Serious question for the JP fan club.

[Patrick76777]

Say he wins the job. Then over the first 5 weeks he proceeds to post similar results to last year. We start 0-5 he’s completing under 50% of his passes, averaging about 100 yards a game, and averaging 1 INT a game. Over these 5 games we go 0-5 and the offense looks terrible.

Would you be ready to pull the plug at this point or do you want him to play all 16 games?


And you don’t have to be a jerk in your response. I’m seriously wondering how long you guys want him out there if these are his numbers.

[Philagape]

Re: Serious question for the JP fan club.

The first five games is the toughest part of the schedule, with road games in NE, Miami and Chicago, so I wouldn't judge anyone until at least the bye week. But if we're out of the running, what's to lose by giving JP the rest of the season? The ONLY reason to start Holcomb is if the Bills are winning, so if we're 0-5, that reason disappears.

[justasportsfan]

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Nah, give him the entire season. I was all for yanking him last year when we still had a chance to make playoffs. If he isn't our future we know one thing for sure ,Holcomb isn't either.

Knowing that we're not headed anywhere this year, I'm all for the team putting him in a Eli Manning type of situation in his first year. He can take his lumps together with the rest of the younguns and grow together as a team. Just like Kelly and co.

[ICE74129]

Re: Serious question for the JP fan club.

Say he wins the job. Then over the first 5 weeks he proceeds to post similar results to last year. We start 0-5 he’s completing under 50% of his passes, averaging about 100 yards a game, and averaging 1 INT a game. Over these 5 games we go 0-5 and the offense looks terrible.

Would you be ready to pull the plug at this point or do you want him to play all 16 games?


And you don’t have to be a jerk in your response. I’m seriously wondering how long you guys want him out there if these are his numbers.

he plays all 16 games. Harrington, Boller etc all got YEARS at the helm. Any QB that has been a success has had a full uninterupted season to at least see what he can and or can't be.

JP gets all 16 period.

[ICE74129]

Re: Serious question for the JP fan club.

The first five games is the toughest part of the schedule, with road games in NE, Miami and Chicago, so I wouldn't judge anyone until at least the bye week. But if we're out of the running, what's to lose by giving JP the rest of the season? The ONLY reason to start Holcomb is if the Bills are winning, so if we're 0-5, that reason disappears.

It doesn't matter, in the running or not. The kid gets 16 with no threat of being pulled. If we did that LAST year...I dont' feel there would have been any question JP would be our starter at this point.

ALL QB's must have that comfort zone that they can have bad games (even bad seasons) and not get benched.

[Philagape]

Re: Serious question for the JP fan club.

It doesn't matter, in the running or not. The kid gets 16 with no threat of being pulled. If we did that LAST year...I dont' feel there would have been any question JP would be our starter at this point.

ALL QB's must have that comfort zone that they can have bad games (even bad seasons) and not get benched.

I agree ... I was just turning the Holcombites' reason against them

[Earthquake Enyart]

Re: Serious question for the JP fan club.

Say he wins the job. Then over the first 5 weeks he proceeds to post similar results to last year. We start 0-5 he’s completing under 50% of his passes, averaging about 100 yards a game, and averaging 1 INT a game. Over these 5 games we go 0-5 and the offense looks terrible.

Would you be ready to pull the plug at this point or do you want him to play all 16 games?


And you don’t have to be a jerk in your response. I’m seriously wondering how long you guys want him out there if these are his numbers.

I'll tell you right now that Dick won't play JP just for the sake of playing him. If he isn't doing the job, out he'll come.

One of the reasons Dick got fired in Chicago was his stubborness not to play #1 draft pick Cade McNown.

[Don't Panic]

Re: Serious question for the JP fan club.

Say he wins the job. Then over the first 5 weeks he proceeds to post similar results to last year. We start 0-5 he’s completing under 50% of his passes, averaging about 100 yards a game, and averaging 1 INT a game. Over these 5 games we go 0-5 and the offense looks terrible.

Let's just pray this doesn't happen, or this place is going to be intolerable!

[ICE74129]

Re: Serious question for the JP fan club.

I agree ... I was just turning the Holcombites' reason against them

[EricStratton]

Re: Serious question for the JP fan club.

One of the reasons Dick got fired in Chicago was his stubborness not to play #1 draft pick Cade McNown.

That turned out to be the right decision.

[BillsFever21]

Re: Serious question for the JP fan club.

It doesn't matter, in the running or not. The kid gets 16 with no threat of being pulled. If we did that LAST year...I dont' feel there would have been any question JP would be our starter at this point.

ALL QB's must have that comfort zone that they can have bad games (even bad seasons) and not get benched.

Mularkey stalled this process by a year. JP would've already taken his lumps. By midway through this season we would know what we had in JP had he not been jerked around last season.

But you have unrealistic homers who thought by benching JP that Holcomb was gonna lead us to the playoffs. That didn't happen and the only thing it got us was losing 4 out of the last 5 games he started when JP could've been developing them games. We were losing anyway but wasn't benefiting any towards the future of this team.

Now this year we're stuck with the same question marks when them could've already been mostly answered. Had JP had the entire year last year by the midpoint in this season and definitely towards the end of this season all the questions surrounding JP would've been answered. He either would've been the QB of the future or he would've needed replaced.

Mularkey set this team back a year by the crap he pulled last season. What's also sad is there were a fair amount of unrealistic fans who agreed with it and thought Holcomb was gonna win them other 5 games and give us a shot at the playoffs. That turned out to be a dud and here we are from scratch still.

What's even still sad is some of them same people actually think that Holcomb can lead us to the playoffs this season. He had the opportunity last year but proceeded to lose 4 out of the last 5 games he started when we needed the wins to stay in it.

[ICE74129]

Re: Serious question for the JP fan club.

Mularkey stalled this process by a year. JP would've already taken his lumps. By midway through this season we would know what we had in JP had he not been jerked around last season.

But you have unrealistic homers who thought by benching JP that Holcomb was gonna lead us to the playoffs. That didn't happen and the only thing it got us was losing 4 out of the last 5 games he started when JP could've been developing them games. We were losing anyway but wasn't benefiting any towards the future of this team.

Now this year we're stuck with the same question marks when them could've already been mostly answered. Had JP had the entire year last year by the midpoint in this season and definitely towards the end of this season all the questions surrounding JP would've been answered. He either would've been the QB of the future or he would've needed replaced.

Mularkey set this team back a year by the crap he pulled last season. What's also sad is there were a fair amount of unrealistic fans who agreed with it and thought Holcomb was gonna win them other 5 games and give us a shot at the playoffs. That turned out to be a dud and here we are from scratch still.

What's even still sad is some of them same people actually think that Holcomb can lead us to the playoffs this season. He had the opportunity last year but proceeded to lose 4 out of the last 5 games he started when we needed the wins to stay in it.

Agreed. We also had 'win now' clowns on the team its self. Funny, they got the QB they wanted and still didn't 'win now'

[TacklingDummy]

Re: Serious question for the JP fan club.

Screw the other 52 players on the team, it's all about Losman.

[Earthquake Enyart]

Re: Serious question for the JP fan club.

That turned out to be the right decision.

Indeed!

[Jan Reimers]

Re: Serious question for the JP fan club.

Play JP 16 straight games, regardless. Let's see if he's the answer. We know Holcomb isn't.