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  • patmoran2006
    Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
    • Dec 2005
    • 19840

    Some Bills Salary & Financial Information

    Here is some Buffalo Bills salary information I have been researching.

    • Wide Receiver: Andre Davis (along with Peerless Price) has the highest base salary of any of the Bills wide receivers this year with a salary of 800 grand. Now that doesn’t sound like a lot of money (he didn’t get a signing bonus), but that’s 800 grand for a guy who doesn’t have a SINGLE catch the entire season. By comparison, Lee Evans’ base salary is only 542 grand. Next year his base salary is only scheduled to be $773,750. That has holdout written all over it. In contrast, Peerless Price will make 1.6 million while Josh Reed will make 1.65 million next year. Price’s cap figure is going to be around $2.4 million next year, while Reed’s will be around $2.2 million... There is NO WAY we are keeping both of them next year with Roscoe Parrish still in the mix, this could Price’s only season with Buffalo. No team with a brain keeps a fourth receiver at a cap figure over $2 million.
    • Running Back: If there is ONE thing you can count on, its that Willis McGahee will either get his contract redone after the season or hold out next year. He’s only tabbed to make 905 grand next year, the final year of his contract and assuming he goes well over 1,000 yards again for a third straight year there is no way he’s playing for that salary next year, plain and simple.
    • Quarterback: This is one spot that really makes me sick. Craig Nall is the third string quarterback, so 600K isn’t a bad salary this year. Next year however, his salary goes up to $1.1 million. Factor in his $1.3 million signing bonus and his cap number will be around $1.5 million next year.. That’s ABSURD for a third stringer. In the meantime, Holcomb is scheduled to make $1.23 million. You can bet the house he’ll be gone, even though the cap savings wont equate to that much. Put it this way, if we eat $1.5 million for Nall by cutting him when he doesn’t play a down, it will show how clueless Marv is as a GM.
    • Offensive line: Melvin Fowler is scheduled to make the most base salary of any linemen next year at $1.75 million. I think we’re stuck with him, even though I think he’s too small and gets pushed around. Peters’ base is $1.5 million, a bargain especially if he moves to the left side. Gandy will be a free agent, and I highly doubt he’ll be back (thank God). Tutan Reyes is worth $1.0 million, even though I think he should be on the right side not the left. Duke Preston has value at only $385 grand, while you can say “see ya” to Villarrial and his $1.45 million salary next year. Overall, this is a low paid offensive line, the only figure that bothers me is Fowler—I don’t think he’ll be cut after one season, and $1.75 million is far too high for a backup. So financially speaking, I think we can forget about finding a new starting center next year.
    • Tight Ends: Royal is scheduled to earn $1.3 million next year ($1.9 cap figure), not too bad a bad price but then again Royal isn’t really a productive player. Kevin Everett only has a base of $385 grand so he’ll be back. If the opportunity arises and the cap room is there, I’d like to see us go after a pass catching threat like Daniel Graham or Jeremey Stevens.
    • Defensive End: This is a very tricky spot. Ryan Denney was brought back and given a severly backloaded contract. He’s playing for only $600 grand this year and has been a huge bargain. But next year his base salary jumps up to $1.9 million. If he’s back next year at that salary it shows you everything that is wrong with his organization. Denney is a quality backup and a borderline starter, but there is NO way he’s worth that kind of money. He could be one and done after this year unless Buffalo rips up that deal and negotiates a new one. Aaron Schobel will earn $2.5 million in base salary next year and surely will be back. Tony Hargrove was just traded for and his salary this year is only $425 grand. HE’s a free agent however after this year so if he plays well it will cost some money to keep him. Kelsay is a free agent and I doubt (hope not) that he will be back. This team clearly needs an impact defensive end. Schobel is a quality end but not good enough to anchor a defensive line. This spot along with DT and LT should be the top three priorities next season.
    • Defensive Tackle: The bad news is this unit is awful right now. The good news is they are being paid awful. Kyle Williams and John McCargo both have bases of only $360 grand next year. Obviously they’ll both be back. To this point, Tripplett has done absolutely nothing to earn the $1.69 million base he will next year (not counting bonus money going towards that cap figure- which brings his cap number to around $2.8 million/ he got a $5.5 million signing bonus), but there is no way Marv is going to give up on on him after only one year, he’ll be back. Either via Free Agency or the early part of the draft, its almost certain (if they have any brains) that a defensive tackle will be brought in to start alongside Tripplett while Williams and McCargo provide quality depth. As putrid as this unit is right now, the positive is that they are only one quality run stuffing DT away from having a nice unit. Tim Anderson is not signed through next year and Im gonna go on a limb and say he won’t be back next year.. or ever again.
    • Linebackers: London Fletcher will be a free agent next year. His base this year is $4 million. People will be divided on if we should try to resign him. My opinion is we should, he’s one of the few solid vets on this team and he still has some good football left in him. Takeo Spikes will earn $4.5 in base salary next year and his cap number will be over $5.5 million. We need to see how far he comes along between now and season’s end before making and decisions. I’d like to see him back and hope he gets close to 100% because he’s one of the top 10 LB’s in the NFL when he’s at top speed. Surely, his return is iffy. Angelo Crowell and his $1.19 million salary next year is an absolute steal (his cap number is around $1.8 million). The rest of the backups all make modest salaries.
    • Cornerback: Nate Clements makes $7.23 million this year and will be a free agent at the end of the season. At that salary, don’t let the door hit you in the ass. He’s gone. Once he leaves, we’ll only have two corners under contract next year; Terrence McGee and Ashton Youboty. Jabrari Greer and Kiwaukee Thomas will both be free agents. Maybe one of them will be brought back to compete for a corner spot, unless we determine Youboty isn’t ready to start, in which case we’d need a new starting cornerback. McGee better get better, because with the trenches being our top priority it’s almost certain he’ll be counted on to be the top corner next season.
    • Safety: Matt Bowen and his $800 grand salary this year ($950 grand against the cap) has been a total waste; injured or not. Hopefully his $1.25 cap hit next year won’t be. Coy Wire will be a free agent after this year and I highly doubt we’ll bring him back when Bowens is a good special teamer; unless Marv is senile enough to pay a pair of special teamers that much of a salary. Obviously we’re in great shape the rest of the way here as Whitner and Simpson will make only pennies ($360 grand each) as their base salaries next season.. Whitner’s contract is more tricky as he has a huge option bonus payable for 2007, which Buffalo will obviously pay…. Jim Leonhard only makes $435 grand next year (no signing bonus) and can stick around as the fourth safety.

    Summary: London Fletcher, Nate Clements and Chris Kelsay are the three big free agents. Realistically, I think only Fletcher may be brought back. Clements is a goner for sure and with Kelsay, I think its time for more of an impact starter on the other side of Schobel. Tim Anderson and Mike Gandy are also free agents, and does anyone really care?

    Takeo Spikes could be a cap victim depending on how he looks the second half of the season. Between Nall and Holcomb, one of them will certainly be gone as well, as only an idiot would keep three quarterbacks making over a million dollars each. (For the record, Losman’s base next year is only $550 grand). Chris Villiarrial will almost certainly be cut as well.

    Lastly, don’t be surprised if Lee Evans wants a new deal, and you can COUNT on Willis McGahee wanting one.

    And only McGahee and Tutan Reyes are the current starters who will be free agents in 2008.. So THIS coming off-season is a real key into the direction of this team.


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  • Dont drink the water
    Registered User
    • Oct 2005
    • 587

    #2
    Re: Some Bills Salary & Financial Information

    Hard to judge Davis for the entire season when he has played only ffour games. And catches are not all that is involved with game especially for special teams players. It ios like juding Evans for number of blocked punts he recovered for entire season.

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    • Jeff1220
      H to the 12:20
      • Jul 2002
      • 6137

      #3
      Re: Some Bills Salary & Financial Information

      Davis's contract might be front loaded, so he can be let go after the season w/minimal cap consequences.

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      • patmoran2006
        Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
        • Dec 2005
        • 19840

        #4
        Re: Some Bills Salary & Financial Information

        Originally posted by Jeff1220
        Davis's contract might be front loaded, so he can be let go after the season w/minimal cap consequences.
        Davis can be let go with ZERO consequences because he doesnt have a signing bonus prorated towards next year.

        Who cares about Andre Davis though, there are far more important player salaries and situations to discuss.


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        • Dr. Lecter
          Zero for Zero!
          • Mar 2003
          • 67946

          #5
          Re: Some Bills Salary & Financial Information

          The chances of Evans wanting a new deal are next to zero. He will want to wait to be an UFA.
          Originally posted by mysticsoto
          Lecter is right in everything he said.

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          • patmoran2006
            Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
            • Dec 2005
            • 19840

            #6
            Re: Some Bills Salary & Financial Information

            Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
            The chances of Evans wanting a new deal are next to zero. He will want to wait to be an UFA.
            you catch 90-95 passes and then come back the next season and want to be paid about a half million dollars..

            And he's signed through 2009, which means he wont be a free agent for another three years, AFTER this year is over.


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            • alohabillsfan
              Registered User
              • Sep 2003
              • 3206

              #7
              Re: Some Bills Salary & Financial Information

              Originally posted by patmoran2006
              you catch 90-95 passes and then come back the next season and want to be paid about a half million dollars..

              And he's signed through 2009, which means he wont be a free agent for another three years, AFTER this year is over.
              I believe he has earned somewhat of a raise.

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              • Earthquake Enyart
                Legendary Zoner
                • Jul 2002
                • 27521

                #8
                Re: Some Bills Salary & Financial Information

                We need to see Davis for at least 14 games before we can decide.

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                • TacklingDummy
                  Unreachable Douche
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 71725

                  #9
                  Re: Some Bills Salary & Financial Information

                  Originally posted by patmoran2006
                  And he's signed through 2009, which means he wont be a free agent for another three years, AFTER this year is over.
                  From a players point of view I could see Lee holding out.

                  Will we hear the trade his ass for draft picks when he does?

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                  • Jan Reimers
                    Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
                    • May 2003
                    • 17353

                    #10
                    Re: Some Bills Salary & Financial Information

                    I may be in the minority, but I wouldn't bring Fletcher back - unless he's willing to work for less than $4M, which seems unlikely. I like Fletch, but this year makes 9 seasons of constant pounding, and he will be 32 next May. I really don't see him as the highly productive player he once was.

                    Likewise, Spikes will have to improve markedly from where he is now to warrant a Cap number of $5.5M next year.

                    The $9-10M we save on Fletch and TKO might just buy us a couple of younger, healthier LBs, and a lineman or two besides.

                    To paraphrase the old Branch Rickey to Ralph Kiner line, "We lost 11 games with you, we can certainly lose 11 games without you."
                    Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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                    • patmoran2006
                      Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 19840

                      #11
                      Re: Some Bills Salary & Financial Information

                      well one thing is for certain.. The job levy does in year #2 of free agency and the draft will show what kind of GM he is, and how this team will be for the next 3-5 years.. He has this year at the helm to feel out the team and add some players.. next season is the true test.


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                      • Kerr
                        Hall of Fame Zoner
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 6656

                        #12
                        Re: Some Bills Salary & Financial Information

                        Davis is only a role player. 4th receiver at best. A former #1 pick, he's been a bust and, if you're lucky will one 2 to 3 big plays in a season. Ask Tom Brady. I'm dissapointed he didn't take advantage of the opportunity to prove he was no longer a 1st round bust.


                        I agree with Pat, fletcher will likely be the only one brought back out him, clements and kelsay. If Hargrove ends up establishing himself as a solid player, he would make signing kelsay that much irrelevant.

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                        • patmoran2006
                          Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 19840

                          #13
                          Re: Some Bills Salary & Financial Information

                          Hargrove is in final year of his deal as well.


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                          • Michael82
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 82328

                            #14
                            Re: Some Bills Salary & Financial Information

                            Originally posted by Jeff1220
                            Davis's contract might be front loaded, so he can be let go after the season w/minimal cap consequences.
                            I could have sworn that Andre Davis was signed to only a 1-year deal anyways.

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                            • Typ0
                              honey pie
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 32593

                              #15
                              Re: Some Bills Salary & Financial Information

                              I think we're screwed as long as RW is alive and ML is GM. Both of those guys are old school and all they want to do is recreate the olden days. The league has changed and they are too old to adapt. I hope I'm wrong but fear I'm not and this thread is supportive of my theory.

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