I don't get it!!!

[kgun12]

Most people here figured:

5-11
6-10
7-9 and some of the REAL optimisic folks thought
8-8

So my question to all the *****ing is did you think we would be any of the above record playing REALLY good football? Seriously we have a young QB learning his
3rd new offense, a horrible O-line that most of us new BEFORE the draft, that wasn't addressed! (BTW the Jets got D. Ferguson and Mangold in the draft), 5 that's FIVE rookies playing D, a whole new coaching staff for the 3rd time in 5 years, and front office.

So if your *****ing I ask why. Did you really think this season would be any different and if so why?

I have said it on this site from day 1 of it's existance, the way you win in the NFL is on the O and D lines. What have we done to make ours better!

BTW we are sitting on about $10 million dollars not spent under the cap. Hutchinson along with a good O-line draft choice or another FA would have been VERY helpful. But then again alot of you *****ing said it would have been a waste of money to bring in a couple of top flight FA linemen. Well I hope we are getting good interest on the $10 million, cause it's not doing us a damn bit of good!

Do I like what's happening NO, was it expected YES!!!

Is Holcomb the answer laughable, NO

[Novacane]

Re: I don't get it!!!

Because they raised expectations the way they played the first month. They are getting worse instead of better. Thats why

[X-Era]

Re: I don't get it!!!

Most people here figured:

5-11
6-10
7-9 and some of the REAL optimisic folks thought
8-8

So my question to all the *****ing is did you think we would be any of the above record playing REALLY good football? Seriously we have a young QB learning his
3rd new offense, a horrible O-line that most of us new BEFORE the draft, that wasn't addressed! (BTW the Jets got D. Ferguson and Mangold in the draft), 5 that's FIVE rookies playing D, a whole new coaching staff for the 3rd time in 5 years, and front office.

So if your *****ing I ask why. Did you really think this season would be any different and if so why?

I have said it on this site from day 1 of it's existance, the way you win in the NFL is on the O and D lines. What have we done to make ours better!

BTW we are sitting on about $10 million dollars not spent under the cap. Hutchinson along with a good O-line draft choice or another FA would have been VERY helpful. But then again alot of you *****ing said it would have been a waste of money to bring in a couple of top flight FA linemen. Well I hope we are getting good interest on the $10 million, cause it's not doing us a damn bit of good!

You forgot to ask why so many want to blame the whole mess on our young QB.

Your ON THE MONEY!!! There should be NO *****ing. We arent there yet, and unless we change our approach to the draft and FA we wont get there either.

[shelby]

Re: I don't get it!!!

Simply put, people love to *****.

The team played like today.

i predicted 6-10 before the season began so i am not surprised. We stood a snowball's chance in hell of having a winning season this year.

At least we have one win over the lowly Dolphins.

Go Sabres!

[Mad Bomber]

Re: I don't get it!!!

Most people here figured:

5-11
6-10
7-9 and some of the REAL optimisic folks thought
8-8

At the beginning of the season I was thinking 7-9, with a possibility of 8-8. I NEVER thought playoffs. I was looking for the team to start finding its footing to make a run at the playoffs next year. I was looking for continual improvement throughout the year.

What I've seen in the past three weeks is a team that is REGRESSING. After the first four weeks I was VERY optiimistic, because we seemed to be a team that was playing with fire, but didn't yet know how to put a game away.

In the past three weeks, this has been a team that has NO heart, NO spirit, NO sense of being able to win a game.

[kgun12]

Re: I don't get it!!!

Because they raised expectations the way they played the first month. They are getting worse instead of better. Thats why

Seriously you really thought the way they played they had a shot of beating Indy, NE, Jax, SD, Balt, the Bears, and at the time Miami? Realistically that right there is 8 losses right there. With all of the above factors I mentioned you reall thought we would be at best better than 8-8? Come on!!!

[Novacane]

Re: I don't get it!!!

They had a shot at beating NE week 1 on the road why would you not think they had a shot at home? This team is getting worse not better.

[PECKERWOOD]

Re: I don't get it!!!

I really hate *****ing to be honest. Im the type of guy where I would rather agree, but obviously I wont agree if I deem the other party uncorrect. Im just disappointed that we havent played disciplined football. So many mistakes, errors and penalties that have been suicidal to our teams success and growth. I guess one, would expect that with such a young team. One thing I didnt expect, was to lose winnable games against, very beatable teams. The Jets and Lions are two perfect examples of this. Even, New England is beatable. Im just disgusted that nobody can beat NE out of the #1 spot in our division. There really not a good team when you look at other teams out there. I suppose, I had high expectations for this team. I figured JP, would be coming into his own. I was worried about our offensive line and WR's, to begin with. I didnt think our defense would be so insufficient. I certainly didnt believe our run defense would be so horrid. That's the NFL though, one year your on top and the other your on the bottom. Its a shame we have been on the bottom for the past decade though.

[kgun12]

Re: I don't get it!!!

At the beginning of the season I was thinking 7-9, with a possibility of 8-8. I NEVER thought playoffs. I was looking for the team to start finding its footing to make a run at the playoffs next year. I was looking for continual improvement throughout the year.

What I've seen in the past three weeks is a team that is REGRESSING. After the first four weeks I was VERY optiimistic, because we seemed to be a team that was playing with fire, but didn't yet know how to put a game away.

In the past three weeks, this has been a team that has NO heart, NO spirit, NO sense of being able to win a game.

Teams have figured out how the beat our D. Quick passes and don't let our speed be a factor! As for the offense, if you keep putting crap in front of _______ (any QB) and call it an o-line it doesn't matter! If it looks like cap, smell like crap and plays like crap, I think it is crap!

Again a lot of the people, where the ones saying Hutchinson and the Center from N. O. wasn't worth the money, well look what we have! CRAP.

If J.p. was in Pittsburgh and Rothisbuger was in Buffalo and everythinh else the same, we would be talking about what a flop Ben was and how good J.P. played in the Super Bowl!!!

[SABURZFAN]

Re: I don't get it!!!

i predicted 6-10 but it doesn't look as if we'll get there.not the way they've been playing the last 3 weeks.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Re: I don't get it!!!

Because they raised expectations the way they played the first month. They are getting worse instead of better. Thats why

Because we played well against a flat performance by NE and still lost?
Because we beat Miami?
Nothing great about the Jets game.
Minnesota...that game wasn't bad. Although we did almost let them tie it.

What I gleaned from the first four months is that we have some descent young players. I still think so. Key plays are going in the wrong direction for us right now. These things happen to young teams.

[PECKERWOOD]

Re: I don't get it!!!

I thought, 7-9 was very reasonable.

[YardRat]

Re: I don't get it!!!

Most people here figured:

5-11
6-10
7-9 and some of the REAL optimisic folks thought
8-8

So my question to all the *****ing is did you think we would be any of the above record playing REALLY good football? Seriously we have a young QB learning his
3rd new offense, a horrible O-line that most of us new BEFORE the draft, that wasn't addressed! (BTW the Jets got D. Ferguson and Mangold in the draft), 5 that's FIVE rookies playing D, a whole new coaching staff for the 3rd time in 5 years, and front office.

So if your *****ing I ask why. Did you really think this season would be any different and if so why?

I have said it on this site from day 1 of it's existance, the way you win in the NFL is on the O and D lines. What have we done to make ours better!

BTW we are sitting on about $10 million dollars not spent under the cap. Hutchinson along with a good O-line draft choice or another FA would have been VERY helpful. But then again alot of you *****ing said it would have been a waste of money to bring in a couple of top flight FA linemen. Well I hope we are getting good interest on the $10 million, cause it's not doing us a damn bit of good!

Do I like what's happening NO, was it expected YES!!!

Is Holcomb the answer laughable, NO

Do you really think that turning the ball over three times per game and scoring 6 pts is going to garner any more victories than the two we already have? I don't.

[kgun12]

Re: I don't get it!!!

I really hate *****ing to be honest. Im the type of guy where I would rather agree, but obviously I wont agree if I deem the other party uncorrect. Im just disappointed that we havent played disciplined football. So many mistakes, errors and penalties that have been suicidal to our teams success and growth. I guess one, would expect that with such a young team. One thing I didnt expect, was to lose winnable games against, very beatable teams. The Jets and Lions are two perfect examples of this. Even, New England is beatable. Im just disgusted that nobody can beat NE out of the #1 spot in our division. There really not a good team when you look at other teams out there. I suppose, I had high expectations for this team. I figured JP, would be coming into his own. I was worried about our offensive line and WR's, to begin with. I didnt think our defense would be so insufficient. I certainly didnt believe our run defense would be so horrid. That's the NFL though, one year your on top and the other your on the bottom. Its a shame we have been on the bottom for the past decade though.

You answered your own question, but dismissed it, it's called youth! Youth takes stupid plenalties, youth plays undisipline football and youth looses winnable games. And BAD VERY BAD O-lines make it had for a young QB to get better! Ask Todd Collins, Johnson, Flutie only had some sucess cause he had the experince to run for his life, Bledsoe was made to look young and bad and is doing the same in Dallas and now J.P. Which brings me back to how long we have been stuggling and bad. Our O-line has been filled with has beens dating back to Collins. Again let's sit on $10 million dollars.

[kgun12]

Re: I don't get it!!!

Do you really think that turning the ball over three times per game and scoring 6 pts is going to garner any more victories than the two we already have? I don't.

What's your point!