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  • Kerr
    Hall of Fame Zoner
    • Feb 2005
    • 6656

    Our starting ends against bengals OT's

    0 sacks and they were backups. Should this be a concern??
  • Tatonka
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 21289

    #2
    Re: Our starting ends against bengals OT's

    obviously it is not good.
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    • Goobylal
      Registered User
      • Jan 2004
      • 19371

      #3
      Re: Our starting ends against bengals OT's

      Non-issue. Wait until the real season.

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      • ICE74129
        Legendary Zoner
        • Feb 2005
        • 10796

        #4
        Re: Our starting ends against bengals OT's

        Originally posted by Kerr
        0 sacks and they were backups. Should this be a concern??
        No. The only reason we lost is JP And his fumbles. Not the fact we got no pressure with our DL on backups, Willis fumble led to at least a 10 point swing, DB's couldn't stop Johnson etc.

        Its just JP's fault

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        • Kelly The Dog
          Registered User
          • Jul 2002
          • 445

          #5
          Re: Our starting ends against bengals OT's

          Tripplet's sack was really due to Schobel who made the play. Denney looked good, too.

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          • Kerr
            Hall of Fame Zoner
            • Feb 2005
            • 6656

            #6
            Re: Our starting ends against bengals OT's

            Originally posted by ICE74129
            No. The only reason we lost is JP And his fumbles. Not the fact we got no pressure with our DL on backups, Willis fumble led to at least a 10 point swing, DB's couldn't stop Johnson etc.

            Its just JP's fault

            All you had to say is no.

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            • Scumbag College
              Registered User
              • Oct 2002
              • 4949

              #7
              Re: Our starting ends against bengals OT's

              Even though the DEs didn't have any sacks, Wright was under alot of pressure during the first half. Schoebel got into Wright's face on Tripplett's sack and really caused it. Denney had pressure a couple of times and batted down a pass in the end zone. I had to look up on the Bills' website who #91 was. Eric Powell was all over the place and around the QB a few times. I didn't see much of Kelsay though.

              You know that Schoebel is solid, but I think the Bills are going to be OK this year with Kelsay, Denney, and Powell as the other three DEs.
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              • mysticsoto
                Too sober for this...
                • Apr 2004
                • 31439

                #8
                Re: Our starting ends against bengals OT's

                Originally posted by Kerr
                0 sacks and they were backups. Should this be a concern??
                Remember...Vanilla defense. Nothing is disguised. No surprises or tipping of our hand to show packages we will implement.

                People forget that in the early 90s, Levy lost most of the preseason games too...it doesn't mean anything!!!

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                • HHURRICANE
                  Registered User
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 15490

                  #9
                  Re: Our starting ends against bengals OT's

                  Originally posted by Kerr
                  0 sacks and they were backups. Should this be a concern??
                  Your stating the obvious. Our ends suck and won't get addressed until next year.

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                  • Kerr
                    Hall of Fame Zoner
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 6656

                    #10
                    Re: Our starting ends against bengals OT's

                    Originally posted by mysticsoto
                    Remember...Vanilla defense. Nothing is disguised. No surprises or tipping of our hand to show packages we will implement.

                    People forget that in the early 90s, Levy lost most of the preseason games too...it doesn't mean anything!!!

                    Understood, but if it takes a scheme to get our ends to get a sack, then that's kind of pathetic. I mean our starting ends should at least gain a sack on their pure speed, quickness and strength, especially against backups.

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                    • mysticsoto
                      Too sober for this...
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 31439

                      #11
                      Re: Our starting ends against bengals OT's

                      Originally posted by Kerr
                      Understood, but if it takes a scheme to get our ends to get a sack, then that's kind of pathetic. I mean our starting ends should at least gain a sack on their pure speed, quickness and strength, especially against backups.
                      We haven't had speed, quickness and strength at the DE position since Bruce. Schobel gets his sacks purely on tenacity. Kelsay and Denney get sacks very sporadically and haven't been shown to have what it takes to go to the next level. All in all, DE is really one of our weaker positions.

                      I expect Levy to address the position next year in the draft possibly in the 1st rd...barring how our QB situation turns out.

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                      • Kerr
                        Hall of Fame Zoner
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 6656

                        #12
                        Re: Our starting ends against bengals OT's

                        Originally posted by mysticsoto
                        We haven't had speed, quickness and strength at the DE position since Bruce. Schobel gets his sacks purely on tenacity. Kelsay and Denney get sacks very sporadically and haven't been shown to have what it takes to go to the next level. All in all, DE is really one of our weaker positions.

                        I expect Levy to address the position next year in the draft possibly in the 1st rd...barring how our QB situation turns out.

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                        • MikeInRoch
                          Registered User
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 10446

                          #13
                          Re: Our starting ends against bengals OT's

                          You also need to keep in mind that the Bengals have one of the best O-lines (and in particular, their tackles) in the league.
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                          • Kerr
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                            • Feb 2005
                            • 6656

                            #14
                            Re: Our starting ends against bengals OT's

                            Originally posted by MikeInRoch
                            You also need to keep in mind that the Bengals have one of the best O-lines (and in particular, their tackles) in the league.

                            Backup tackles as well? Their starting tackles didn't play in the game at all.

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