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RedEyE

10-15-2006, 08:56 AM

Did anyone know this? It's certainly news to me and I grew up in Tonawanda:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonawanda_Kardex

The Tonawanda Kardex of the American Professional Football Association (later named the National Football League (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League)) played only one season -- in fact, just one game, a 45-0 loss to the Rochester Jeffersons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochester_Jeffersons) -- in the league, in 1921 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1921_NFL_season). The NFL record book lists the team as the "Tonawanda Kardex" (named for, and possibly sponsored by, the office-supply company, which is still in business to this day [1] (http://www.kardex.com/)]); however, other sources also give the team the nickname (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickname) "Lumbermen". The team was based in Tonawanda, New York (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonawanda%2C_New_York), near Buffalo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo%2C_New_York). They played at Lumbermen Stadium in Tonawanda.

RedEyE

10-15-2006, 08:59 AM

Before unlimited substitution was allowed, many players played on both sides of the ball. Offensive backs generally played defensive back, although some blocking backs played linebacker. Offensive linemen generally played on the defensive line or at linebacker. Players below are listed only by their primary position.

Backnor, C
Fred Brumm, T
Cassidy, BB
Art Georke, E
Clarence Hosmer, G
Rudy Kraft, G
George Kuhrt, T
Buck MacDonald, G
Tom McLaughlin, FB
Bill Meisner, WB
Frank Primeau, BB
Tam Rose, TB
William Sanborn, E
Charles Tallman, T
Red Werder, C

YardRat

10-15-2006, 09:40 AM

Very cool. Tam Rose was also the head coach...

http://www.hickoksports.com/history/tonawanda.shtml

In its second season of operation, the American Professional Football Association added eight teams, including three that would play all their games on the road. One of those three was a team from Tonawanda, New York, which is located between Buffalo and Niagara Falls.

The team is usually called the Kardex, because it was sponsored by a company with that name, but it was also known as the Lumbermen.

Tonawanda opened the season on October 9 with a scoreless tie against a non-league team from Syracuse. The team didn't play again until November 6, losing to the Rochester Jeffersons, 45-0. That was the only league game in the brief history of the franchise.

Dozerdog

10-15-2006, 09:47 AM

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Yeah- once while serching helmet logos, I came across our stripey on an old leather helmet.

I posted about it.

RedEyE

10-15-2006, 10:20 AM

News to me. Pretty cool.

Dozerdog

10-15-2006, 10:44 AM

My favorite quote on why the Kardex played only one game

45-0!! They were like, F this...

:rofl:

That really surprises me about the logo, whoever created it was ahead of their time - looks very modern.

RedEyE

10-15-2006, 11:10 AM

:lol:

RedEyE

10-15-2006, 11:11 AM

What does the logo look like?

Dozerdog

10-15-2006, 11:21 AM

It was the modernday stripey on an old leather helmet. But it wasn't authentic.

I found it on a football helmet website that had thousands of NFL, CFL, USFL, WFL, AFL, AAFL, NCAA, and XFL helmet designs.

Kardex, like everyone else in the 1920's didn't have a logo. So the artist did a conceptual design- he put today's charging buffalo with a stripe (stripey) on an old leather helmet.

At first, we thought it was authentic until I e-mailed the artist and he set us straight.