....and the kick is up, and it's GOOD!

[Dozerdog]

Lindell puts it through from 34 yards out and the Bills lead 20-7.


Let's see what happens-


<table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr id="drive" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" align="left">Third Quarter</td></tr><tr id="home" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="home" align="left">New England Patriots at 15:00</td></tr><tr id="kick" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="bg3" align="left">S.Gostkowski kicks 71 yards from NE 30 to BUF -1. T.McGee to BUF 24 for 25 yards (E.Alexander).</td></tr><tr id="away" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="away" align="left">Buffalo Bills at 14:55</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-BUF24</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(14:55) W.McGahee right guard to BUF 28 for 4 yards (V.Wilfork, J.Seau).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-6-BUF28</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(14:13) J.Losman pass short middle to P.Price to BUF 39 for 11 yards (J.Seau, R.Harrison) [T.Banta-Cain].</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-BUF39</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(13:33) W.McGahee left tackle to NE 47 for 14 yards (E.Wilson, R.Harrison).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-NE47</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(12:58) W.McGahee left end to NE 48 for -1 yards (R.Seymour, T.Banta-Cain).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-11-NE48</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(12:20) J.Losman pass deep right to L.Evans to NE 30 for 18 yards (E.Hobbs, R.Harrison).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-NE30</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(11:36) J.Losman pass short right to R.Royal to NE 16 for 14 yards (R.Harrison, M.Vrabel).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-NE16</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(11:01) W.McGahee right guard to NE 14 for 2 yards (T.Banta-Cain, T.Warren).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-8-NE14</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(10:21) J.Losman pass incomplete short right to D.Shelton [T.Warren].</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">3-8-NE14</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(10:17) J.Losman pass short left to L.Evans to NE 7 for 7 yards (E.Hobbs) [R.Colvin].</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">4-1-NE7

BUF 20
NE 7,
</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(9:30) R Lindell FG is good , 34 yds

.</td></tr><tr id="home" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="home" align="left">New England Patriots at 09:24</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-NE7</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(9:24) C.Dillon right tackle to NE 10 for 3 yards (T.McGee, D.Whitner).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-7-NE10</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(8:50) T.Brady pass short right to R.Caldwell to NE 19 for 9 yards (K.Ellison).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-NE19</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(8:11) T.Brady pass short middle to C.Dillon to NE 25 for 6 yards (L.Fletcher-Baker, T.Anderson).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-4-NE25</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(7:29) L.Maroney right tackle to NE 20 for -5 yards (R.Denney).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">3-9-NE20</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(6:48) (Shotgun) T.Brady pass deep middle to B.Watson to BUF 46 for 34 yards (D.Whitner).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-BUF46</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(6:07) C.Dillon right guard to BUF 38 for 8 yards (T.McGee, K.Simpson). BUF-T.McGee was injured during the play. His return is Probable.</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-2-BUF38</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(5:32) C.Dillon right guard to BUF 33 for 5 yards (L.Fletcher-Baker, D.Whitner).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-BUF33</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(4:56) T.Brady pass short right to T.Brown to BUF 24 for 9 yards (C.Kelsay, D.Whitner).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-1-BUF24</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(4:21) L.Maroney left end to BUF 18 for 6 yards (A.Crowell, K.Williams).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-BUF18</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(3:43) L.Maroney up the middle to BUF 17 for 1 yard (K.Williams, J.McCargo).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-9-BUF17</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(3:00) T.Brady pass incomplete short middle to D.Graham.</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">3-9-BUF17</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(2:56) (Shotgun) T.Brady pass deep right to K.Faulk for 17 yards, TOUCHDOWN. NE-K.Faulk was injured during the play.</td></tr><tr id="kick" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="bg3" align="left">S.Gostkowski extra point is GOOD, Center-L.Paxton, Holder-J.Miller.</td></tr><tr id="drive" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" align="left">BUF 20 NE 14, Plays: 12 Yards: 93 Possession: 6:32.</td></tr><tr id="kick" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="bg3" align="left"> </td></tr><tr id="home" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="home" align="left">New England Patriots at 02:52</td></tr><tr id="kick" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="bg3" align="left">S.Gostkowski kicks 72 yards from NE 30 to BUF -2. T.McGee to BUF 42 for 44 yards (A.Hawkins, W.Andrews).</td></tr><tr id="away" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="away" align="left">Buffalo Bills at 02:45</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-BUF42</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(2:45) W.McGahee right end to BUF 40 for -2 yards (A.Samuel, R.Colvin).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-12-BUF40</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(2:03) W.McGahee right guard to BUF 44 for 4 yards (V.Wilfork, R.Seymour).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">3-8-BUF44</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(1:20) J.Losman pass incomplete short left [R.Colvin]. Penalty on BUF-M.Gandy, Offensive Holding, declined.</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">4-8-BUF44</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(1:13) (Run formation)
PENALTY on BUF-M.Schneck, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at BUF 44 - No Play.</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">4-13-BUF39</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(1:13) B.Moorman punts 38 yards to NE 23, Center-M.Schneck, out of bounds.</td></tr><tr id="home" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="home" align="left">New England Patriots at 01:05</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-NE23</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(1:05) L.Maroney left end to NE 30 for 7 yards (A.Crowell).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-3-NE30</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(:31) L.Maroney left end pushed ob at NE 37 for 7 yards (D.Whitner).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-NE37</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(:03) L.Maroney left tackle to NE 37 for no gain (L.Fletcher-Baker, K.Williams).</td></tr><tr id="drive" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" align="left">Fourth Quarter</td></tr><tr id="kick" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="bg3" align="left">New England Patriots continued...</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-10-NE37</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(15:00) T.Brady pass incomplete short right to B.Watson [C.Kelsay].</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">3-10-NE37</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(14:56) (Shotgun) T.Brady pass short middle to B.Watson to NE 48 for 11 yards (T.McGee, A.Crowell).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-NE48</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(14:12) L.Maroney up the middle to BUF 44 for 8 yards (D.Whitner, K.Simpson).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-2-BUF44</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(13:38) L.Maroney left tackle to BUF 44 for no gain (C.Kelsay).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">3-2-BUF44</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(13:00) (Shotgun) K.Faulk left guard to BUF 43 for 1 yard (T.McGee, L.Tripplett).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">4-1-BUF43</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(12:06) T.Brady up the middle to BUF 41 for 2 yards (K.Williams, R.Denney).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-BUF41</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(11:28) T.Brady pass deep left to R.Caldwell to BUF 17 for 24 yards (K.Simpson, N.Clements).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-BUF17</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(10:55) L.Maroney right tackle to BUF 13 for 4 yards (L.Fletcher-Baker, K.Ellison).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-6-BUF13</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(10:23) L.Maroney up the middle to BUF 14 for -1 yards (A.Crowell, K.Ellison).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">3-7-BUF14</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(9:42) (Shotgun) T.Brady pass incomplete short right to D.Graham.</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">4-7-BUF14</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(9:37) S.Gostkowski 32 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-L.Paxton, Holder-J.Miller.</td></tr><tr id="drive" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" align="left">BUF 20 NE 17, Plays: 14 Yards: 63 Possession: 6:32.</td></tr><tr id="kick" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="bg3" align="left"> </td></tr><tr id="home" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="home" align="left">New England Patriots at 09:33</td></tr><tr id="kick" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="bg3" align="left">S.Gostkowski kicks 73 yards from NE 30 to BUF -3. T.McGee to BUF 17 for 20 yards (E.Alexander, D.Davis).
PENALTY on BUF, Illegal Block Above the Waist, 8 yards, enforced at BUF 17.</td></tr><tr id="away" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="away" align="left">Buffalo Bills at 09:27</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-BUF9</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(9:27) J.Losman pass incomplete short left to D.Shelton [R.Seymour].</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-10-BUF9</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(9:22) W.McGahee right guard to BUF 8 for -1 yards (J.Seau, T.Warren).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">3-11-BUF8</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(8:55) J.Losman sacked in End Zone for -8 yards, SAFETY (T.Warren).</td></tr><tr id="drive" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" align="left">BUF 20 NE 19</td></tr><tr id="kick" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="bg3" align="left"> </td></tr><tr id="away" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="away" align="left">Buffalo Bills at 08:33</td></tr><tr id="kick" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="bg3" align="left">B.Moorman kicks 69 yards from BUF 20 to NE 11. K.Faulk to NE 34 for 23 yards (J.Greer, R.Neufeld).</td></tr><tr id="home" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="home" align="left">New England Patriots at 08:26</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-NE34</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(8:26) T.Brady pass deep left intended for B.Watson INTERCEPTED by D.Whitner at BUF 44. D.Whitner to NE 46 for 10 yards.
PENALTY on BUF-N.Clements, Illegal Block Above the Waist, 10 yards, enforced at NE 46.</td></tr><tr id="away" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="away" align="left">Buffalo Bills at 08:14</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-BUF44</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(8:14) W.McGahee left guard to BUF 42 for -2 yards (M.Vrabel).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-12-BUF42</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(7:31) W.McGahee left tackle to NE 48 for 10 yards (J.Seau, E.Wilson).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">3-2-NE48</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(6:58) J.Losman pass short left to P.Price pushed ob at NE 38 for 10 yards (E.Wilson) [R.Seymour].
PENALTY on BUF-R.Royal, Illegal Block Above the Waist, 10 yards, enforced at NE 38.</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">3-2-NE48</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(6:28) J.Losman sacked at BUF 46 for -6 yards (R.Seymour).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">4-8-BUF46</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(6:22) B.Moorman punts 29 yards to NE 25, Center-M.Schneck, out of bounds.</td></tr><tr id="home" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="home" align="left">New England Patriots at 06:15</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-NE25</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(6:15) C.Dillon up the middle to NE 28 for 3 yards (T.Anderson, A.Crowell).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-7-NE28</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(5:34) T.Brady pass deep middle to D.Graham to BUF 49 for 23 yards (K.Simpson, K.Ellison).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-BUF49</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(4:51) C.Dillon right guard to BUF 40 for 9 yards (K.Simpson, K.Ellison).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-1-BUF40</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(4:12) C.Dillon left tackle to BUF 34 for 6 yards (K.Ellison).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-BUF34</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(3:30) C.Dillon left guard to BUF 34 for no gain (A.Crowell, K.Ellison).
PENALTY on BUF-A.Schobel, Encroachment, 5 yards, enforced at BUF 34 - No Play.</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-5-BUF29</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(3:25) L.Maroney right tackle to BUF 29 for no gain (K.Ellison, D.Whitner).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-5-BUF29</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(2:44) L.Maroney right guard to BUF 25 for 4 yards (R.Denney, A.Schobel).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">3-1-BUF25</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(2:21) C.Dillon up the middle to BUF 26 for -1 yards (L.Fletcher-Baker, K.Ellison).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">4-2-BUF26</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(2:00) C.Dillon left end to BUF 20 for 6 yards (K.Simpson).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-BUF20</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(1:46) T.Brady kneels to BUF 21 for -1 yards.</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-11-BUF21</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(1:03) T.Brady kneels to BUF 21 for no gain.</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">3-11-BUF21</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(:24) T.Brady kneels to BUF 22 for -1 yards.



</td></tr></tbody></table>(0:00) S.Gostkowski 32 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-L.Paxton, Holder-J.Miller.



Patriots 22, Bills 20

[HHURRICANE]

Jauron decides to kick the field goal. We lose 22-20 and everyone talks how we should have gone for it on 4th and 1 when we had momentum. How winning coaches like Bellichek went for it twice on 4th down and won the game.

[mybills]

boo

[RedEyE]

Right on Dozer!!

I love the call on 4th and 1.

[Mr. Cynical]

Dumbest. Thread. Ever.

[Dozerdog]

Explain Mr Whiney

[The_Philster]

Dumbest. Thread. Ever.
can't be...cause this one (http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=107878) is dumber

[Michael82]

Right on Dozer!!

I love the call on 4th and 1.
I do too. It's about time our coach finally showed some balls. And some confidence in the running game. If only Willis pushed a little harder. :sigh:

[Typ0]

I don't agree with this...and the funny thing is in most cases I would have loved the call. On the road going for it there is usually a good choice. However, I thought at the time we had surprisingly outplayed NE and had a lot of pressure on the ***. When we failed to score there it really threw the balance of the game into their hands for the first time...and they ran with it. I don't think it's as simple as just picking up and adding up the points for the rest of the game...the situation is completely different and would yield a different outcome.

[OpIv37]

boo

wait, back the truck up here. You said that you LIKED Jauron's decision to go for it on 4th down. This thread is saying that if he went for the FG, we would have lost anyway, so it's defending the decision that you said you liked.

But you BOO this thread?

Which is it? Did Jauron make the right decision or should he have kicked the FG? Make up your mind.

[hammerbillsfan]

boo

You drinking the 99 Bananas?

[Luisito23]

He's getting ready for halloween not booing this thread....:madcloud:




GO BILLS!!!!!!!

[Dozerdog]

I don't agree with this...and the funny thing is in most cases I would have loved the call. On the road going for it there is usually a good choice. However, I thought at the time we had surprisingly outplayed NE and had a lot of pressure on the ***. When we failed to score there it really threw the balance of the game into their hands for the first time...and they ran with it. I don't think it's as simple as just picking up and adding up the points for the rest of the game...the situation is completely different and would yield a different outcome.

Yeah- NE would have panicked and thrown in the towel...they don't have that kind of experience coming back

[Typ0]

Yeah- NE would have panicked and thrown in the towel...they don't have that kind of experience coming back

I keep looking...but I don't see where I said that.

[lordofgun]

I always want to go for it, so I'm not going to ever knock a coach for that.

Good thread.

[RockStar36]

Good thread and good decision by DJ.

[Philagape]

I went through the scenario on another thread before I saw this one. It's the truth. There is absolutely no reason to believe the Pats would have done anything differently, because they didn't have to. They had plenty of time. They came back and scored because we couldn't stop them. I don't care about momentum crap. Momentum means nothing when we can't stop the run. We couldn't stop it all day.

[Night Train]

Couldn't agree more, Dozer. Well said.

[ddaryl]

I don't believe the 4th and 1 missed attempt sealed our fate, but I would have taken the points, as I felt the extra presure and the way our Pass D was holding up we had a better chance at winning.

Ultimately it was the penalties that killed us, in the 4th especially. The Bills are the young team with a new coaching staff that needs to improve. NE is the experienced team with solid leaders, and they played like a team with experience as thegame wore on.

In the end there were probably 1/2 dozen plays that could have swung the game in our favor. I didn't expect to win this game going into it, but I came out of that game realizing we are better then most of the league will give us credit for.

This game gave me some hope that we finally have a foundation that can be built upon. It may be a bit premature, but I was happy about a lot of stuff, and feel the much of the negative stuff can be worked on and improved upon.

[clumping platelets]

Going for it was the right move.....Willis needs to be more aggressive

[Historian]

Dumbest. Thread. Ever.

I'll second that.

[Philagape]

"I'm glad coach called it. I think it was the right call. I think that if we want to be the offense we want to be -- and the team we want to be -- we have to have that attitude. We have to say, 'Fourth and one? No question, let's go for it right now. We just drove 80 yards downfield and we want to let up on fourth and one? You're crazy.'" -- J.P. Losman

[Typ0]

Lindell puts it through from 34 yards out and the Bills lead 20-7.


Let's see what happens-


<table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr id="drive" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" align="left">Third Quarter</td></tr><tr id="home" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="home" align="left">New England Patriots at 15:00</td></tr><tr id="kick" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="bg3" align="left">S.Gostkowski kicks 71 yards from NE 30 to BUF -1. T.McGee to BUF 24 for 25 yards (E.Alexander).</td></tr><tr id="away" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="away" align="left">Buffalo Bills at 14:55</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-BUF24</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(14:55) W.McGahee right guard to BUF 28 for 4 yards (V.Wilfork, J.Seau).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-6-BUF28</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(14:13) J.Losman pass short middle to P.Price to BUF 39 for 11 yards (J.Seau, R.Harrison) [T.Banta-Cain].</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-BUF39</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(13:33) W.McGahee left tackle to NE 47 for 14 yards (E.Wilson, R.Harrison).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-NE47</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(12:58) W.McGahee left end to NE 48 for -1 yards (R.Seymour, T.Banta-Cain).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-11-NE48</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(12:20) J.Losman pass deep right to L.Evans to NE 30 for 18 yards (E.Hobbs, R.Harrison).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-NE30</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(11:36) J.Losman pass short right to R.Royal to NE 16 for 14 yards (R.Harrison, M.Vrabel).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-NE16</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(11:01) W.McGahee right guard to NE 14 for 2 yards (T.Banta-Cain, T.Warren).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-8-NE14</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(10:21) J.Losman pass incomplete short right to D.Shelton [T.Warren].</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">3-8-NE14</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(10:17) J.Losman pass short left to L.Evans to NE 7 for 7 yards (E.Hobbs) [R.Colvin].</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">4-1-NE7

BUF 20
NE 7,
</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(9:30) R Lindell FG is good , 34 yds

.</td></tr><tr id="home" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="home" align="left">New England Patriots at 09:24</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-NE7</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(9:24) C.Dillon right tackle to NE 10 for 3 yards (T.McGee, D.Whitner).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-7-NE10</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(8:50) T.Brady pass short right to R.Caldwell to NE 19 for 9 yards (K.Ellison).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-NE19</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(8:11) T.Brady pass short middle to C.Dillon to NE 25 for 6 yards (L.Fletcher-Baker, T.Anderson).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-4-NE25</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(7:29) L.Maroney right tackle to NE 20 for -5 yards (R.Denney).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">3-9-NE20</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(6:48) (Shotgun) T.Brady pass deep middle to B.Watson to BUF 46 for 34 yards (D.Whitner).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-BUF46</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(6:07) C.Dillon right guard to BUF 38 for 8 yards (T.McGee, K.Simpson). BUF-T.McGee was injured during the play. His return is Probable.</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-2-BUF38</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(5:32) C.Dillon right guard to BUF 33 for 5 yards (L.Fletcher-Baker, D.Whitner).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-BUF33</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(4:56) T.Brady pass short right to T.Brown to BUF 24 for 9 yards (C.Kelsay, D.Whitner).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-1-BUF24</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(4:21) L.Maroney left end to BUF 18 for 6 yards (A.Crowell, K.Williams).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-BUF18</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(3:43) L.Maroney up the middle to BUF 17 for 1 yard (K.Williams, J.McCargo).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-9-BUF17</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(3:00) T.Brady pass incomplete short middle to D.Graham.</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">3-9-BUF17</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(2:56) (Shotgun) T.Brady pass deep right to K.Faulk for 17 yards, TOUCHDOWN. NE-K.Faulk was injured during the play.</td></tr><tr id="kick" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="bg3" align="left">S.Gostkowski extra point is GOOD, Center-L.Paxton, Holder-J.Miller.</td></tr><tr id="drive" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" align="left">BUF 20 NE 14, Plays: 12 Yards: 93 Possession: 6:32.</td></tr><tr id="kick" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="bg3" align="left"> </td></tr><tr id="home" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="home" align="left">New England Patriots at 02:52</td></tr><tr id="kick" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="bg3" align="left">S.Gostkowski kicks 72 yards from NE 30 to BUF -2. T.McGee to BUF 42 for 44 yards (A.Hawkins, W.Andrews).</td></tr><tr id="away" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="away" align="left">Buffalo Bills at 02:45</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-BUF42</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(2:45) W.McGahee right end to BUF 40 for -2 yards (A.Samuel, R.Colvin).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-12-BUF40</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(2:03) W.McGahee right guard to BUF 44 for 4 yards (V.Wilfork, R.Seymour).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">3-8-BUF44</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(1:20) J.Losman pass incomplete short left [R.Colvin]. Penalty on BUF-M.Gandy, Offensive Holding, declined.</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">4-8-BUF44</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(1:13) (Run formation)
PENALTY on BUF-M.Schneck, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at BUF 44 - No Play.</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">4-13-BUF39</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(1:13) B.Moorman punts 38 yards to NE 23, Center-M.Schneck, out of bounds.</td></tr><tr id="home" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="home" align="left">New England Patriots at 01:05</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-NE23</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(1:05) L.Maroney left end to NE 30 for 7 yards (A.Crowell).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-3-NE30</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(:31) L.Maroney left end pushed ob at NE 37 for 7 yards (D.Whitner).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-NE37</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(:03) L.Maroney left tackle to NE 37 for no gain (L.Fletcher-Baker, K.Williams).</td></tr><tr id="drive" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" align="left">Fourth Quarter</td></tr><tr id="kick" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="bg3" align="left">New England Patriots continued...</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-10-NE37</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(15:00) T.Brady pass incomplete short right to B.Watson [C.Kelsay].</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">3-10-NE37</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(14:56) (Shotgun) T.Brady pass short middle to B.Watson to NE 48 for 11 yards (T.McGee, A.Crowell).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-NE48</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(14:12) L.Maroney up the middle to BUF 44 for 8 yards (D.Whitner, K.Simpson).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-2-BUF44</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(13:38) L.Maroney left tackle to BUF 44 for no gain (C.Kelsay).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">3-2-BUF44</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(13:00) (Shotgun) K.Faulk left guard to BUF 43 for 1 yard (T.McGee, L.Tripplett).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">4-1-BUF43</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(12:06) T.Brady up the middle to BUF 41 for 2 yards (K.Williams, R.Denney).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-BUF41</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(11:28) T.Brady pass deep left to R.Caldwell to BUF 17 for 24 yards (K.Simpson, N.Clements).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-BUF17</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(10:55) L.Maroney right tackle to BUF 13 for 4 yards (L.Fletcher-Baker, K.Ellison).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-6-BUF13</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(10:23) L.Maroney up the middle to BUF 14 for -1 yards (A.Crowell, K.Ellison).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">3-7-BUF14</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(9:42) (Shotgun) T.Brady pass incomplete short right to D.Graham.</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">4-7-BUF14</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(9:37) S.Gostkowski 32 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-L.Paxton, Holder-J.Miller.</td></tr><tr id="drive" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" align="left">BUF 20 NE 17, Plays: 14 Yards: 63 Possession: 6:32.</td></tr><tr id="kick" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="bg3" align="left"> </td></tr><tr id="home" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="home" align="left">New England Patriots at 09:33</td></tr><tr id="kick" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="bg3" align="left">S.Gostkowski kicks 73 yards from NE 30 to BUF -3. T.McGee to BUF 17 for 20 yards (E.Alexander, D.Davis).
PENALTY on BUF, Illegal Block Above the Waist, 8 yards, enforced at BUF 17.</td></tr><tr id="away" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="away" align="left">Buffalo Bills at 09:27</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-BUF9</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(9:27) J.Losman pass incomplete short left to D.Shelton [R.Seymour].</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-10-BUF9</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(9:22) W.McGahee right guard to BUF 8 for -1 yards (J.Seau, T.Warren).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">3-11-BUF8</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(8:55) J.Losman sacked in End Zone for -8 yards, SAFETY (T.Warren).</td></tr><tr id="drive" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" align="left">BUF 20 NE 19</td></tr><tr id="kick" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="bg3" align="left"> </td></tr><tr id="away" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="away" align="left">Buffalo Bills at 08:33</td></tr><tr id="kick" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="bg3" align="left">B.Moorman kicks 69 yards from BUF 20 to NE 11. K.Faulk to NE 34 for 23 yards (J.Greer, R.Neufeld).</td></tr><tr id="home" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="home" align="left">New England Patriots at 08:26</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-NE34</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(8:26) T.Brady pass deep left intended for B.Watson INTERCEPTED by D.Whitner at BUF 44. D.Whitner to NE 46 for 10 yards.
PENALTY on BUF-N.Clements, Illegal Block Above the Waist, 10 yards, enforced at NE 46.</td></tr><tr id="away" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="away" align="left">Buffalo Bills at 08:14</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-BUF44</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(8:14) W.McGahee left guard to BUF 42 for -2 yards (M.Vrabel).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-12-BUF42</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(7:31) W.McGahee left tackle to NE 48 for 10 yards (J.Seau, E.Wilson).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">3-2-NE48</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(6:58) J.Losman pass short left to P.Price pushed ob at NE 38 for 10 yards (E.Wilson) [R.Seymour].
PENALTY on BUF-R.Royal, Illegal Block Above the Waist, 10 yards, enforced at NE 38.</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">3-2-NE48</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(6:28) J.Losman sacked at BUF 46 for -6 yards (R.Seymour).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">4-8-BUF46</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(6:22) B.Moorman punts 29 yards to NE 25, Center-M.Schneck, out of bounds.</td></tr><tr id="home" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td colspan="2" class="home" align="left">New England Patriots at 06:15</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-NE25</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(6:15) C.Dillon up the middle to NE 28 for 3 yards (T.Anderson, A.Crowell).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-7-NE28</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(5:34) T.Brady pass deep middle to D.Graham to BUF 49 for 23 yards (K.Simpson, K.Ellison).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-BUF49</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(4:51) C.Dillon right guard to BUF 40 for 9 yards (K.Simpson, K.Ellison).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-1-BUF40</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(4:12) C.Dillon left tackle to BUF 34 for 6 yards (K.Ellison).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-BUF34</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(3:30) C.Dillon left guard to BUF 34 for no gain (A.Crowell, K.Ellison).
PENALTY on BUF-A.Schobel, Encroachment, 5 yards, enforced at BUF 34 - No Play.</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-5-BUF29</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(3:25) L.Maroney right tackle to BUF 29 for no gain (K.Ellison, D.Whitner).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-5-BUF29</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(2:44) L.Maroney right guard to BUF 25 for 4 yards (R.Denney, A.Schobel).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">3-1-BUF25</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(2:21) C.Dillon up the middle to BUF 26 for -1 yards (L.Fletcher-Baker, K.Ellison).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">4-2-BUF26</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(2:00) C.Dillon left end to BUF 20 for 6 yards (K.Simpson).</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">1-10-BUF20</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(1:46) T.Brady kneels to BUF 21 for -1 yards.</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">2-11-BUF21</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(1:03) T.Brady kneels to BUF 21 for no gain.</td></tr><tr id="play" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td class="bg3" align="left">3-11-BUF21</td><td class="bg3" align="left">(:24) T.Brady kneels to BUF 22 for -1 yards.



</td></tr></tbody></table>(0:00) S.Gostkowski 32 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-L.Paxton, Holder-J.Miller.



Patriots 22, Bills 20



the other thing that needs to be stated here is what, of our three units, would you say clearly has the upper hand over NE? Guess what, it's special teams. Your scenario is nice and all but how do you know they wouldn't have fumbled the kickoff? You don't.

[Philagape]

How do we know a seagull wouldn't have hit the kickoff in mid-air and the ball lands right in one of our players' hands??????

[Iehoshua]

How do we know a seagull wouldn't have hit the kickoff in mid-air and the ball lands right in one of our players' hands??????
Amen. I'm sick of these boards not giving seagulls their due. What's it take for a bird to get some respect around here? You people need to take the rosey glasses off and start seeing the entire realm of nature.

:cynic:

[LtBillsFan66]

I wanted the points, but wasn't mad at the decision. If it worked, we'd all be happy. I do agree with typo though. It was a huge momentum switch.

[ublinkwescore]

Willis should have been more aggressive?

It's kinda hard to be aggressive when you're getting hit in your own backfield...

I know this isn't the popular theme here, but I think we should have just taken the points - there's no way to know for sure that we would have lost otherwise - this thread is pointless in that regard - we may not have surrendered the safety if we take the gimme points...

wouldn't that field goal have made it 20-14? or 20-7?

either way, passing the ball so close to our endzone is always stupid so late in a game. Didn't we already see what happens when we do that under Mularkey - coincidentally in the same exact place too.

[Philagape]

I wanted the points, but wasn't mad at the decision. If it worked, we'd all be happy. I do agree with typo though. It was a huge momentum switch.

For the remaining 24 minutes of the game?

Extreme stretch.