BTW Eli 3 ints, Ben R, 3 Ints....

[ICE74129]

So even more established QB's that some say are much better than JP and are definately on better teams...they can have crap days too? Nah. No way. Its only JP. and he is the reason we lost.

So does that mean Eli and Ben are the reason the Giants and Steelers lost? Damn man, they better bench those SOB's and put in the backups....

[TacklingDummy]

What Rob Johnson, Heath Shuler, David Klingler, Andre Ware, Joey Harrington, Todd Marinovich, have for stats today?

[ICE74129]

What Rob Johnson, Heath Shuler, David Klingler, Andre Ware, Joey Harrington, Todd Marinovich, have for stats today?

So you want to ignore the FACT that more established QB's on much better teams had the same type of day? LOL it figures. JP had a good and bad day, the TEAM lost for MANY Reasons, JP was a small part of it.

[Tatonka]

jp had some of the best numbers of all the qbs in the nfl today. he was number 3 in fantasy scoring.

jp did not lose this game for us.. he had one fumble he should have protected the ball better on.. and an awful attempt at a block by mcgahee caused one turnover, but the defense getting picked apart by pennington is the reason we lost.

[TacklingDummy]

The problem with your theory is that Eli and Ben have had alot more good games then bad games. We are still waiting for JP to have his first good game. Sure he's had a good Qtr. here and there but he's never had a good game from the start of it until the ending whisle.

And yes the team lost and no JP wasn't a small part of it, he was a HUGE part of it. He had 3 turnovers all by himself. With 1 (should of been both) of the fumbles returned for Touchdowns.

Even with his bad play he still had a chance to win the game at the end. What did he do? Threw 2 ducks to Willis behind the LOS and 1 duck 10 yards out of bounds. GAME OVER.

[ICE74129]

The problem with your theory is that Eli and Ben have had alot more good games then bad games. We are still waiting for JP to have his first good game. Sure he's had a good Qtr. here and there but he's never had a good game from the start of it until the ending whisle.

And yes the team lost and no JP wasn't a small part of it, he was a HUGE part of it. He had 3 turnovers all by himself. With 1 (should of been both) of the fumbles returned for Touchdowns.

Even with his bad play he still had a chance to win the game at the end. What did he due? Threw 2 ducks to Willis behind the LOS and 1 duck 10 yards out of bounds. GAME OVER.

JP was a very small part of it. The first fumble resulted in NO points for the JETS. had our HC been worth a damn he challenges the return on the 2nd and we might hold them to 3 instead of giving them 7.

And thanks again for proving my point. Eli and Ben HAVE had much more time to have good or bad games. So cut JP a break and STFU while the TEAM rebuilds.

[ICE74129]

jp had some of the best numbers of all the qbs in the nfl today. he was number 3 in fantasy scoring.

jp did not lose this game for us.. he had one fumble he should have protected the ball better on.. and an awful attempt at a block by mcgahee caused one turnover, but the defense getting picked apart by pennington is the reason we lost.

And the one to Vilma he was trying to throw the ball away. Look we have about 4 clowns that are intentionally trying to keep the board stirred up and pissed off by spewing pure stupidity. I wish the mods would finally ban them so we can have some good conversations here.

[TacklingDummy]

And the one to Vilma he was trying to throw the ball away. Look we have about 4 clowns that are intentionally trying to keep the board stirred up and pissed off by spewing pure stupidity. I wish the mods would finally ban them so we can have some good conversations here.

YOU CAN'T HANDLE ME BANNED.

I know deep down in places you dont talk about on here, you don't want me on the board, YOU NEED ME ON THIS BOARD. I use words like bust, RJ Clone, pocket awareness. I use these words as the backbone of a life spent bashing something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who thinks he knows it all and who can't handle being a Pop Warner coach. I prefer you said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you STFU and stop acting like your a Mod. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are .


You *****' people. You have no idea how to run a football team. All you did was weaken the Bills today, Icey. That's all you did. You people live in fantasy land. Sweet dreams, son.

[ICE74129]

YOU CAN'T HANDLE ME BANNED.

I know deep down in places you dont talk about on here, you don't want me on the board, YOU NEED ME ON THIS BOARD. I use words like bust, RJ Clone, pocket awareness. I use these words as the backbone of a life spent bashing something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who thinks he knows it all and who can't handle being a Pop Warner. I prefer you said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you STFU and stop acting like your a Mod. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are .


You *****' people. You have no idea how to run a football team. All you did was weaken a Bills today, Icey. That's all you did. You put people live in fantasy land. Sweet dreams, son.

Someone please ban this spammer already.

[LABillsFan]

:popcorn:

[TacklingDummy]

Someone please ban this spammer already.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

That's a FACT Jack.

[Nighthawk]

Let me state this one more time...JP DID NOT LOSE THE GAME FOR THE BILLS! Holy crap! People complain when he throws for 80 yards and wins and people complain when he throws for 300yds. What the hell do you want from the kid?

[DraftBoy]

If either one of you two dont start playing nice you'll both be taking a nice paid vacation by me. Are we clear?

As for this thread, Ice there is a flaw in your argument when comparing Big Ben to JP. Big Ben is established and has ring, JP is not and does not. Eli has always blown chunks and will always blow chunks so comparing JP to him is doing more harm than good.

[TacklingDummy]

If either one of you two dont start playing nice you'll both be taking a nice paid vacation by me. Are we clear?

.

Obviously my post was a joke. Its not my fault someone can't take a joke.

Love that part in A Few Good Men.

[ublinkwescore]

Someone please ban this spammer already.

:clap:

[ICE74129]

If either one of you two dont start playing nice you'll both be taking a nice paid vacation by me. Are we clear?

As for this thread, Ice there is a flaw in your argument when comparing Big Ben to JP. Big Ben is established and has ring, JP is not and does not. Eli has always blown chunks and will always blow chunks so comparing JP to him is doing more harm than good.

But all we have heard is how He was a GOD coming out.

[ICE74129]

:clap: I wish they would already

[HHURRICANE]

Let me state this one more time...JP DID NOT LOSE THE GAME FOR THE BILLS! Holy crap! People complain when he throws for 80 yards and wins and people complain when he throws for 300yds. What the hell do you want from the kid?

As much as I am rooting for JP he made his share of mistakes.

We execute an onsides kick and have 1:15 on the clock and a timeout on our 45 yard line. JP not once, but twice, overthrows Mcgahee. Than on 4th down throws a wounded duck OB that most likely would have been caught short of the marker anyway.

JP's pass into double coverage was horrible. He would have had 2 picks if not for Peerless taking a pass int. penalty to prevent another pick. He can't feel the pass rush either.

No, JP has some ownership in this loss.

[ICE74129]

As much as I am rooting for JP he made his share of mistakes.

We execute an onsides kick and have 1:15 on the clock and a timeout on our 45 yard line. JP not once, but twice, overthrows Mcgahee. Than on 4th down throws a wounded duck OB that most likely would have been caught short of the marker anyway.

JP's pass into double coverage was horrible. He would have had 2 picks if not for Peerless taking a pass int. penalty to prevent another pick. He can't feel the pass rush either.

No, JP has some ownership in this loss.

Really? any comments on peerless aligator arming the deep ball that should have been a catch on the 2nd possession? Yeah the screens had issues but the wind seemed to cause issues with the lofted passes.

BTW anyone want to comment on the rocket shot into the wind in the 2nd? It was an over throw but DAMN! What a pass

[HHURRICANE]

Really? any comments on peerless aligator arming the deep ball that should have been a catch on the 2nd possession? Yeah the screens had issues but the wind seemed to cause issues with the lofted passes.

BTW anyone want to comment on the rocket shot into the wind in the 2nd? It was an over throw but DAMN! What a pass

Dude, you guaranteed a win after I warned us about a loss. I think I can judge pretty objectively if our QB played well or not. He didn't.

[HHURRICANE]

Dude, you guaranteed a win after I warned us about a loss. I think I can judge pretty objectively if our QB played well or not. He didn't.

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[ICE74129]

Dude, you guaranteed a win after I warned us about a loss. I think I can judge pretty objectively if our QB played well or not. He didn't.

Then actually put up an objective post. JP had a career game in spite of crappy blocking and bad playcalling. He made some mistakes but most QB's make a few during a game.

And you bet your ass I guaranteed a win. We should have had one too. I didn't know we couldn't tackle and willis would just allow guys to kill JP

[jomat61]

I think the comparison to Ben and Eli is a good one. These guys are all out of the same draft class, and while both are obviously on superior teams you see them make same kind of mistakes JP makes when its their turn to have to win a game by themselves. When they have a lead and can rely on their stellar running games and have 10-15 attempts a game they can all look great. When they have to make more pass attempts their likelihood of making a bad decisions also increase. All three of these guys can make awesome plays, (Eli in the comeback against Philly last week). JP made some sick, Farve-like plays yesterday in and out of the pocket. Stick with him.....make him a Bill for life.

[ICE74129]

I think the comparison to Ben and Eli is a good one. These guys are all out of the same draft class, and while both are obviously on superior teams you see them make same kind of mistakes JP makes when its their turn to have to win a game by themselves. When they have a lead and can rely on their stellar running games and have 10-15 attempts a game they can all look great. When they have to make more pass attempts their likelihood of making a bad decisions also increase. All three of these guys can make awesome plays, (Eli in the comeback against Philly last week). JP made some sick, Farve-like plays yesterday in and out of the pocket. Stick with him.....make him a Bill for life.

I like it you brought up the FACT that neither JP, nor Ben, nor Eli has really put the team on their shoulders and led them with the game on the line consistantly.

[Tatonka]

YOU CAN'T HANDLE ME BANNED.

I know deep down in places you dont talk about on here, you don't want me on the board, YOU NEED ME ON THIS BOARD. I use words like bust, RJ Clone, pocket awareness. I use these words as the backbone of a life spent bashing something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who thinks he knows it all and who can't handle being a Pop Warner coach. I prefer you said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you STFU and stop acting like your a Mod. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are .


You *****' people. You have no idea how to run a football team. All you did was weaken the Bills today, Icey. That's all you did. You people live in fantasy land. Sweet dreams, son.

I think your posts suck, but that was hilarious. very well done.