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TigerJ
02-25-2003, 08:08 AM
Rob's Scouting has a chart posted at his web site for all the players invited to the combine that may eventually list a lot of stats (height, weight, reps of 225lbs, 40 yd time etc.) See the links thread if you want to fine it. However, there' is very little info yet. I wondered if anyone has found a site that has more complete data yet. Leave a link here and on the links thread if you do, please.

MelK
02-25-2003, 08:23 PM
Bernies Draft insiders has some stuff

Bernie's draft Insiders (http://citadel2.ezboard.com/fbrownsinsiderfrm15.showMessage?topicID=11148.topic)

MelK
02-25-2003, 08:23 PM
Subject: Tracking rumored combine results.
Posted By: tdog Moderating Dawg

Posted At: 2/19/03 11:40:50 pm
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Offensive Line

Jordan Black (Notre Dame-OT)(6' 6", 315)
Derrick Dockery (Texas-OG)(6' 6", 347)
Jeff Faine (Notre Dame-C)(6' 2", 303)
Makoa Freitas (Arizona-OG) 36 reps of 225, 5.01/40
Jordan Gross (Utah-OT)(6' 4 1/2", 300) 28 reps of 225, 5.05/40, 31 1/2" Vert.
Kwame Harris (Stanford-OT)(6' 7'', 310) 5.08/40 or 5.28 and 5.25/40s, Vert. 35 1/2"
Montrae Holland (FSU-OG)(6'1", 333) 30 reps of 225
Wayne Hunter (Hawaii-OT)(6' 6", 303) 37 reps of 225, 5.07/40, Vert. 31"
Al Johnson (Wisc.-C)(6'4", 305)
Ben Johnson (Wisc.-OT)(6'6", 329)
Scott Kooistra (North Carolina State-OT)(317 lbs.) 5.13/40
Damian Lavergne(Louisiana Tech-OT) 17 reps of 225
Sean Mahan (Notre Dame-OG)(311 lbs.) 5.11/40, 30 reps of 225
Vince Manuwai (Hawaii-OG)(6'2", 304) 28 reps of 225, shuttle drill in the 4.2s, 5.09 and 5.07/40s
Kareem Marshall (Georgia-OT)(6' 4½", 355)
Tony Pashos (Illinois-OT)(6'6", 337) 38 reps of 225
Tim Provost (San Jose State-OT)(301 lbs.) 21 reps of 225, Vert. 28.5", Long jump 8'7"
Brett Romberg (Miami-C)(6' 2", 290) 27 reps of 225
Justin Sands (Kansas-OT) 31 reps of 225
Steve Sciullo (Marshall-OT) 5.4 5.47/40, Vert. 28"
Ben Sobieski (Iowa-OT) Vert. 30"
Eric Steinbach (Iowa-OG/OT)(6' 6",297) Vert. 35½", 4.90-4.96/40 or GBN says 4.85/40 or 5.14 and 5.15/40s
Jon Stinchcomb (Georgia-OT)(320 lbs.) 32 reps of 225, low 5.0s/40, Vert. 35", broad jump 9' 5"
Torrin Tucker (Southern Miss.-OG)(6'5", 320) 5.34/40
Brett Williams (Florida State-OT)(6' 6", 310) 5.25 and 5.25/40s, Vert. 27 1/2"

MelK
02-25-2003, 08:24 PM
Running Backs/Fullbacks

B.J. Askew (Michigan-RB)(6' 2 1/2", 241)
Chris Brown (Colorado-RB)(6' 2", 230)
Kerry Carter (Stanford-RB)(238 lbs.), 7% body fat, 20 reps of 225, Vert. 36.5", long jump 9'10"
Domanick Davis (LSU-RB) did 22 reps of 225, 4.57/40
Justin Fargas (USC-RB) (6' 1", 219 lbs), did 27 reps at 225, 40 time of 4.28 (per GBN)
Justin Griffith (Mississippi State-FB)(5'11", 230) did 29 reps of 225, 4.55/40
Dwone Hicks (Middle Tennesse St.-RB)(5' 11", 224) 29 reps at 225
Jeremi Johnson (W. Kentucky-FB/RB) (5' 11 1/2", 260)
Larry Johnson (Penn St.-RB)(6'-1", 228 )
Nick Maddox (Florida State-RB)(211 lbs.) 18 reps of 225
Sultan McCullough (USC-RB) did 27 reps of 225
Casey Moore (Stanford-FB)(6'1 7/8", 240)
Artose Pinner (Kentucky-RB)(5' 10", 228 )
Andrew Pinnock (S.C.-RB)(265 lbs - also reported at 250 lbs)
Musa Smith (Georgia-RB)(6' 1¾", 232)
Onterrio Smith (Oregon-RB) 5'10", 220)
Lee Suggs (V. Tech-RB)(5' 11 5/8", 202)
Derek Watson (South Carolina-RB)(6' 0", 223)

MelK
02-25-2003, 08:25 PM
Defensive Linemen

Anthony Adams (Penn State-DT) 5' 11 1/2", 299) 5.08/40
Tully Banta-Cain (Cal-DE)(6' 2", 265 lbs) did 25 reps of 225,
Tyler Brayton (Colorado-DE)(6' 5" or 6' 6", 269 or 271 or 277) low 4.7/40 or 4.67/40
Nick Burley (Fresno State-DE)(6' 3 1/2", 243) 26 reps of 225, 4.83/40
Nick Eason (Clemson-DT)(6' 3", 301 or 302 lbs.) 29 reps of 225, 5.04 and 5.05/40s
Aubrayo Franklin (Tennessee-DT)(6' 1 1/2", 307) 29 reps of 225
Brandon Green (Rice-DE)(6' 2 1/2", 267) 19 reps of 225, 4.74/40
Jamaal Green (Miami-DE)(6' 1 1/2", 272) 27 reps of 225, 4.73/40
Omari Hand (Tennessee-DE)(6' 3 3/4", 267) 34 reps of 225,
Michael Haynes (Penn St.-DE)(6' 3 ½", 280) did 23 reps of 225, 4.83/40
Aaron Hunt (Texas Tech-DE)(6' 2 1/2", 268 ) did 24 or 25 reps of 225, 4.73/40
Alonzo Jackson (Florida State-DE)(6' 4", 250 or 251 or 266) 14 reps of 225, 4.79/40
Jarrett Johnson (Alabama-DT)(286 lbs.) 5.0/40
William Joseph (Miami-DT)(6' 5", 308 )(longest arms of DLs at 35") 30 reps of 225 (Gambill says 29 reps)
Chris Kelsay ( Nebraska-DE)(6' 4 3/8, 273) 23 reps of 225, 4.68 and 4.77/40s, also reported as a 4.70/40, an "in the 4.7s" (Clayton)
Jimmy Kennedy (Penn State-DT)(6' 4", 322)
Kenny King (Alabama-DT)(6' 2 3/4", 281)
Dan Klecko (Temple-DE/DT)(5' 11 3/4", 285) 4.93-4.97/40 or 4.88/40 (P. King art.)
Tron Lafavor (Florida-DT)(6' 1 7/8", 290)
James Lee (Oregon State-DT)(320 lbs.) 4.91/40
Matt Leonard (Stanford-DT) 30 reps of 225, 4.95/40
Rien Long (Wash. St.-DT)(6' 6 1/8", 302)
Eric Manning (Oregon State-DT)(6' 1 1/4", 303) 26 reps of 225
Terrance Martin (NC St.-DT)(6' 2", 299) 30 reps of 225
Jerome McDougle (Miami-DE)(6' 2", 264) 4.65 and 4.68/40, also reported as a 4.66/40
Clint Mitchell (Florida-DE)(6' 7", 257) 16 reps of 225, 4.88 and 4.93/40s
Langston Moore (South Carolina-DT)(6' 1", 303) 29 reps of 225
Calvin Pace (Wake Forest-DE)(6' 4", 265) 4.77/40, Vert. 33"
Antwan Peek (Cinci-DE/OLB)(6' 1 1/2", 246 or 247 lbs) 21 reps of 225, Vert. 37", 4.52/40 or 4.59 and 4.60/40, 10' 5" broad jump
Kenny Peterson (OSU-DE)(6' 3", 298 ) 29 of 225
Shurron Pierson (South Florida-DE) 4.61/40
Cory Redding (Texas-DE)(6' 4", 279)
Dewayne Robertson (Kentucky-DT)(6' 1 3/8", 317)
Ian Scott (Florida-DT)(6' 2 1/2", 312 or 305) 28 reps of 225, 5.18/40
Terrell Suggs (Arizona St-DE)( 6' 3 3/8", 262)
Johnathan Sullivan (Georgia-DT)(6' 3 5/8", 313) 5.0/40
Ty Warren (Texas A&M-DT)(6' 4", 298 )
Matt Walters (Miami-DT)(6' 4 1/2", 272) 30 reps of 225
DeWayne White (Louisville-DE)(6' 2" (Bills article says 6' 5"), 273) 22 reps of 225, Vert. 33.5"
Andrew Williams (Miami-DE) sub 4.7/40
Kevin Williams (Okla. St.-DT)(6' 4 7/8", 304) 23 reps of 225, 4.97/40 or 4.85/40 (Pasq.) or 4.88 (Clayton)
Jimmy Wilkerson (Oklahoma-DE)(6' 3", 271) 29 reps of 225, 4.90/40

MelK
02-25-2003, 08:25 PM
Quarterbacks

Brad Banks (Iowa-QB)(5' 11", 202) 4.5/40
Kyle Boller (Cal.-QB)(6' 3", 233 or 234)(Denver Post says 6' 4", 205 - they are on drugs, IMHO) 9% body fat, 4.59 and a 4.61/40, Vert. 35", 9' 9" broad jump
Ken Dorsey (Miami-QB)(6-4½, 208 )
Jason Gesser (Wash. St.-QB)(6' 0½", 205)
Rex Grossman (Florida-QB) (6' 1")
Kliff Kingsbury (Texas Tech-QB)(6' 3½", 219)
Byron Leftwich (Marshall-QB)(6' 5 3/4", 240 or 241)
Carson Palmer (USC-QB)(6' 4", 232)
Dave Ragone (Louisville-QB)(6' 3", 249 lbs)
Chris Simms (Texas-QB)(6' 1½" (PFW - they are on drugs, too) or 6' 4" (correct #, IMHO), 221) 4.89/40, or 4.77 and 4.82/40s (Clayton art.)
Brian St. Pierre (Boston College-QB(6' 2¾", 218 )
Seneca Wallace (Iowa-QB)(5' 11½") 4.53/40

MelK
02-25-2003, 08:25 PM
Wide Receivers

Sam Aiken (North Carolina-WR)(6' 1 1/2", 210) 4.46/40, 10' 2" broad jump
Paul Arnold (Washington-WR)(6' 0", 213 lbs.) 4.46/40
Arnaz Battle (Norte Dame-WR)(6' 2 1/2") 4.6/40
Anquan Boldin (Florida St.-WR)( ' 1½", 218 ) 4.75-4.83/40 range or 4.68/40
Nate Burleson (Nevada-WR)(197 lbs.) 4.52-4.54/40, Vert. 42.5", 10' 5" broad jump
Tyrone Calico (Middle Tennessee-WR)(223 lbs.) 4.33/40
Kevin Curtis (Utah State-WR) 4.48/40 or 4.38-4.40/40 (Pasq.) 48 on the Wonderlic
Latarence Dunbar (TCU-WR) 16 reps of 225
Terrence Edwards (Georgia-WR)(6' 0", 176)
Doug Gabriel (Central Florida-WR)(6' 2", 214)
Ryan Hoag (Gustavus-Adolphus-WR)(6' 2" 201) 4.46/40
Taylor Jacobs (Florida-WR)(6' 0", 205)
Andre Johnson (Miami-WR)(6' 2", 230)
Bethel Johnson (Texas A&M-WR)(5'11", 201) 4.48 and 4.53/40
Teyo Johnson (Stanford-WR)(6' 5 1/2", 247)
Kareem Kelly (USC-WR) mid 4.4.5/40
Brandon Lloyd (Illinois-WR) 4.67/40 or 4.69/40
Shaun McDonald (Arizona St.-WR)(5' 9")
Billy McMullen, Jr. (Virginia-WR)(6' 3", 210)
Kassim Osgood (San Diego St.-WR)(6' 4 7/8”, 208 ) had trouble breaking 4.7/40
Charles Rogers (Mich. St.-WR)(6' 2 1/2", 202 1/2)
Dan Stricker (Vanderbilt-WR) 4.62/40
J.R. Tolver (San Diego State-WR) 4.8/40
Kelley Washington (Tennessee-WR)(6' 2" or 6' 3", 223)

MelK
02-25-2003, 08:25 PM
Tight Ends

Dallas Clark (Iowa-TE)(6' 3", 256)
Robert Johnson (Auburn-TE)(6' 6 1/2", 278 ) 18 reps of 225, at or just under 5.0/40
Donald Lee (Mississippi St-TE)(6' 3" 250) 26 reps of 225, 4.7/40
Ben Joppru (Michigan, TE)(6' 4", 272)
Vishante Shiancoe (Morgan State-TE)(6" 4 ¼", 251) 28 reps of 225, 4.7/40
L.J. Smith (Rutgers-TE)(258 lbs.) 4.6 range/40s
Aaron Walker (Florida-TE) 4.6 range/40
Jason Witten (Tennessee-TE)(6' 5½", 262) 27 reps of 225

MelK
02-25-2003, 08:26 PM
Linebackers
Khalid Abdullah (Mars Hill-LB) 4.59/40
Nick Barnett (Orgeon State-LB)(236 lbs.) high 4.5/40 range
Boss Bailey (Georgia-LB)(6' 3", 233) did not run, Vert. 42", long jump 11' 3"
Nick Barnett (Oregon State-LB)(236 lbs.) 32 reps of 225 "in the 4.6's"/40 (Clayton)
Cie Grant (Ohio St-LB)(6' 0 1/4", 228 )
Gerald Hayes (Pittsburgh-LB)(under 6' 0")
E.J. Henderson (Maryland-LB)(6' 1", 245) 20 reps of 225, 30" Vert., did not run
Victor Hobson (Michigan-LB)(6' 1", 252) 29 reps of 225
Bradie James (LSU-LB)(6' 1 5/8", 242)
Jeremy Loyd (Iowa State-LB) in the 4.6s/40 (Clayton)
LaMarcus McDonald (TCU-LB)(227 lbs.) 5.0/40
Kawika Mitchell (S. Florida-LB)(6' 1", 253) 4.65/40
Mike Nattiel (Florida-LB)(5' 11 1/2", 228 )
Joe Odom (Purdue-LB) 4.59/40
Terry Pierce (Kansas State-LB)(6' 1" or 6' 1 3/4", 251) 28 reps of 225, did not run
Chaun Thomas (West Texas A&M-LB) 29 reps of 225, high 4.5/40 or 4.44-4.53/40 (Gamb.) Vert. 36"
Pisa Tinoisamoa (Hawaii-LB)(6' 0 1/4", 231) 19 reps of 225, did not run (TFY info) - Gambill says he ran 4.56 and 4.67/40s, Vert. 35"
Keyon Whiteside Tennessee-LB) 27 Reps of 225
Matt Wilhelm (Ohio St.-LB)(6' 3 1/2", 245)

MelK
02-25-2003, 08:26 PM
Defensive Backs

Rod Babers (Texas-CB)(5' 8½") 4.4/40
Julian Battle (Tennessee-S)(6' 2", 206)
Colin Branch (Stanford-DB) 22 reps of 225, 4.39/40
Sammy Davis (Texas A&M-CB)(5' 11", 186) 4.41/40, Vert. 40"
Mike Doss (Ohio St.-S)(just over 5' 10")
Charles Drake (Michigan-DB) 20 reps of 225
Drayton Florence (Tuskegee-CB)(6' 0", 198 )
Kevin Garrett (SMU-DB) 4.4/40 or 4.32/40 (Gamb.)
Dejuan Groce (Nebraska-CB)(5' 9 1/2", 192) 4.48/40
Jason Goss (TCU-CB)(5' 10", 184)
Ken Hamlin (Arkansas-S)(6' 2", 206 or 209)
Todd Johnson (Florida-DB) 20 reps of 225
Norman Lejeune (Louisiana State-S)(6' 0 5/8", 201) 13 reps of 225
Brian Mance (Clemson-DB) 18 reps of 225
Ricky Manning, Jr. (UCLA-CB) 4.51/40
Rashean Mathis (Bethune-Cookman-CB)(6' 1", 202 or 203) 22 reps of 225, 4.47/40
Terence Newman (Kasas St.-CB)(5' 10", 189) 4.36/40 (Gamb.) or 4.32-4.34 (Pasq.), Vert. 41", broad jump 11' 4"
Donnie Nickey (Ohio St.-Safety) 38 on the Wonderlic test.
Derek Pagel (Iowa-S) 25 reps of 225
Troy Polamalu (USC-S)(5' 10", 206)
Marcus Trufant (Wash. St.-CB)(5' 11", 199 lbs.) 11 reps of 225, 4.39/40
Shane Walton (Notre Dame-CB) 4.57-4.65/40
Dennis Weathersby (Oregon St-CB) 4.37
Eugene Wilson (Illinois-CB)(5' 10", 192) 4.48/40
Andre Woolfolk (Oklahoma-CB)(6' 1 1/2", 197) 10 reps of 225, 4.46/40 (Gamb.) or 4.49/40 (Adv.

TigerJ
02-25-2003, 09:03 PM
Thanks, Mel. I wonder if there will be more coming out, or if this is it. It's still really scanty. One player let's himself be weighed, another lifts weights, another takes the Wunderlick. There's not enough information on most of them to get any kind of a feel for what they might be able to do in the pros.

MelK
02-25-2003, 09:28 PM
All the bench pressing, weight lifting, wonderlicking (that didn't sound right) really won't tell how these guys will play in the pros.


It's a job interview when it gets all boiled down to it. On interviews, the guy in the slickest suit and tie and who tells you all the things you want to hear doesn't necissarially become the best employee.

TigerJ
02-26-2003, 11:46 AM
I don't disagree with you Mel. Ideally, it's nice to find a guy who has it all, smarts, attitude and athleticism, but there aren't too many like that. I guess it's a question whether you look at the guys with the great numbers first and then winnow out the ones with badd attitudes or start with guys that have great attitudes and weed out the clutzes.