When stats don't lie

[Mr. Cynical]

Team Statistics
	GB	BUF
First Downs	26	9
Passing	19	3
Rushing	7	6
Penalty	0	0
Third Down Efficiency	7-16	1-10
Fourth Down Efficiency	0-1	0-0
TOTAL NET YARDS	427	179
Total Plays	79	46
Average Gain Per Play	5.4	3.9
NET YARDS RUSHING	147	115
Rushes	30	26
Average Per Rush	4.9	4.4
NET YARDS PASSING	280	64
Completions-Attempts	28-47	8-15
Yards Per Pass Play	5.7	3.2
Times Sacked	2	5
Yards Lost to Sacks	7	38
Had Intercepted	2	0
PUNTS	6	8
Average Punt	38.8	47.4
PENALTIES	4	8
Penalty Yards	21	50
FUMBLES	2	1
Fumbles Lost	2	0

[jmb1099]

Re: When stats don't lie

Offense needs to improve hardcore. But we didn't turn it over and that should be proof enough that if we can hold on to the @#$% football than we can win a few.

[Mr. Cynical]

Re: When stats don't lie

Normally the most important stat is the W, but that's when your team is vying for a playoff run. When you are rebuilding the more important stat is how your team is improving. Granted getting the W is a good thing, but the way they did it doesn't make me feel any better about the team moving forward.

[jmb1099]

Re: When stats don't lie

Well there were a few positives...
Anthony Thomas looked good , the left side of the line seemed like it started to gel.

[Nighthawk]

Re: When stats don't lie

Normally the most important stat is the W, but that's when your team is vying for a playoff run. When you are rebuilding the more important stat is how your team is improving. Granted getting the W is a good thing, but the way they did it doesn't make me feel any better about the team moving forward.

The only thing that impressed me today was Anthony Thomas. He ran well and looked determined every time he touched the ball. JP on the other hand, looked terrible yet again. His play is not making me feel good about his future.

[Elminster]

Re: When stats don't lie

Normally the most important stat is the W, but that's when your team is vying for a playoff run. When you are rebuilding the more important stat is how your team is improving. Granted getting the W is a good thing, but the way they did it doesn't make me feel any better about the team moving forward.

I'll tell you what gives me confidence....the whole clutch factor we got going. We actually pulled it together when things were looking grim instead of falling apart. THAT, to me, is a sign of growth, as well as the turnover differential. Our defense made plays....and our offense didn't cough up the ball. I see JP was sacked 5 times....yet he didn't fumble once. And he didn't throw any picks. That's good. At the very least we're back to where we were before the Bears game, and a little better 'cause guys stepped it up...

[Mr. Cynical]

Re: When stats don't lie

I'll tell you what gives me confidence....the whole clutch factor we got going. We actually pulled it together when things were looking grim instead of falling apart. THAT, to me, is a sign of growth, as well as the turnover differential. Our defense made plays....and our offense didn't cough up the ball. I see JP was sacked 5 times....yet he didn't fumble once. And he didn't throw any picks. That's good. At the very least we're back to where we were before the Bears game, and a little better 'cause guys stepped it up...

Fair enough...I agree with the point that we didn't fold up and stuck it out even though the offense did nothing.

[Yasgur's Farm]

Re: When stats don't lie

JP on the other hand, looked terrible yet again. His play is not making me feel good about his future.

15 att's, 8 c's, 102 yd's, 6.8 yd's/att, 1 td, 0 int, 97.1 passer rating, 0 fumbles.

He was allowed to put the ball up 15 freakin times. Pass plays were initiated 23 times. Take away the 3 scrambles and the 5 sacks and your left with 15 FREAKIN pass plays.

BTW... I put a stop watch on all 5 sacks... The one near the goal line was 4 seconds before he was hit... Every other sack came in 2 and 3 seconds.

[Nighthawk]

Re: When stats don't lie

15 att's, 8 c's, 102 yd's, 6.8 yd's/att, 1 td, 0 int, 97.1 passer rating, 0 fumbles.

He was allowed to put the ball up 15 freakin times. Pass plays were initiated 23 times. Take away the 3 scrambles and the 5 sacks and your left with 16 FREAKIN pass plays.

BTW... I put a stop watch on all 5 sacks... The one near the goal line was 4 seconds before he was hit... Every other sack game in 2 and 3 seconds.

Stop...please! He hit a wide open Evans on a blown coverage! Stop acting like he marched them down the field to win.

[Yasgur's Farm]

Re: When stats don't lie

I'm not saying anything about him marching the team or carrying the team or anything else... Only that he wasn't terrible and had precious few seconds to deliver the ball.

[jmb1099]

Re: When stats don't lie

Stop...please! He hit a wide open Evans on a blown coverage! Stop acting like he marched them down the field to win.

He htt the pass didn't he? Maybe he got lucky, but he hit it and that is that. I wasn't impressed with his overall play today, but he came through in the fourth quarter and made a nice play. No fumbles either.

[Nighthawk]

Re: When stats don't lie

He htt the pass didn't he? Maybe he got lucky, but he hit it and that is that. I wasn't impressed with his overall play today, but he came through in the fourth quarter and made a nice play. No fumbles either.

Dude, he under threw him! If he is not wide open, it's an interception...were watching the same game as me?

[HHURRICANE]

Re: When stats don't lie

15 att's, 8 c's, 102 yd's, 6.8 yd's/att, 1 td, 0 int, 97.1 passer rating, 0 fumbles.

He was allowed to put the ball up 15 freakin times. Pass plays were initiated 23 times. Take away the 3 scrambles and the 5 sacks and your left with 15 FREAKIN pass plays.

BTW... I put a stop watch on all 5 sacks... The one near the goal line was 4 seconds before he was hit... Every other sack came in 2 and 3 seconds.

I'm not sure if people actually watched the game. Our OL sucked yet again and Robert Royal dropped a ball that hit his hands. JP is not the problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[odin]

Re: When stats don't lie

He was under a lot of pressure on the TD pass so of course its not going to be pinpoint accurate.

[jmb1099]

Re: When stats don't lie

Dude, he under threw him! If he is not wide open, it's an interception...were watching the same game as me?

I'm willing to bet you'd complain if I handed you $100 face down.
Seriously, no one is saying losman played a great game. But you are trying to discredit every aspect of the game. He saw the open man, threw it to him, we score. I don't care if it isn't as perfect as it could or should have been. Losman needs work, I get it, but he made the right read and threw to the open receiver, what is your problem?