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  • BuffaloBillsStampede
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    • Aug 2005
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    My Camp Report 8/3/06........

    If you are a Holcomb fan you are going to like what I have to say. I have been behind JP this whole time and I still am, but after last nights practice I think Holcomb may have jumped in front.

    Let me start by saying both QB's looked good last night, and JP didn't throw any possible INT's that I can remember while Kelly threw two that were close ones because of his arm strenght. JP was getting the ball out quickly for the most part and finding open guys and threading the needle a couple times. Holcomb was also getting the ball out quickly, but on a more consitent basis. He was also finding guys down the field more often. During the long ball practice JP overthrew everyone, I don't think one ball was caught. Kelly Holcomb had less chances at it, but he threw two beauties one that went for a TD and one that went for a long gainer. It just looked like he was putting the ball right where it needed to be. While JP didn't have a bad practice Kelly's was just overall more consistent and impressive to me. I think if there really is an open competition Holcomb just pulled ahead slightly. I still have faith that JP can get back up there though because he looked good last night. If it means anything to anyone Holcomb was taking snaps with the first team all night.

    RB's looked good again with the runs to the outside going or a few big gainers and not much up the middle aside from one or two. Willis, A-Train, and Gates again showed the most. I think Willis is going to have a monster year this year. He looks more decisive and just quicker overall.

    WR's were dropping some balls last night, but I think it had a lot to do with the rain factor. There were some nice grabs during the deep ball session by Parrish, Chris Denney everhthough it was out of bounds, and one other I can't remember who but I want to say George Wilson.

    TE's didn't see the tight ends being used a lot in that practice so not much to report about them.

    O-Line I am really starting to worry about our backups. Jason Peters has Pro-Bowl potential down the road. The athletic starters we brought in are helping our outside running game tremendously. Gandy has not looked impressive so far, and the backups have been awful. Everytime the backups come in there is constant pressure on the QB's and nowhere to run. I am sure there are a couple good ones in there, but it's hard to tell in the pile.

    D-Line once again impressed me. I don't want to get ahead of myself, but I am really pumped about McCargo because he has looked really good so far. He moves a lot fast than someone his size should. He gets push everytime up the middle whether he gets by the blocker or not. Very quick off the ball. I was watching the Line drills for the D when they were doing footwork drills over the pads and honestly McCargo and Kyle Williams were the quickest to me with Tripplett close behind. I think Marv knew exactly what he was doing drafting these guys. Ryan Denney has been impressive so far in camp and continues to take the snaps with the first unit. I wouldn't be surprised if McCargo cracks the starting lineup sometime replacing Andersen.

    LB's were good as usual. I do have to say though Takeo wasn't as quick tonight in the LB drills as he was the other day. He almost fell over backwards while backpedaling at one point, but he did recover to make the play. I hope it was just an off day, because he hasn't shown any signs like that before. Crowell looks real fast. Fletcher is Fletcher.

    The DB's is the unit I am really excited about. I think we may get the real Nate back this year, and McGee breaks passes up on a regular basis. Ko Simpson continues his strong camp. Matt Bowen has even looked good. Donte Whitner can kiss the starting job good bye in my opinion because Matt Bowen has shown nothing but good things so far.

    Kepp in mind I did leave a little early due to the heavy rain, but I saw most of the practice, so I don't know what happened after I left.
    SUPER MARIO PLEASE COME TO BUFFALO!!!!
  • ICE74129
    Legendary Zoner
    • Feb 2005
    • 10796

    #2
    Re: My Camp Report 8/3/06........

    Originally posted by BuffaloBillsStampede
    If you are a Holcomb fan you are going to like what I have to say. I have been behind JP this whole time and I still am, but after last nights practice I think Holcomb may have jumped in front.

    Let me start by saying both QB's looked good last night, and JP didn't throw any possible INT's that I can remember while Kelly threw two that were close ones because of his arm strenght. JP was getting the ball out quickly for the most part and finding open guys and threading the needle a couple times. Holcomb was also getting the ball out quickly, but on a more consitent basis. He was also finding guys down the field more often. During the long ball practice JP overthrew everyone, I don't think one ball was caught. Kelly Holcomb had less chances at it, but he threw two beauties one that went for a TD and one that went for a long gainer. It just looked like he was putting the ball right where it needed to be. While JP didn't have a bad practice Kelly's was just overall more consistent and impressive to me. I think if there really is an open competition Holcomb just pulled ahead slightly. I still have faith that JP can get back up there though because he looked good last night. If it means anything to anyone Holcomb was taking snaps with the first team all night.

    RB's looked good again with the runs to the outside going or a few big gainers and not much up the middle aside from one or two. Willis, A-Train, and Gates again showed the most. I think Willis is going to have a monster year this year. He looks more decisive and just quicker overall.

    WR's were dropping some balls last night, but I think it had a lot to do with the rain factor. There were some nice grabs during the deep ball session by Parrish, Chris Denney everhthough it was out of bounds, and one other I can't remember who but I want to say George Wilson.

    TE's didn't see the tight ends being used a lot in that practice so not much to report about them.

    O-Line I am really starting to worry about our backups. Jason Peters has Pro-Bowl potential down the road. The athletic starters we brought in are helping our outside running game tremendously. Gandy has not looked impressive so far, and the backups have been awful. Everytime the backups come in there is constant pressure on the QB's and nowhere to run. I am sure there are a couple good ones in there, but it's hard to tell in the pile.

    D-Line once again impressed me. I don't want to get ahead of myself, but I am really pumped about McCargo because he has looked really good so far. He moves a lot fast than someone his size should. He gets push everytime up the middle whether he gets by the blocker or not. Very quick off the ball. I was watching the Line drills for the D when they were doing footwork drills over the pads and honestly McCargo and Kyle Williams were the quickest to me with Tripplett close behind. I think Marv knew exactly what he was doing drafting these guys. Ryan Denney has been impressive so far in camp and continues to take the snaps with the first unit. I wouldn't be surprised if McCargo cracks the starting lineup sometime replacing Andersen.

    LB's were good as usual. I do have to say though Takeo wasn't as quick tonight in the LB drills as he was the other day. He almost fell over backwards while backpedaling at one point, but he did recover to make the play. I hope it was just an off day, because he hasn't shown any signs like that before. Crowell looks real fast. Fletcher is Fletcher.

    The DB's is the unit I am really excited about. I think we may get the real Nate back this year, and McGee breaks passes up on a regular basis. Ko Simpson continues his strong camp. Matt Bowen has even looked good. Donte Whitner can kiss the starting job good bye in my opinion because Matt Bowen has shown nothing but good things so far.

    Kepp in mind I did leave a little early due to the heavy rain, but I saw most of the practice, so I don't know what happened after I left.


    Again I ask, how many reps with the first string for JP, and for Holcomb. I bet KH had more reps with the first string, that has been the theme so far in camp.

    It was my understanding JP was off because he had much more pressure in his face (due to not having the starting line in front of him) than holcomb did?

    Man more and more its showing there isn't a legit comp going on.

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    • BuffaloBillsStampede
      Registered User
      • Aug 2005
      • 1230

      #3
      Re: My Camp Report 8/3/06........

      Well Kelly had more snaps with 1st string I would say. Whether it was first or second string line last night JP looked good.

      I want to clarify if I didn't say it correctly that they both had real good practices, but in my opinion Kelly did enough to take the lead last night.

      I was also wondering why JP wasn't getting more snaps with the 1st team like Kelly was so I think that is a valid point.
      SUPER MARIO PLEASE COME TO BUFFALO!!!!

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      • The Spaz
        Registered User
        • Mar 2003
        • 19066

        #4
        Re: My Camp Report 8/3/06........

        Weird Chris Brown said the TE's we're used quite a bit.

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        • Patti120
          Registered User
          • Aug 2004
          • 2333

          #5
          Re: My Camp Report 8/3/06........

          Thanks for the update!!

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          • Earthquake Enyart
            Legendary Zoner
            • Jul 2002
            • 27521

            #6
            Re: My Camp Report 8/3/06........

            Originally posted by ICE74129
            Again I ask, how many reps with the first string for JP, and for Holcomb. I bet KH had more reps with the first string, that has been the theme so far in camp.

            It was my understanding JP was off because he had much more pressure in his face (due to not having the starting line in front of him) than holcomb did?

            Man more and more its showing there isn't a legit comp going on.
            It's really unfair that Holcomb throws the ball better and makes better decisions.

            DJ should stop this nonsense right now

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            • BuffaloBillsStampede
              Registered User
              • Aug 2005
              • 1230

              #7
              Re: My Camp Report 8/3/06........

              Yeah I just read that I guess I didn't see it. It was hard last night because of the rain and doing different drills all over the field, but Royal has looked impressive the other three days I have been there so it doesn't surprise me.
              SUPER MARIO PLEASE COME TO BUFFALO!!!!

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              • alohabillsfan
                Registered User
                • Sep 2003
                • 3206

                #8
                Re: My Camp Report 8/3/06........

                LB's were good as usual. I do have to say though Takeo wasn't as quick tonight in the LB drills as he was the other day. He almost fell over backwards while backpedaling at one point, but he did recover to make the play. I hope it was just an off day, because he hasn't shown any signs like that before. Crowell looks real fast. Fletcher is Fletcher.


                Technically Fletcher is Fletcher-Baker! Great Write-Up, thanks for all of us Bills fans around the globe!

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                • The last buffalo fan
                  I told the pet store guy "How else am I supposed to get the mouse out of my ass?"
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 18204

                  #9
                  Re: My Camp Report 8/3/06........

                  , Thanks man, for your time and work.
                  The Mexican & too!!

                  - Adriano & Emiliano, the next Villa & Zapata. Viva Mexico, cabrones!!! -

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                  • ICE74129
                    Legendary Zoner
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 10796

                    #10
                    Re: My Camp Report 8/3/06........

                    Originally posted by BuffaloBillsStampede
                    Well Kelly had more snaps with 1st string I would say. Whether it was first or second string line last night JP looked good.

                    I want to clarify if I didn't say it correctly that they both had real good practices, but in my opinion Kelly did enough to take the lead last night.

                    I was also wondering why JP wasn't getting more snaps with the 1st team like Kelly was so I think that is a valid point.
                    Again guys I am not meaning to be a jerk, I just know for FACT there is no such thing as a legit QB comp. There is no way they can have one.

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                    • Jan Reimers
                      Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
                      • May 2003
                      • 17353

                      #11
                      Re: My Camp Report 8/3/06........

                      Thanks for the great report, BBS.

                      I'm not surprised that Holcomb looks so good in camp. He has a histoty of that. If he becomes our starter for the regular season, however, his lack of mobility, weak arm, and propensity to fumble will produce a very mediocre year for all of us. He has a history of that, too.
                      Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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                      • BuffaloBillsStampede
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 1230

                        #12
                        Re: My Camp Report 8/3/06........

                        He did have a fumble yesterday, but like I said it was raining.
                        SUPER MARIO PLEASE COME TO BUFFALO!!!!

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                        • ICE74129
                          Legendary Zoner
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 10796

                          #13
                          Re: My Camp Report 8/3/06........

                          Originally posted by Earthquake Enyart
                          It's really unfair that Holcomb throws the ball better and makes better decisions.

                          DJ should stop this nonsense right now
                          Sorry EE that was a stupid comment and I am suprised a smart poster like you would come with that.

                          Here is reality and fact, you play with the 2nd string you aren't going to do as good. If that were the case, who do we care who starts on the OL, DL etc? There is a first string for a reason.

                          DJ is starting to show he wants Holcomb as his QB which is his MO. He doesnt' have the guts to make the right decision and allow JP the real opportunity to win the job. That is my opinion and so far the facts are pileing up to back it.

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                          • carybillsfan
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 625

                            #14
                            Re: My Camp Report 8/3/06........

                            McCargo was always great at NCSU. Him being doubled team often allowed Mario Williams to run free on stunts or his quick feet and penetration often forced Qb's to shift Williams' way. I'm not worried about him at all, he's a solid player and will make the pro-bowl one day. As for the Qb competition, let's just wait and see what happens in the first 2 preseason games. When a QB actually can get hit, and our qb's will, it's a whole new game.

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                            • LtBillsFan66
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 35553

                              #15
                              Re: My Camp Report 8/3/06........

                              KH is such a cancer. He should purposely do bad so that JP can be the clear starter.


                              That was sarcasm for some of you dumbasses.

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