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  • BILLSROCK1212
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    • Mar 2006
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    Bills almost had McFarland at the deadline

    The Colts were thankful trade talks broke down between the Bills and Bucs over DT Anthony McFarland. The teams had been in discussions about a trade that would have sent McFarland to Buffalo for CB Nate Clements. The Bills were shopping Clements because they are concerned they might lose him as a free agent after the season. McFarland would have replaced first-round draft pick John McCargo, who recently went on injured reserve. After the talks broke off, the Colts moved in and acquired McFarland for a second-round pick. . . .
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  • OpIv37
    Acid Douching Asswipe
    • Sep 2002
    • 101229

    #2
    Re: Bills almost had McFarland at the deadline

    chalk another failure up to the Bills' FO.

    I guess the good news is that it means they sense the urgency of the DL situation if they were at least trying to get him.
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    • Saratoga Slim
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      • Jul 2005
      • 4153

      #3
      Re: Bills almost had McFarland at the deadline

      I don't count it as a failure at all. I'm pleased to see that OBD was actively trying to do something with Clements as well as address the DL. It doesn't say WHY talks with the Bills broke down. Maybe the Bucs didn't want to renegotiate Clements' contract and were looking for a draft pick instead. I'm OK with the fact that we didn't part with a 2nd round pick for McFarland. That's looking to be a fairly high pick in exchange for an aging, good-but-not-outstanding veteran with a big salary.
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      • OpIv37
        Acid Douching Asswipe
        • Sep 2002
        • 101229

        #4
        Re: Bills almost had McFarland at the deadline

        Originally posted by Saratoga Slim
        an aging, good-but-not-outstanding veteran with a big salary....
        ....is still a huge improvement over the DT's already on our roster. How sad is that?

        Anyway, the FO wanted the guy and couldn't get him- how is that not a failure?
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        • Forward_Lateral
          Registered User
          • Mar 2004
          • 29894

          #5
          Re: Bills almost had McFarland at the deadline

          I don't blame the Front Office. It's not their fault Tampa would rather have a 2nd round pick over an over-paid, over-rated CB.

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          • OpIv37
            Acid Douching Asswipe
            • Sep 2002
            • 101229

            #6
            Re: Bills almost had McFarland at the deadline

            I forgot, the almighty Marv is infallible.

            He couldn't get a guy that he obviously wanted, and instead that player went to a team we have to play later in the season. Why would I EVER think that would be Marv's fault?

            As bad as this team is, I still see a lot of excuses flying around here. If we don't start holding players and FO personnel responsible, this team is never going to get better.
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            • Kerr
              Hall of Fame Zoner
              • Feb 2005
              • 6656

              #7
              Re: Bills almost had McFarland at the deadline

              I knew dungy would be all over his former player. Well, at least marv tried. Tampa didn't like the deal and we're not indy, we need all the draft pick we can get.

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              • jamze132
                Registered User
                • Jun 2003
                • 29290

                #8
                Re: Bills almost had McFarland at the deadline

                Well I know the NFL isn't like Best Buy or anything, but if I'm in there and I see something that I like, I get it. Especially if there is a sale that is about to expire, like the ****ing trade deadline! You can't really give me a good reason why this trade didn't go down unless it was TB who balked.

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                • YardRat
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                  • Dec 2004
                  • 86142

                  #9
                  Re: Bills almost had McFarland at the deadline

                  I'd like to know the actual details of the deal breaking down.
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                  • Dozerdog
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                    • Jul 2002
                    • 42586

                    #10
                    Re: Bills almost had McFarland at the deadline

                    Originally posted by OpIv37
                    I forgot, the almighty Marv is infallible.

                    He couldn't get a guy that he obviously wanted, and instead that player went to a team we have to play later in the season. Why would I EVER think that would be Marv's fault?

                    As bad as this team is, I still see a lot of excuses flying around here. If we don't start holding players and FO personnel responsible, this team is never going to get better.
                    Yeah. We are supposed to make people take a worse offer.

                    Seriously- if you were Tampa would you want Clements or the 60th pick in next year's draft? With no guarantee Clements stays.


                    If you were Marv would you give up the 35th-40th pick in the draft for Booger?



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                    • OpIv37
                      Acid Douching Asswipe
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 101229

                      #11
                      Re: Bills almost had McFarland at the deadline

                      Originally posted by Dozerdog
                      Yeah. We are supposed to make people take a worse offer.

                      Seriously- if you were Tampa would you want Clements or the 60th pick in next year's draft? With no guarantee Clements stays.


                      If you were Marv would you give up the 35th-40th pick in the draft for Booger?



                      The allmighty OpIv can get any deal done. He can sell refridgerators to eskimos
                      just the fact that Marv was trying to get him proves the 3 DT's we brought in in the off-season haven't been performing up to expectations.

                      And the fact that the deal only fell through at the last minute proves there must have been something we were willing to give up that they wanted- how else would it have gone even that far?

                      But, it's NEVER Marv's fault. NEVER.
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                      • Saratoga Slim
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                        • Jul 2005
                        • 4153

                        #12
                        Re: Bills almost had McFarland at the deadline

                        Originally posted by OpIv37
                        just the fact that Marv was trying to get him proves the 3 DT's we brought in in the off-season haven't been performing up to expectations.

                        And the fact that the deal only fell through at the last minute proves there must have been something we were willing to give up that they wanted- how else would it have gone even that far?

                        But, it's NEVER Marv's fault. NEVER.
                        That fact that Marv was trying to get him proves that one of the 3 DT's we brought in in the off-season broke his foot.

                        Maybe it was Marv's fault. But how the hell do we know? Maybe Tampa wanted Nate and a draft pick. Maybe they didn't want Nate at all and were insisting on a 2nd round pick that we didn't want to give. Who knows. And maybe Marv didn't want him that bad and shied away at the asking price. There's a lot of things that I'd kind of like to buy but won't because the sticker price is higher than I can justify spending.
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                        • patmoran2006
                          Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 19840

                          #13
                          Re: Bills almost had McFarland at the deadline

                          Anyway you want to look at it, DT was one of the spots we neglected by judging that Tim Anderson was good enough to start and/or be part of a regular rotation.

                          We signed a trillion run-of-mill bargain-basement free agents, DT should've been one of them.

                          IF this report was true and Tampa wanted Clements and Marv said no then he's a total idiot.. If Tampa didnt want Nate and wanted a second rounder instead and Marv said no, then Marv made the right call.

                          BTW< anyone watch the Indy game Sunday? First play of the game Booger drilled Clinton Portis at the line of scrimmage.


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                          • SquishDaFish
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                            • Jun 2005
                            • 17034

                            #14
                            Re: Bills almost had McFarland at the deadline

                            OP your blind sometimes man. I would hope that Buffalo would of hung up the phone once he heard 2nd round pick and not Clements. I hate the idea of trading 1st or 2nd rounder for a NON superstar game breaking player. Booger was shipped out for a reason. Would I like to see him come to buffalo yea but not for a 2nd round pick.

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                            • jpdex12
                              Registered User
                              • Jan 2005
                              • 2670

                              #15
                              Re: Bills almost had McFarland at the deadline

                              Originally posted by OpIv37
                              just the fact that Marv was trying to get him proves the 3 DT's we brought in in the off-season haven't been performing up to expectations.

                              And the fact that the deal only fell through at the last minute proves there must have been something we were willing to give up that they wanted- how else would it have gone even that far?

                              But, it's NEVER Marv's fault. NEVER.
                              yeah. it's got nothing to do with the fact that we lost a 1st round DT due to injury.
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