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  • ICE74129
    Legendary Zoner
    • Feb 2005
    • 10796

    What I want to see Against Cinci

    I'm still not expecting perfection from JP. I would just like to see a little more improvement than last week. If in 4 series he can lead 3 scoring drives and not throw a pick, then he did just fine. Thats REALITY. No QB is going to come in against the starting defense of another team and go 10-10 250 and 4 TD's on 4 drives. Sorry, no.

    I think whats missed here is fans are putting way too much on JP. They are expecting perfection and that won't ever come. Big Ben wasn't perfect, but was very good on a great team. Heck Palmer and Manning I Still have bad games. The difference is more often than not, they are on their game...win or lose. Again...Win or lose.

    I hope JP goes and looks at the game film of what holcomb did to cinci last year. Kelly knows how to attack thier defense. They still have definate holes that can be attacked. Can they stop the run? Getting willis going needs to start THIS WEEK or this season is in trouble, JP or no JP.

    So if JP gets 4-6 series and can put up 12-17 points and looks BETTER than last week, Then he has done what he needs to do and DJ should end it now and name the kid the starter.
  • EricStratton
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 20893

    #2
    Re: What I want to see Against Cinci

    I don't even need 3 or 4 scoring drives, I'd settle for 7-10 points in his time as long as his drives aren't 3 and out or picks.

    He just needs to show progress at this point, it's still only August.

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    • Earthquake Enyart
      Legendary Zoner
      • Jul 2002
      • 27521

      #3
      Re: What I want to see Against Cinci

      He's a No. 1 draft pick. I expect him to do better than lackluster. With 4-6 series I expect at least 20 points or I will continue to rate him as a failure.

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      • Mitchy moo
        Roways rooking ahread!
        • Sep 2005
        • 18380

        #4
        Re: What I want to see Against Cinci

        Originally posted by ICE74129
        Thats REALITY. No QB is going to come in against the starting defense of another team and go 10-10 250 and 4 TD's on 4 drives. Sorry, no.

        You must of not watched kurt warner / St. Louis in 1999. The line was -21 in many of those games, they covered in the first half with these kind of stats. You just need gamers & a plan.

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        • Kerr
          Hall of Fame Zoner
          • Feb 2005
          • 6656

          #5
          Re: What I want to see Against Cinci

          No QB is going to come in against the starting defense of another team and go 10-10 250 and 4 TD's on 4 drives. Sorry, no.
          Nobody is expecting jp to put up those kinds of numbers. You might still be impressed with 62%, but if you remember, rj had good completion percentages as well, but the points offensively didn't show up on the board. I don't really care about flashy numbers. I want the offense to have life, excitement while jp is in there. I want to see points.


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          • chubluv
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            • Jan 2003
            • 11565

            #6
            Re: What I want to see Against Cinci

            We all expect & want to see JP do better against 1st teamer's then he did backups. Thats the name of the game. Losman should be getting better after every performance if they let him go out there and play his game. I feel game plans should be made around the talent you have on the team. Not what the coaches want to do. Last year JP was doing 4 different types of game plans in the preseason . The coaches should of just figured in camp what kind of attack was best suited for JP and go with it, but they didn't & they screwed him up.Hopefully DJ and the coaches will figure it out quicker and have more patience then last years staff did.


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            • ICE74129
              Legendary Zoner
              • Feb 2005
              • 10796

              #7
              Re: What I want to see Against Cinci

              Originally posted by EricStratton
              I don't even need 3 or 4 scoring drives, I'd settle for 7-10 points in his time as long as his drives aren't 3 and out or picks.

              He just needs to show progress at this point, it's still only August.
              Exactly. Even if its 9 points (3 FG) points are points as long as he looks a little stronger, accurate, a few more good decisions than not etc.

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              • ICE74129
                Legendary Zoner
                • Feb 2005
                • 10796

                #8
                Re: What I want to see Against Cinci

                Originally posted by Kerr
                Nobody is expecting jp to put up those kinds of numbers. You might still be impressed with 62%, but if you remember, rj had good completion percentages as well, but the points offensively didn't show up on the board. I don't really care about flashy numbers. I want the offense to have life, excitement while jp is in there. I want to see points.


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                Then go watch payton manning. I don't give a damn if we win every game 6-3. it still = WINS And thats all I care about. Exciting, boring I dont give a damn. WIN GAMES!!!

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                • Kerr
                  Hall of Fame Zoner
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 6656

                  #9
                  Re: What I want to see Against Cinci

                  Originally posted by ICE74129
                  Then go watch payton manning. I don't give a damn if we win every game 6-3. it still = WINS And thats all I care about. Exciting, boring I dont give a damn. WIN GAMES!!!

                  Sure, as if our D is really good enough to win close games. Get real.

                  This offense is going to have to score point in order to win games. It's still a fairly young defense.

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                  • HHURRICANE
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 15490

                    #10
                    Re: What I want to see Against Cinci

                    I want him to pass for 200-300 yards per game this year. So I'd like to see a night where Reed actually catches the ball. Everybody forgets that Jim Kelly had receivers that could catch the ball.

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                    • ICE74129
                      Legendary Zoner
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 10796

                      #11
                      Re: What I want to see Against Cinci

                      Originally posted by Kerr
                      Sure, as if our D is really good enough to win close games. Get real.

                      This offense is going to have to score point in order to win games. It's still a fairly young defense.
                      Then again go watch manning because we aren't putting up a ton of points this season even with manning as our QB. Putting up big points requres all three phazes of your game to be clicking and ours wont' be. Not only that I am FAR from sold on this OL which is where ALL of this starts.

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                      • eyedog
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 1742

                        #12
                        Re: What I want to see Against Cinci

                        DJ has already named JP the starter. He just hasn't come out in the media and verbally said it. It's done. Last nights rep distribution told us that.

                        If JP can walk and chew gum the rest of the camp he is the starter in New England.

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                        • Kerr
                          Hall of Fame Zoner
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 6656

                          #13
                          Re: What I want to see Against Cinci

                          Originally posted by ICE74129
                          Then again go watch manning because we aren't putting up a ton of points this season even with manning as our QB. Putting up big points requres all three phazes of your game to be clicking and ours wont' be. Not only that I am FAR from sold on this OL which is where ALL of this starts.
                          In that case, don't expect to win any games because this defense likely won't be good enough to hold a tight game.

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                          • gil
                            Registered User
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 820

                            #14
                            Re: What I want to see Against Cinci

                            I'd like to see the O-Line step it up a notch as well, it seems JP is needing a little time to get into rythm (it's the pre-season, who doesn't), so an extra second or two in the pocket would be nice...

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                            • RedEyE
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 24661

                              #15
                              Re: What I want to see Against Cinci

                              I would like to see the 1st offense move the ball consistantly. Something that we haven't seen in quite a while. At least 2 decent drives to the red zone is greatly needed.

                              Other things that I'll be watching:

                              - OL movement and their ability to dissolve a hard blitz. This one might be a little difficult to see delivered since blitzing doesn't happen all that often this early in preseason. Still, protecting the QB is an obvious necessity - regardless of how mobile the QB might be.

                              - Pass protection is one thing, but opening holes is entirely different specific the line needs to perfect. In order for McGahee to improve his numbers from last season, the line is going to have to open some holes and hold blocks. If the line can run block better than last season, and McGahee becomes the monster we think he can be, then the passing game becomes a secondary issue as the passing game opens up immensely.

                              - The Secondary. The Bills DBs will be tested early against Cincy's passing game.

                              - McCargo. He still needs to show us something.

                              - WR's. It's time to take note as to which receivers are excelling and which are not up for the task. Reed needs to hang onto the football, plain and simple. There is too much competition surrounding him to make those mental mistakes. The roster will need to be cut down soon and the WRs will be certain to take a hit or two.

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