JP Contoversy to end soon.

[HHURRICANE]

Let's reach a compromise on these ridiculous debates every week. JP has officially started 13 games. I believe that he should get 3 more starts before we start officially critiquing his play. That's 16 games for him to shed his "rookie" tag and consider his time on the field relevant.

FOR YOU FOLKS WHO CAN'T READ I DIDN"T SAY PULL HIM AFTER 3 MORE GAMES!!!!!!

In fairness JP has the ****tiest touch pass right now. He almost got Willis killed today. He made one INT but it was brutal. I am taking the gloves off after 3 more games and calling the way I see it. Our OL isn't helping him. It's hard for a young QB to get a rythm when you can't trust your protection and the running game isn't taking pressure off of you.

[Iehoshua]

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In fairness JP has the ****tiest touch pass right now. He almost got Willis killed today.

Definitely agree here. Willis probably stayed down since he didn't wanna jump up and slap the taste out of JPs mouth for such a horrific pass.

[X-Era]

Re: JP Contoversy to end soon.

Let's reach a compromise on these ridiculous debates every week. JP has officially started 13 games. I believe that he should get 3 more starts before we start officially critiquing his play. That's 16 games for him to shed his "rookie" tag and consider his time on the field relevant.

FOR YOU FOLKS WHO CAN'T READ I DIDN"T SAY PULL HIM AFTER 3 MORE GAMES!!!!!!

In fairness JP has the ****tiest touch pass right now. He almost got Willis killed today. He made one INT but it was brutal. I am taking the gloves off after 3 more games and calling the way I see it. Our OL isn't helping him. It's hard for a young QB to get a rythm when you can't trust your protection and the running game isn't taking pressure off of you.

This will be a QB with plenty of talent that was mis-managed, and didnt have enough talent at any other position to help him.

This is a guy who will be run out of town, its starting to happen.

I cant be more frustrated right now, this team is headed back into the crapper fast. We may have the right players at some spots including QB, but the lack of overall talent will run them right out of town. Coaching at issue? yes. GM at issue? yes. Owner at issue? yes.

But unfortunately, the QB gets blasted. I think his attitude is the right one, he has the talent, but he cant do squat unless he gets help. And then the dummys will bury him and blame him for everything.

Allowing all teams to run on you is a great way to lose games. And then the icing on the cake is when you cant run yourself. THAT above all else will DESTROY any chance you have to be good.

[DraftBoy]

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This will be a QB with plenty of talent that was mis-managed, and didnt have enough talent at any other position to help him.

This is a guy who will be run out of town, its starting to happen.

Well then all we can say is;

Nana na na, Nana na na, hey hey hey, goodbye!

[YardRat]

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I don't care if he's rookie starting his first game or a seasoned vet with a SB ring...he ****s up, I'm calling him on it.

[DraftBoy]

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Btw Good post Hurricane, I was calling for this since before the season began.

[Michael82]

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I will give him until his 20th start (7 more games) until I will start critiquing his play and having doubts about him as the starter. And just like you, I want him to start the whole season...no matter what!

[X-Era]

Re: JP Contoversy to end soon.

Let's reach a compromise on these ridiculous debates every week. JP has officially started 13 games. I believe that he should get 3 more starts before we start officially critiquing his play. That's 16 games for him to shed his "rookie" tag and consider his time on the field relevant.

FOR YOU FOLKS WHO CAN'T READ I DIDN"T SAY PULL HIM AFTER 3 MORE GAMES!!!!!!

In fairness JP has the ****tiest touch pass right now. He almost got Willis killed today. He made one INT but it was brutal. I am taking the gloves off after 3 more games and calling the way I see it. Our OL isn't helping him. It's hard for a young QB to get a rythm when you can't trust your protection and the running game isn't taking pressure off of you.

Have the gloves ever been "on" around here?

If you or anyone else wants to hammer him, have at it.

JP didnt lose this game or any other for that matter. But many fans think the wins ride on the QB, rather than fight that mentality, I simply say fine and play along.

Even if JP lost this game, he gets the season. Peyton was 3 and 13. I want a FULL season, period. Maybe JP takes more than one disgrace to get clued in. Maybe it takes a few games. I dont care if he blows another 5 or the rest of the season, it will only make our decisions about him easier. If fans want to complain, have at it.

If we were smart, we would find a way to run the ball, and stop the run, that way we wouldnt be counting on JP to win the game most of the time.

[X-Era]

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I will give him until his 20th start (7 more games) until I will start critiquing his play and having doubts about him as the starter. And just like you, I want him to start the whole season...no matter what!

On my first positive note since this loss, a terrible season means a VERY high draft pick and there are guys that may drastically improve this team.

Gaines Adams
Calvin Johnson
Adrian Peterson
Joe Thomas

to name a few

It takes a high pick or it takes balls to get players who can make a difference, so far we have been pretty ball-less.

[ScottLawrence]

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I will give him until his 20th start (7 more games) until I will start critiquing his play and having doubts about him as the starter. And just like you, I want him to start the whole season...no matter what!

His 20th start?

Theres no need, on the football field this guys Rob Johnson all over again.

Im sure Jauron and co will stick with him all year, and come March will be looking for a quarterback.

[justasportsfan]

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JP finishes the season. No if's and buts about it. Yes, he was rattled in the first half. A lot of qb's are like that when their OL isn't protecting them. Once he had time, he played so much better.

[X-Era]

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His 20th start?

Theres no need, on the football field this guys Rob Johnson all over again.

Im sure Jauron and co will stick with him all year, and come March will be looking for a quarterback.

Thats fantastic!

Maybe we can NOT sign guys like Drew Brees this next offseason too.

Hell, in a few more years we can NOT be playoff bound again!

Maybe we can NOT move up in the draft and take a franchise propsect at QB too.

By the way, there is NO QB worth a top 5 or even 10 pick in this draft. So our timing is great too.

Hey, maybe we could follow a few of our posters ideas and find Jeff Blake, hes gotta be at some local McDonalds.

[Michael82]

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On my first positive note since this loss, a terrible season means a VERY high draft pick and there are guys that may drastically improve this team.

Calvin Johnson
Adrian Peterson

to name a few

It takes a high pick or it takes balls to get players who can make a difference, so far we have been pretty ball-less.

Okay Tom Donahoe....draft some more WRs and RBs... Yeah, thats what we need.

It's all about the ****ing OL and DL!

[X-Era]

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Okay Tom Donahoe....draft some more WRs and RBs... Yeah, thats what we need.

It's all about the ****ing OL and DL!

Whoa, you wont find me saying we dont need OL or DL. I COMPLETELY agree. Unfortunately, we need playmakers as well.

If you notice, your criticism is way off base, I mentioned both DL and OL there. Calvin Johnson is a once in 5 years type WR, I dont care WHO we might get, that guy helps us right now.

Many here, including myself, are questioning just what type of RB McGahee is. He hasnt exactly carried this team and has not had even one long TD run, furthermore he is missing too many blocks. Im not sure we are set at RB yet.

Although we need OL and DL, we need alot more too in my opinion

[DraftBoy]

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Whoa, you wont find me saying we dont need OL or DL. I COMPLETELY agree. Unfortunately, we need playmakers as well.

If you notice, your criticism is way off base, I mentioned both DL and OL there. Calvin Johnson is a once in 5 years type WR, I dont care WHO we might get, that guy helps us right now.

Many here, including myself, are questioning just what type of RB McGahee is. He hasnt exactly carried this team and has not had even one long TD run, furthermore he is missing too many blocks. Im not sure we are set at RB yet.

Although we need OL and DL, we need alot more too in my opinion

Calvin Johnson is a once in a decade type player, YOU NEVER PASS ON THIS KIND OF A PLAYER! However our top need is OL and DL, and I dont see us picking in the top 3 where he will be selected so I dont think we'll take him. I think the ideal situation may be to trade down from our high teen spot we are looking at right now and move down with the good low 1st round depth in round 1 on the lines like Joe Thomas, Jake Long, Ryan Harris, Gaines Adams, Quentin Moses (this is of course all up in the air till post season workouts and overall grades get hammered out). Or we could deal down and get a true #2 WR like Rice, Smardzija, Jarrett, the go OL and DL the next 3 rounds. Ideally two 1st round picks would be optimal.