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  • Mr. Miyagi
    Lecter's Little Bitch

    • Sep 2002
    • 53616

    Why is everyone already counting out JP?

    Everyone in the media is already calling JP a bust, that we'll be draft Brady Quinn next year, that JP will never amount to anything, blah blah blah. These are the same people who say Philip Rivers will not be a big drop off from Drew Brees, that Rivers is no JP.

    Why all the hate? It's not like JP has had 2 seasons to prove that he sucks. He's had 8 games, not consecutive ones either. Everyone can already tell how bad he is from those 8 games? Really?

    Why aren't these same people calling David Carr a bust then? Carr's career has been as mediocre and has had much longer to prove that. What about Rex Grossman?? Pennington?? Michael ***** Vick????

    Is it an anti-Buffalo bias??
  • Patti120
    Registered User
    • Aug 2004
    • 2333

    #2
    Re: Why is everyone already counting out JP?

    If JP doesn't start this year, then JP = Bust. If he does start and improves as the season goes on then I don't think he can be called a bust, as long as he keeps improving. We will have to wait and see what happens though.

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    • Mr. Miyagi
      Lecter's Little Bitch

      • Sep 2002
      • 53616

      #3
      Re: Why is everyone already counting out JP?

      I agree with the wait and see approach, but the point is the media is already saying he's a bust. Why is that??

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      • madness
        Registered User
        • Apr 2003
        • 13690

        #4
        Re: Why is everyone already counting out JP?

        Originally posted by Mr. Miyagi
        I agree with the wait and see approach, but the point is the media is already saying he's a bust. Why is that??
        Because they don't know their ass from a hole in the ground...oh and they are realists. They only predict the current trend.

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        • Patti120
          Registered User
          • Aug 2004
          • 2333

          #5
          Re: Why is everyone already counting out JP?

          The media are a bunch of idiots, they always write people off who are struggling, especially if youg and drafted in the 1st round. Maybe if the new coaching change is embraced by the team then it will be what JP needs to be a successful starter. hopefully his actions change their minds and finally give us some comfort with the QB situation. At that point we'd probably start hearing those melodramatic stories about how he was all but written off by the team, the fans, even the water boy and that he overcame these insurmountable obstacles to prove himself

          Otherwise its NALL BALL BABY!!

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          • Mr. Miyagi
            Lecter's Little Bitch

            • Sep 2002
            • 53616

            #6
            Re: Why is everyone already counting out JP?

            Nall is one ugly mofo.

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            • Mr. Miyagi
              Lecter's Little Bitch

              • Sep 2002
              • 53616

              #7
              Re: Why is everyone already counting out JP?

              I can't wait until Philip Rivers falls on his ass this season, leading the Chargers to a 2-8 start. I bet the media will still suck his ass like they do now. They just hate to be wrong.

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              • gil
                Registered User
                • Mar 2005
                • 820

                #8
                Re: Why is everyone already counting out JP?

                The media go for the convenient narrative - remember, 90% of them do no actual reporting, they rely on the "conventional wisdom" - which is cherished above all else, especially among members of the sport punditocracy.

                The conventional wisdom about Buffalo is that they have struggled because JP Losman was a 'bust' - few in the media actually know the ins and outs of how this franchise has been handled in recent years, so they go with the easiest answer - the conventional wisdom has become - "oh, Buffalo? JP Losman has been a bust, that's why they've struggled"

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                • Mr. Pink
                  Peterman Sucks!
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 35303

                  #9
                  Re: Why is everyone already counting out JP?

                  Because the NFL has largely turned into a "win-now" league. You're not given the luxury of allowing your "franchise saviour" to sit on the bench for a few years, take some lumps over a few years and wait 5 years for him to become good.

                  That's just the nature of the way the league has become, Losman looked outright terrible in 6 of his 8 starters...Miami and Hou being the exceptions. So go figure the media is going to portray him as a bust at this time.

                  Does this mean he can't turn it around? Definitely not, but this isn't the NFL of 1986 where you could afford to sit there for 3-4 years hoping a guy can figure it out. If JP puts up a mirror image season of last year, this year, his career will be labelled as a bust and he'll pretty much be done.

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                  • Mr. Miyagi
                    Lecter's Little Bitch

                    • Sep 2002
                    • 53616

                    #10
                    Re: Why is everyone already counting out JP?

                    So why isn't anyone on David Carr's sad ass case?

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                    • TacklingDummy
                      Unreachable Douche
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 71724

                      #11
                      Re: Why is everyone already counting out JP?

                      Originally posted by Mr. Miyagi
                      So why isn't anyone on David Carr's sad ass case?
                      Because Carr was drafted by a expansion team? Expansion teams generally are not counted on to do much their first 5 years or so.

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                      • TacklingDummy
                        Unreachable Douche
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 71724

                        #12
                        Re: Why is everyone already counting out JP?

                        Originally posted by Mr. Miyagi
                        Everyone in the media is already calling JP a bust, that we'll be draft Brady Quinn next year, that JP will never amount to anything, blah blah blah.
                        I think its because people who know football realize that the Bills were a QB away from being a more competitive team last year. Many of their losses could have been wins last year with a decent QB. Kelly Holcomb and JP Losman don't actually put fear in a imposing defenses eyes. The Bills would of played much better games last year against Tampa, New Orleans, Atlanta, NE, Carolina, Jets, Miami, KC, Houston with more production out of the QB position.

                        The Bills 4 biggest weakness last year were...1) Stopping the run 2) Pass Rush, 3) QB, 4) A offense that went 3 and out a majority of the time. Making 1 and 2much worse.

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                        • Philagape
                          WIN NOW
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 19432

                          #13
                          Re: Why is everyone already counting out JP?

                          They simply don't know what they're talking about. All they see is last year (irrelevant) and don't know anything else.
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                          • Amare
                            Don't Call It A Comeback!
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 197

                            #14
                            Re: Why is everyone already counting out JP?

                            Because he had a whoping 8 WHOLE GAMES! Those *******s!

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                            • bigbub2352
                              Registered User
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 5386

                              #15
                              Re: Why is everyone already counting out JP?

                              Plus most people across this great nation only know what they see on NFL primetime, Nfl Total access, and Sportscenter, they dont actually watch the games, the just know who is good in fantasy football, Fact being if u are a young QB thrown into an NFL profit freindly city you will be given all the chances in the world to suceed so they can sell those ever popular NFL merchandise, David Carr (HOUston) Kyle Bollar(Baltimore), Chris Simms (TB), Drew Brees (SD) Chad Pennington (NYC) and now you have Vince Young (Tenn), Leinhart (AZ), Cutler (Denver), u dont think the NFL promotes bigtime in those cities of millions, Vick in (ATL) one of the most overatted QB's i have ever seen, Everyone of these QB's were promoted heavely comig out and all struggled, and continue to strugglebut they are always talked about and promotede as futures of the nfl and franchises, Fact is nobody cares about the Bills and there population of 600,00 and going down that is why all the critics and experts all say the same things, we here are not NFL freindly,

                              U mean to tell me if Willis got drafted by the Raiders he would not be twice as popular about his knee and how he overcame adversity, or if TKO signed with Dallas how much more press he would get, this **** is obvious just look at it this way and u will see for your self!!
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