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  • Stewie
    Sarah Palin for President... of my pants!
    • Aug 2002
    • 11567

    What would happen

    If The Bills traded the Dolphins Jim Kelly for Dan Marino straight up after the first two super bowl losses.

    Would Dan finally be able to beat Jim in the playoffs? Could he win the superbowl with the Bills?

    Or would Kelly still win in the playoffs with some good receivers and the k-gun.
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  • Jan Reimers
    Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
    • May 2003
    • 17353

    #2
    Re: What would happen

    Marino couldn't throw at all in the windy, icy late season conditions at the Ralph. He would have been a disaster in Buffalo.
    Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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    • Mudflap1
      Next Question!
      • Nov 2004
      • 3281

      #3
      Re: What would happen

      We didn't lose any Super Bowls because of Jim Kelly. The whole team got beat in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th ones. The first one, as we all know, was a tossup.

      Jon

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      • G. Host
        Banned
        • Jul 2002
        • 10298

        #4
        Re: What would happen

        Originally posted by paulB
        If The Bills traded the Dolphins Jim Kelly for Dan Marino straight up after the first two super bowl losses.

        Would Dan finally be able to beat Jim in the playoffs? Could he win the superbowl with the Bills?

        Or would Kelly still win in the playoffs with some good receivers and the k-gun.
        Thurman would not have lasted the season with Marino.
        Marino and fake RB handoffs did not go well together.

        Bills would not have made the playoffs.

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        • ParanoidAndroid
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          • Apr 2004
          • 16847

          #5
          Re: What would happen

          Originally posted by paulB
          If The Bills traded the Dolphins Jim Kelly for Dan Marino straight up after the first two super bowl losses.

          Would Dan finally be able to beat Jim in the playoffs? Could he win the superbowl with the Bills?

          Or would Kelly still win in the playoffs with some good receivers and the k-gun.
          In this scenario, Marino would have to learn the k-gun (named after TE Keith McKellar) and Kelly would have to learn whatever system Miami had in place then.
          Marino was better at taking care of the ball and getting it out of his hands in tough pursuit, that is until he came to Buffalo in December or January. Marino broke records because he never had a run game and carried the offense, and extremely well I should add. I think there were many other QB's that could have done that including Kelly, Elway, Favre, Young, etc. Marino would not be the extra inch we needed to clear that final hurdle.

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          • chernobylwraiths
            Registered User
            • Jan 2003
            • 41838

            #6
            Re: What would happen

            Marino didn't use the run game enough. The Bills were good because of the combination of run and pass.

            IMO, what killed us the most in those superbowls was the lack of a tough run defense. We needed a better push in the middle. Smerlas would have been good for that defense. Too bad he wanted too much and Marv and he didn't see eye to eye. Jeff Wright was a decent DT, but not a good NT.

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            • PUCKER
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              • Sep 2004
              • 17623

              #7
              Re: What would happen

              Marino wouldnt last 2 games playing in ice cold Buffalo!
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              • chernobylwraiths
                Registered User
                • Jan 2003
                • 41838

                #8
                Re: What would happen

                Originally posted by PUCKER
                Marino wouldnt last 2 games playing in ice cold Buffalo!
                Even though he grew up in Pennsylvania and played college ball at Pitt?

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                • T-Nasty24
                  Registered User
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 91

                  #9
                  Re: What would happen

                  **** Marino

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                  • patmoran2006
                    Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 19840

                    #10
                    Re: What would happen

                    Originally posted by G. Host
                    Thurman would not have lasted the season with Marino.
                    Marino and fake RB handoffs did not go well together.

                    Bills would not have made the playoffs.
                    you're insane.


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                    • G. Host
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 10298

                      #11
                      Re: What would happen

                      Originally posted by patmoran2006
                      you're insane.
                      Don't make personal atacks unless you think it is ok for me to call you a moron with delusions of becoming the next Jerry Sullivan, ok?

                      Marino has terrible at faking handoffs to running backs and running backs got too many hits and hurt his running game.

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                      • Historian
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                        • Dec 2002
                        • 61725

                        #12
                        Re: What would happen

                        Originally posted by paulB
                        If The Bills traded the Dolphins Jim Kelly for Dan Marino straight up after the first two super bowl losses.
                        Thurman doesn't make it into the hall of fame.

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                        • patmoran2006
                          Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 19840

                          #13
                          Re: What would happen

                          Originally posted by G. Host
                          Don't make personal atacks unless you think it is ok for me to call you a moron with delusions of becoming the next Jerry Sullivan, ok?

                          Marino has terrible at faking handoffs to running backs and running backs got too many hits and hurt his running game.
                          1- I can ASSURE you I dont want to become the next Jerry Sullivan.

                          2- NOBODY on this board is a bigger Jim Kelly fan than I am. My HOUSE is literally a Jim Kelly museum, He's my ALL TIME football hero and I've been accused by many friends of being a little obsessed with Jim Kelly.

                          3- Having said that, you truly are football chemically imbalanced and beyond hommerific if you're saying that Kelly led us to four Super Bowls and that we woudnt even have made the playoffs if Marino was our quarterback, because he was terrible at faking handoffs to running backs. I personally despised Marino, but with the talent in Buffalo we'd have been a contender with Marino as the QB just the same. Maybe if Miami ever had a real running back he wouldn't have to fake handoffs 25 times per game.

                          That statement in comparison makes Skooby sound like John Madden.


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                          • SABURZFAN
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                            • Jul 2002
                            • 50747

                            #14
                            Re: What would happen

                            Originally posted by paulB
                            If The Bills traded the Dolphins Jim Kelly for Dan Marino straight up after the first two super bowl losses.

                            why didn't we draft marino instead of kelly?tony hunter went ahead of dan marino.what a joke.
                            Originally posted by yordad
                            Christ, you are the queerest person in the history of Bills fanhood. I swear to god I would stomp you.

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                            • SABURZFAN
                              short bus extraordinaire
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 50747

                              #15
                              Re: What would happen

                              Originally posted by Mudflap1
                              We didn't lose any Super Bowls because of Jim Kelly.

                              turnovers led to points for the other teams.how many INT's did kelly have?
                              Originally posted by yordad
                              Christ, you are the queerest person in the history of Bills fanhood. I swear to god I would stomp you.

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