Carson Palmer

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Fumbles when hit blindly
Drew Brees threw three ints
Ben R threw three pics (two of which were returned for tds) and was sacked 5 times
Delhome, Penington, McNair, Smith, Gerrard, Leinart, Favre, Young, rosenfuls, McNabb, E Manning, Gradowski, Walter,, Plummer, Frye: all threw for under 200 yards.

Other QB's throwing ints: Leinart, Alex Smith, Rosenfuls, Carr, Pennington (2) Frye, Romo, Delhome
Qb taking multiple sacks: Delhome (3), Romo (2) Frye (3) Bulger (3) Walter (6) Rothlisberger (5) McNabb (4) E Manning (2) Gradowski (2) A Smith (2) Texans (4) Leinert (4) Palmer (2) Vick (2) Brees (2)

[kernowboy]

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Bad day at the office for loads of people it seems

[PECKERWOOD]

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Roethlisberger is looking horrible.

[jmb1099]

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It was a rough day for many is right.

[MikeInRoch]

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Big Ben sholdn't be playing until he has fully recovered. Batch could play a much better game at this point.

[HHURRICANE]

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Everybody needs to curb their expectations around here. We don't need to have an HOF QB to win games around here. The difference between Losman getting accolades and getting blasted is not the INT's but the fumbles and sacks. If he changes those things than fans will be throwing thier support behind this kid.

The Bye came at the aboslute best time.

[TigerJ]

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Gee, I guess everyone must have lost this weekend. LOL

[Inetpub]

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And you JP nuthuggers still want to push that JP is the greatest or something? Theres a difference between the players you are all referring to and JP. They dont CONSISTENTLY make dumb mistakes and they TEND TO WIN GAMES. Given only Leinart on that list is a proven winner, 1 week is 1 week. Take thier overall careers and Im sure the only 3 game winners in that whole list is JP and Leinart.

Go figure. Who would have thought our 1 bad week would be a consistent one for all season?

[jamze132]

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And you JP nuthuggers still want to push that JP is the greatest or something? Theres a difference between the players you are all referring to and JP. They dont CONSISTENTLY make dumb mistakes and they TEND TO WIN GAMES. Given only Leinart on that list is a proven winner, 1 week is 1 week. Take thier overall careers and Im sure the only 3 game winners in that whole list is JP and Leinart.

Go figure. Who would have thought our 1 bad week would be a consistent one for all season?

Leinart is a proven winner? In the NFL?

[Saratoga Slim]

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Everybody needs to curb their expectations around here. We don't need to have an HOF QB to win games around here. The difference between Losman getting accolades and getting blasted is not the INT's but the fumbles and sacks. If he changes those things than fans will be throwing thier support behind this kid.

The Bye came at the aboslute best time.

i agree that JP's dealing with some pretty unrealistic expectations. He's thrown 6 picks in 7 games, which is not awful. In fact, there are 15 quarterbacks with more, including Big Ben (11), Eli (8), Hasselbeck (8), Pennington (7) and Rex (7).

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/stats/bycategory?cat=Passing&conference=NFL&year=season_2006&sort=3&timeframe=ToDate

Overall, I've got to say that he's much more accurate than last year. You just don't see the bounce passes or tentative pushes anymore. He's throwing with much more confidence.

I think the greater issue is that the offense isn't scoring any points. An interception a game isn't going to make any fans mad if the offense is scoring. But when you haven't put up more than 20 points all season, it's easy to blame the QB and focus on his mistakes, as opposed to passing the blame around.

That said, I agree that he needs to limit the fumbling. At this point I'll give him some leeway on the sacks, b/c the line is not giving a whole lot of protection. I think we need to accept that sacks are going to happen until a) the OL plays better or b) Losman develops a better feeling for when he needs to forget looking downfield and take off, or is instructed to run more by the coaches. However, I think it's nonetheless reasonable to expect that sooner rather than later, JP learns to hear the footsteps, cover up the ball, and take a sack if necessary without putting the ball on the turf.

[Ron Burgundy]

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Carson Palmer
Drew Brees
Ben R, Delhome, Penington, McNair, Smith, Gerrard, Leinart, Favre, Young, McNabb, E Manning, Gradowski, , Plummer, Frye

> JP.

Yeah.

[YardRat]

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Everybody has bad games. It's different depending on whether that kind of performance is the exception or the rule.

[THE END OF ALL DAYS]

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And you JP nuthuggers still want to push that JP is the greatest or something? Theres a difference between the players you are all referring to and JP. They dont CONSISTENTLY make dumb mistakes and they TEND TO WIN GAMES. Given only Leinart on that list is a proven winner, 1 week is 1 week. Take thier overall careers and Im sure the only 3 game winners in that whole list is JP and Leinart.

Go figure. Who would have thought our 1 bad week would be a consistent one for all season?

would you please try to be a gentelman for just a short time and drop the nuthugger refrences. It really is completly unnecessary and makes you look like immature trailer trash.

[The_Philster]

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would you please try to be a gentelman for just a short time and drop the nuthugger refrences. It really is completly unnecessary and makes you look like immature trailer trash.

quite frankly, when someone has to start name-calling like he does, his opinion is no longer valid as far as I'm concerned. It means he's not thinking like an adult...but a 2-year old

[jmb1099]

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And you JP nuthuggers still want to push that JP is the greatest or something? Theres a difference between the players you are all referring to and JP. They dont CONSISTENTLY make dumb mistakes and they TEND TO WIN GAMES. Given only Leinart on that list is a proven winner, 1 week is 1 week. Take thier overall careers and Im sure the only 3 game winners in that whole list is JP and Leinart.

Go figure. Who would have thought our 1 bad week would be a consistent one for all season?

Teams win games, QB's play a role in helping a team win. You assume too much if you think I am saying Losman belongs in the Manning Palmer category. This post was an fyi to demonstrate two things:
1) That even the best qb's in the nfl don't always get it right (manning has yet to win a sb)
2) Expectations of our own qb are very high

Mike Vick looks like he may finally be figuring it out. Back to back games where he tosses multiple td's, and makes good decisions with the football...six years after he started in the NFL. Some of you guys can't even give our qb 16 games...wow.

Oh and just a little fyi on the side: calling me a nuthugger, or a boyfirend, or any other name isn't going to make me back off my point. It may get you a few thanks from those who agree with you, but it doesn't help make your point. I'm here to discuss football, how about you?