Los Amigos de la Realidad

**Captain gameboy** · 07-13-2006, 04:05 AM

Re: Los Amigos de la Realidad

Best case ever for immediate immigration reform.

**John Doe** · 07-13-2006, 05:33 AM

Re: Los Amigos de la Realidad

I think a more realistic name for your org. would be:

"The Society of Sourpusses"

It really has a ring to it.

**chernobylwraiths** · 07-13-2006, 06:01 AM

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Got rid of Bledsoe because "it can't get any worse with anybody else at QB" - wrong

Got rid of Donahoe - you don't like who we got

Got a new HC with previous head coaching experience - you don't like who we got

You just can't please some people. They're rebuilding, what do you expect?

**YardRat** · 07-13-2006, 06:22 AM

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The Amigos did their duty when it was time to call for Drew "Stonefoot" Bledsoe's head.

That worked out really well so far, didn't it?

**jamze132** · 07-13-2006, 06:57 AM

Re: Los Amigos de la Realidad

los Amigos!

**Jan Reimers** · 07-13-2006, 07:18 AM

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Mr. C, I could repudiate each of your statements and turn them into a positive, but what's the use?

For instance, we have a GM with 50 years of football experience, more than any comparable executive in the NFL. . . a Head Coach with previous experience who, like many coaches before him, may be ready to win in his 2nd or 3rd stint. . . an improved O line . . . a D line tailored to the Tampa 2. . . etc., etc.

But I, too, realize that we are rebuilding, and am not expecting wonders at this point. I just feel that we are headed in the right direction, and am willing to give our old GM, our recycled head coach, and our very young team a couple of seasons to turn things around from the mess that Donahoe left.

**Jan Reimers** · 07-13-2006, 07:54 AM

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In fact, the biggest rift among Zoners and Bills' fans in general seems to be between those that think:

(1.) We have a lot of the right stuff in place - front office, coaching and player-wise - to show some improvement this year, and, with another good draft and a few decent FA additions, to be a good team in a year or two. We are not expecting to be in the playoffs this year, but we think things are headed in the right direction. Versus those that seem adamant that:

(2.) We have done virtually nothing right in our efforts to build a winning team. Levy and Ralph are too old, or too cheap or (insert your own joke or insult) to run a franchise; JP will never be any good; the O line and D line - particularly with the loss of the irreplacable Sam Adams - suck, and the young players we have there will never get any better; McGahee is a problem; the WR receiver corps, with the loss of Moulds, will be mediocre, etc., etc.

None but the most optimistic think that we'll make the playoffs - or even have a winning record - this season. It is our view of the short term future where there is the biggest difference.

**Iehoshua** · 07-13-2006, 09:02 AM

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Die, Bledsoe, Die!!!

Ding Dong, Drew is gone! Which ol' Drew? The stonefoot Drew! Ding Dong the stonefoot Drew is goooneeee!

***Disclaimer***
By "Die" I mean, suffer a case of bad indigestion which requires large amounts of Pepto.

**Philagape** · 07-13-2006, 09:14 AM

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The transition from Drew to JP will be worth what happened last year.

**OpIv37** · 07-13-2006, 09:18 AM

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Originally posted by chernobylwraiths

Got rid of Bledsoe because "it can't get any worse with anybody else at QB" - wrong

Got rid of Donahoe - you don't like who we got

Got a new HC with previous head coaching experience - you don't like who we got

You just can't please some people. They're rebuilding, what do you expect?

different isn't necessarily better

**justasportsfan** · 07-13-2006, 09:26 AM

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Originally posted by OpIv37

different isn't necessarily better

back to being a pest ,I mean pessimist are we?

Marv and co. are unknowns. TD and co. are guaranteed failures. I'd rather deal with the unkown than a sure bust.

**Mr. Cynical** · 07-13-2006, 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by Jan Reimers

In fact, the biggest rift among Zoners and Bills' fans in general seems to be between those that think:

(1.) We have a lot of the right stuff in place - front office, coaching and player-wise - to show some improvement this year, and, with another good draft and a few decent FA additions, to be a good team in a year or two. We are not expecting to be in the playoffs this year, but we think things are headed in the right direction. Versus those that seem adamant that:

(2.) We have done virtually nothing right in our efforts to build a winning team. Levy and Ralph are too old, or too cheap or (insert your own joke or insult) to run a franchise; JP will never be any good; the O line and D line - particularly with the loss of the irreplacable Sam Adams - suck, and the young players we have there will never get any better; McGahee is a problem; the WR receiver corps, with the loss of Moulds, will be mediocre, etc., etc.

None but the most optimistic think that we'll make the playoffs - or even have a winning record - this season. It is our view of the short term future where there is the biggest difference.

Good summary.

I would probably add a "1a" to include those people who think we are "a few pieces" away from being a serious contender.

Let's be realistic here for a moment....honestly, how many years do you (or the rest of Group 1) really think Ralph and Marv have left in football? Because IMO, this is the key to the success of the team, along with the terrible choice in HC (again, IMO).

If we are truly in a rebuilding mode, it takes at least 2-3 years to make a serious run at *best*. The cases where a team went from the basement to the penthouse in 1 year are very, very rare and shouldn't be put into the equation for any but the most optimisic (Group 1a).

If we make it to the dance in 3 years while Ralph and Marv are still lucid, then great, we did it. If not, and we are still bad to mediocre, then what? Marv is not going to be a GM in his mid 80s. I hate to be the one to say it but there comes a point where the physical demands of all those hours catch up with you, even for men who are decades younger. I don't want a GM who is not able to keep up with the job.

So if he retires, then a new GM comes on board. That means a new HC. And that means another system. And that means more time to get where we want. So it's not about Group 2 whining or never being happy, it's about the reality of our front office (and to a large extent, our players).

If we had a younger GM (I mean, even someone at lthe egal retirement age of 65) and a coach who has acutally produced (remember, not one of his defenses EVER was in the top 10), then I would be FAR more optimistic. I'd say great, we have guys to build the team over the next 5-10 years. Take your time, do it right. But that's not the case.

In reality this team can't afford to be in a rebuilding mode because of our front office. But we have to be in rebuilding mode because we stink. That's the conundrum.

**Mr. Cynical** · 07-13-2006, 10:37 PM

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Originally posted by YardRat

That worked out really well so far, didn't it?

Yes, it did. None of the Amigos said this team would be a winner with just the axing of Leadfoot. It was simply one of many moves that needed to be made to start the process.

Oh, and btw - Dallas missed the playoffs too.

**Mr. Cynical** · 07-13-2006, 10:38 PM

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Originally posted by chernobylwraiths

Got rid of Bledsoe because "it can't get any worse with anybody else at QB" - wrong

Got rid of Donahoe - you don't like who we got

Got a new HC with previous head coaching experience - you don't like who we got

You just can't please some people. They're rebuilding, what do you expect?

Read my reply to Jan.

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