will also end up rooting for Kelly to start.
Why can't a back-up QB see playing time, depending on the game situation?
Sure...if you plan on being blown out early in every game. Switching up QBs in the middle of the game for a series or two would hurt our ability to win games now...which is the argument that the Holcomb supporters are using...they wanna win a few more games now ...never mind that it could slow our progress in the future
I'm in the minority on this; but I'm not throwing in the towel with Holcomb as the starter..
If you think KH can lead this team to a winning season I don't know what games you've been watching over the last 11 years.
Originally posted by patmoran2006
I'm so SICK of hearing about JP's young and a first rounder and blahblahblah.. If he CAN'T beat out Holcomb at camp he doesnt DESERVE to start.
I agree - and that's my point. If JP can't beat out a talentless 11 year career backup then he doesn't deserve to start. But that also means we are going into the season with a talentless 11 year backup, and that means a sub 500 season and another rebuild at QB next year.
So that's why I said our hopes ride on JP, because if he busts, we are back to square 1. KH is not, nor will he ever be, a successful full time starter.
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