Jauron see's Losmans Development.

[justasportsfan]

http://www.buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=4285

[The_Philster]

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Nice read...and it's nice to see Jauron is backing him....something a developing QB has to have in order to succeed

[GFLuNEEDit]

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Dont put too much stock in it.

What else would he say ?
He'll keep trying to encourage him until he has it reaches a point where he has to yank him.

[Inetpub]

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He's not the quarterback he wants to be, he's not the quarterback we need him to be. But he's building on it and I like this guy. And our players buy into him too because he's a real guy, a tough guy.

Sums it up right there. Atleast the guys are starting to buy into him. Im not sold yet though. Only thing is Nice guys dont finish first in the NFL if they cant win. I like the part where Dickie says hes not the QB we need him to be. For all you nuthuggers out there, we atleast Dick will acknowledge JP sucks at the moment. But he also recognizes that hes got ALOT of learning to do.

"That doesn't mean I think he's played all good games. I don't. I know he thinks he hasn't played all good games. But I do think the bad things that have happened to him he's learning from and he's going to get better. He's getting better. And it matters to him and means a lot to him. I think he's going to be a good quarterback. It's just going to take a little time. I don't know how much time. Hopefully it happens this weekend."

Also a good quote but THIS WEEKEND? I didnt know it was just a lightswitch that would turn on in JP's head. This weekend is abit of a streeeetch. Otherwise I would have turned on his lightswitch 3 years ago when he came into the NFL.
Overall, Good Post!

[ICE74129]

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Sums it up right there. Atleast the guys are starting to buy into him. Im not sold yet though. Only thing is Nice guys dont finish first in the NFL if they cant win. I like the part where Dickie says hes not the QB we need him to be. For all you nuthuggers out there, we atleast Dick will acknowledge JP sucks at the moment. But he also recognizes that hes got ALOT of learning to do.
Also a good quote but THIS WEEKEND? I didnt know it was just a lightswitch that would turn on in JP's head. This weekend is abit of a streeeetch. Otherwise I would have turned on his lightswitch 3 years ago when he came into the NFL.
Overall, Good Post!

Find me ONE post where ANYONE has said JP is where he needs to be.

[ICE74129]

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"Most of my answers for J.P. will be in time he's going to get a better feel for it," Jauron said. "And there aren't any other answers I don't think. Sometimes he messes it up and he'll tell you. He'll say, 'I missed the read,' or 'I was in the wrong spot and that's why I held it,' or 'I just blew it.' That doesn't happen often. Obviously some of the sacks he can't do anything about, some of them he can. The more time he plays the more he's going to feel it."

Time. Bottom line, thats what JP needs and DJ is apperantly going to give it to him. Look for JP to start next year as well. I guess the JP haters will have to find a new team.

[Inetpub]

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Obviously this post is about Dick putting confidence in JP. Tom Donohoe and Ralph obviously felt he was ready. Otherwise they wouldnt just hand him a veteran lad team only to drown in his inexperience. How well did that work?

[The_Philster]

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For all you nuthuggers out there, we atleast Dick will acknowledge JP sucks at the moment. But he also recognizes that hes got ALOT of learning to do.

putting words on the mouths of others is a form of dishonesty, you know...no one here that I've seen has said that JP doesn't need to improve still

[ICE74129]

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putting words on the mouths of others is a form of dishonesty, you know...no one here that I've seen has said that JP doesn't need to improve still

That seems to happen a lot with the JP hate crew. They have to twist stats or flat lie to try and back their beliefs.

[Inetpub]

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putting words on the mouths of others is a form of dishonesty, you know...no one here that I've seen has said that JP doesn't need to improve still

Fair. Everyone HERE says he needs to improve. Some are more tolerant than others and will wait for the lightbulb to turn on. Some want his head now. Eitherway, he needs to improve.

Funny though, I dont see him saying the OL or the D needs improving. Isnt that odd he would only say JP? Also I like his inclusion of errors JP made and he put the blame where blame belonged. Not like some on here who will say his 15 yard sack was the OL's fault.

[Inetpub]

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That seems to happen a lot with the JP hate crew. They have to twist stats or flat lie to try and back their beliefs.

Same can be said for all you nuthuggers who compare him to Farve, Young, GOD. If that isnt a lie what is.

[The_Philster]

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Fair. Everyone HERE says he needs to improve. Some are more tolerant than others and will wait for the lightbulb to turn on. Some want his head now. Eitherway, he needs to improve.

Funny though, I dont see him saying the OL or the D needs improving. Isnt that odd he would only say JP? Also I like his inclusion of errors JP made and he put the blame where blame belonged. Not like some on here who will say his 15 yard sack was the OL's fault.

the article was about JP...not the O-line...don't be a conspiracy theorist

[Risin]

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"Most of my answers for J.P. will be in time he's going to get a better feel for it," Jauron said. "And there aren't any other answers I don't think. Sometimes he messes it up and he'll tell you. He'll say, 'I missed the read,' or 'I was in the wrong spot and that's why I held it,' or 'I just blew it.' That doesn't happen often. Obviously some of the sacks he can't do anything about, some of them he can. The more time he plays the more he's going to feel it."

Time. Bottom line, thats what JP needs and DJ is apperantly going to give it to him. Look for JP to start next year as well. I guess the JP haters will have to find a new team.

What most JP bashers don't realize, he was very raw coming out of college. Matt Leinart, Philip Rivers, Big Ben and Eli Manning all were/are more polished.

Raw QB's take more time to develop, with no guarentees they will ever pan out. Players more "NFL ready" aren't as raw, but in many cases their potential ceiling is lowers than a guy like JP's.

Another example of a raw QB is Vince Young. Right now Matt Leinart looks like the real deal, while Young looks lost at times. The flip side of that coin is that in 3 years, VY might be twice the QB Leinart is. On the other hand, he might not ever reach Matt's level.

Raw QB's are a gamble. Some have worked out in the past (John Elway, Brett Favre) others have never turned into much (Cade McNown, Akili Smith, Ryan Leaf).

I love JP's athletic ability, he has the physical potential to be an absolute stud. Question is, will he pan out like Favre and Elway, or never be anything except physical talent like Rob Johnson, Todd Blackledge, Akili Smith etc.

The way he has progressed, in less then ideal conditions, from last season through this season tells me something. He has shown mad progress, enough to give me hope that he is our answer for the next 10 years.

I will give him every opportunity to succeed here, I hope other Bills fans will back this kid, just like his coach is doing. Jauron wasn't making things up here, he was critical of JP, yet acknowledged some of the good things he's done.

Great job Dick.

[Risin]

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Same can be said for all you nuthuggers who compare him to Farve, Young, GOD. If that isnt a lie what is.

He is like Favre.

He is very raw, and is a gunslinger.

To the Bills credit, they have pulled the reigns in on JP, so he isn't quite as careless as Brett was.

The comparison is in physical attributes and mentality only.

If you don't see it, you need to watch more football.

[The_Philster]

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Good points, Risin..I think the expectations should be set higher for a QB out of a place like USC...because they've a history of turning out excellent pros. Their college experiences, while not quite on par with the NFL, help them acclimate to the NFL quicker than someone out of a college like Tulane. Does this mean that a Tulane grad can't turn into something special? Hell no...but I think it's understandable that it may take longer.
So what's our answer?
We either show patience...or give up and only draft a QB from a QB factory...ignoring the possibility that we could have a QB being molded into something great already in our hands.
Course...a QB factory is no guarantee either. The U has a history of producing some excellent TEs...and Everett has yet to show us much of anything.