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  • Yasgur's Farm
    Moderator
    • Feb 2005
    • 7091

    For Those Too Blind...

    ... or filled with too much hate to see JP's steady progress.

    I've broken down JP's 15 games (where he's seen significant playing time) into 3 blocks of 5 games.

    1-5... 110 A, 54 C, 49.1%, 114 YDS/G, 5.2 YDS/A, 3 TD, 2 INT, 2 F, 66.1 PR
    6-10... 141 A, 74 C, 52.5%, 186.8 YDS/G, 6.6 YDS/A, 5 TD, 6 INT, 5 F, 67.5 PR
    11-15... 149 A, 91 C, 61.1%, 191.4 YDS/G, 6.4 YDS/A, 6 TD, 5 INT, 4 F, 79.2 PR

    Let's see you Moe Rons spin this!!!
  • OpIv37
    Acid Douching Asswipe
    • Sep 2002
    • 101342

    #2
    Re: For Those Too Blind...

    He's improving in some ways but not in others. He still doesn't protect the ball well, he takes bad sacks trying to scramble, and he doesn't always feel the pressure (ie he holds the ball too long).

    Generally I stick up for JP and there is no doubt that he's had his good moments this year, but against the Bears and in the first half yesterday he looked every bit as bad as he was last year. I'm getting frustrated by the fact that he's still making so many "inexperience" type mistakes.

    But I said at the beginning of the year that he has this season to prove his worth and I stand by that. There's 10 games left and barring injury, he should play them all. That will give him 25 starts and we should have a pretty damn good idea what he's worth.
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    • BillsNick
      Registered User
      • Jul 2003
      • 3898

      #3
      Re: For Those Too Blind...

      He's young. He's gonna make mistakes. He is getting better.

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      • HHURRICANE
        Registered User
        • Mar 2005
        • 15490

        #4
        Re: For Those Too Blind...

        He's got alot of improving left to do but I'm not ready to waste yet another pick/signing on another QB. We have way more pressing needs!!

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        • ICE74129
          Legendary Zoner
          • Feb 2005
          • 10796

          #5
          Re: For Those Too Blind...

          At some point fans will get it takes TIME for any QB to get it. Hell rothlesburger still looks like **** this year without the same TEAM around him he had his first two years.

          TIME is the only thing that will fix whats left to fix with JP

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          • patmoran2006
            Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
            • Dec 2005
            • 19840

            #6
            Re: For Those Too Blind...

            You forgot to add numbers like Sacks.....yards lost on sacks.... and most importantly, fumbles and tunnel vision interceptions.


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            • alohabillsfan
              Registered User
              • Sep 2003
              • 3206

              #7
              Re: For Those Too Blind...

              Originally posted by patmoran2006
              You forgot to add numbers like Sacks.....yards lost on sacks.... and most importantly, fumbles and tunnel vision interceptions.

              You also forgot that he already has matched total number of victories in games started last year and is on pace to win atl east 2 more this year!!!

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              • Yasgur's Farm
                Moderator
                • Feb 2005
                • 7091

                #8
                Re: For Those Too Blind...

                Originally posted by patmoran2006
                You forgot to add numbers like Sacks.....yards lost on sacks.... and most importantly, fumbles and tunnel vision interceptions.
                Feel free to post your own research... Ohhh... I forgot... It's much easier to imply your point than to actually back it up.

                If you look... INT's and fumbles are included.

                As for sacks...
                1-5... 11
                6-10... 18
                11-15... 16

                Would you like a comparison to Bledsoe's 1st 15 games?

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                • OpIv37
                  Acid Douching Asswipe
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 101342

                  #9
                  Re: For Those Too Blind...

                  Originally posted by draz54
                  Feel free to post your own research... Ohhh... I forgot... It's much easier to imply your point than to actually back it up.

                  If you look... INT's and fumbles are included.
                  you're kinda missing the point- sometimes it's not numbers but HOW they happened.

                  Example: It's one thing if an INT goes off a receiver's hands to a waiting defender. It's another thing if JP never looks off the DB and focuses on the intended receiver for the whole play and gets picked off. That's the kind of rookie mistake he shouldn't be making at this point, but still is.
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                  • Yasgur's Farm
                    Moderator
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 7091

                    #10
                    Re: For Those Too Blind...

                    Originally posted by OpIv37
                    That's the kind of rookie mistake he shouldn't be making at this point, but still is.
                    See 14 year veteran (and some say future HOFer) Drew Bledsoe.

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                    • OpIv37
                      Acid Douching Asswipe
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 101342

                      #11
                      Re: For Those Too Blind...

                      Originally posted by draz54
                      See 14 year veteran (and some say future HOFer) Drew Bledsoe.
                      well, there's a reason we got rid of Bledsoe...
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                      • Yasgur's Farm
                        Moderator
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 7091

                        #12
                        Re: For Those Too Blind...

                        Originally posted by OpIv37
                        well, there's a reason we got rid of Bledsoe...
                        Exactly... he performed like a 15 game starter.

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                        • ICE74129
                          Legendary Zoner
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 10796

                          #13
                          Re: For Those Too Blind...

                          Originally posted by draz54
                          Exactly... he performed like a 15 game starter.
                          while being in the league 10 years

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                          • patmoran2006
                            Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 19840

                            #14
                            Re: For Those Too Blind...

                            Losman's sack rate is even HIGHER than Bledsoe when he was a Bill for those three seasons, and the line was NO better when bledsoe was here either.


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                            • patmoran2006
                              Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 19840

                              #15
                              Re: For Those Too Blind...

                              But let me make this clear.
                              I DONT BLAME all of this **** on Losman, I think Fairchild has done a HORRIBLE job of not structuring an offense that plays to Losman's strength, like rolling out of the pocket on designed plays more often and making the defense think that this kid can beat you with his arms AND his legs...

                              Losman isnt, wont and will never be a very good Petyon Manning style pocket quarterback.. He needs to get out more and make more plays on the run, ala the Parrish bomb Sunday..

                              This is as much on Fairchild as ANYONE.


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