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  • YardRat
    Well, lookie here...
    • Dec 2004
    • 86148

    Offensive woes

    Re-arrange the following list to show your opinion on what the problems with the Bills offense are, from worst to least. Imagine you're Marv Levy and creating the 'priority list' for improving the offense the rest of the year and the ensuing off-season.

    Lack of talent at QB.
    Lack of talent on the offensive line.
    Lack of talent at running back.
    Lack of talent at wide receiver.
    Lack of talent at tight end.
    Coaching, in general.
    Gameplanning and play-calling.

    Whick would you address first? Which one last, or not at all?
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  • TigerJ
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 22575

    #2
    Re: Offensive woes

    As far as I'm concerned Losman gets the whole year. It's still possible to do some tinkering on the offensive line (right guard spot) and that's where I'd start this year. I think we're OK at WR myself. I'd like to see what Everett can do at TE. I was disappoinnted in Royal's drops yesterday, though at least one of them was a real tough catch had he managed to hold on. I don't mind the running back situation at all except that I don't think Shaud Williams as the third RB gives the team many options at all when injuries occur. I think the coaching might be OK. If the team continues to make mental errors at the same clip next year, then my opinion on that will definitely change.
    Last edited by TigerJ; 11-06-2006, 08:19 AM.
    I've made up my mind. Don't confuse me with the facts.

    I'm the most reasonable poster here. If you don't agree, I'll be forced to have a hissy fit.

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    • Drive 4 Five
      Registered User
      • May 2003
      • 2202

      #3
      Re: Offensive woes

      "Lack of talent at the QB position." What gives?

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      • Drive 4 Five
        Registered User
        • May 2003
        • 2202

        #4
        Re: Offensive woes

        I think once we get our line shaped up, this offense is going to make some noise. I would also like to upgrade the talent at the TE position as well, but otherwise we're fine.

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        • Night Train
          Retired - On Several Levels
          • Jul 2005
          • 33117

          #5
          Re: Offensive woes

          Originally posted by YardRat
          Lack of talent at QB.
          Lack of talent on the offensive line.
          Lack of talent at running back.
          Lack of talent at wide receiver.
          Lack of talent at tight end.
          Coaching, in general.
          Gameplanning and play-calling.

          Whick would you address first? Which one last, or not at all?
          QB - Marv signed Nall and Jauron may have to use him until the next young guy comes along. Losman may be blowing his chance.

          OL - Obvious. At least 3 picks in the draft.

          RB- A. Thomas is a good backup but they may need to find someone else, instead of Willis. He's not worth the $$ Rosenhaus will ask for.

          WR- Outside of Evans, they ALL stink.

          TE- Royal can block but has dropped several balls. Everett not getting opportunities.

          Coaching- Marv picked Jauron and will dig in until it becomes unbearable. I doubt anything happens until at least after 2007.

          D- getting better a little at a time. Will need a big MLB to replace Fletcher. Wouldn't be surprised if Spikes is a cap cut this off-season.

          O - Why is Fairchild rolling out Losman more to his right, to avoid the turnovers and sacks ?
          Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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          • YardRat
            Well, lookie here...
            • Dec 2004
            • 86148

            #6
            Re: Offensive woes

            Originally posted by Drive 4 Five
            "Lack of talent at the QB position." What gives?

            If you don't think there is a lack of talent at the QB position, then it would be at the bottom of your list...a low priority.
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            • Jeff1220
              H to the 12:20
              • Jul 2002
              • 6136

              #7
              Re: Offensive woes

              Lack of talent on the offensive line.
              -obvious to most.

              (PUSH) Lack of talent at QB. Lack of talent at wide receiver.
              -JP is a huge '?' but it doesn't look good. Part of the QB problems have to do w/WRs that can't get open.

              Lack of talent at tight end.
              -Royals dropsies opened my eyes to this big-time.

              The rest:
              Gameplanning and play-calling.
              Lack of talent at running back.
              Coaching, in general.

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              • bflojohn
                Registered User
                • Aug 2005
                • 711

                #8
                Re: Offensive woes

                The best teams in this league have DOMINANT O-lines, and the Bills are FAR from that category! First and third rounders and free agent talent NEEDS to be explored! Jake Long people!!

                A bonified #2 reciever would really help Lee Evans and J.P. Losman immensely!

                A better TE would be a safety outlet for J.P., the offense would improve greatly with a threat up the seam! When was the last time the Bills had a game breaker at TE? I'd say NEVER!

                I'd say game planning next, however, the simple fact is it's tough to make chicken salad out of chicken *****! Better players next year and THEN they are under the microscope in this endevour.

                QB is next, but I still insist that NO ONE can judge a QB until he is given a chance to perform with good talent around him. The jury, therefore, remains out for me in regards to J.P. Losman.

                I wonder if the Bills will commit to Willis McGahee long term? The running game is NOT unlike the QB position, IF better O-linemen are providing the holes, then a better evaluation can be made.

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                • justasportsfan
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 71579

                  #9
                  Re: Offensive woes

                  Originally posted by YardRat
                  If you don't think there is a lack of talent at the QB position, then it would be at the bottom of your list...a low priority.
                  there's a lot of talent in the qb position. It's his brain that needs fixing that only experience and proper guidance can fix. Whether we have the right people to guide him remains to be seen. We do not however have the right supporting cast around him YET to make proper evaluations.
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                  • SquishDaFish
                    Lets GO BUFFALO!!
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 17034

                    #10
                    Re: Offensive woes

                    Lack of talent on the offensive line.
                    Lack of talent at tight end.
                    BIGGEST 2 PROBLEMS ON THIS TEAM!

                    Gameplanning and play-calling.
                    Coaching, in general.
                    Lack of talent at running back.
                    Lack of talent at wide receiver.
                    Jp is the least of my worries including WR and RB. Once the Ol is fixed Jp will be better which in turn will make our WRs and RBs better.

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                    • Michael82
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 82330

                      #11
                      Re: Offensive woes

                      Originally posted by BillsIN05
                      Lack of talent on the offensive line.
                      Lack of talent at tight end.
                      BIGGEST 2 PROBLEMS ON THIS TEAM!

                      Gameplanning and play-calling.
                      Coaching, in general.
                      Lack of talent at running back.
                      Lack of talent at wide receiver.
                      Jp is the least of my worries including WR and RB. Once the Ol is fixed Jp will be better which in turn will make our WRs and RBs better.
                      Good post! The Offensive line is the biggest problem on this team. The left side looks improved and may turn out to be pretty good now, and the center looks decent. But the Right side is awful right now. Villarrial doesn't help the rookie Pennington whatsoever.

                      The TEs should be used to block all the time now because they cant catch a cold.

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                      • Mr. Pink
                        Peterman Sucks!
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 35303

                        #12
                        Re: Offensive woes

                        The biggest problem this team has is game-planning/coaching.

                        Two weeks and that's the turkey that Fairchild concocted in 2 weeks?

                        Inexcusable.

                        Then again, maybe he doesn't think he has a QB who can handle anything more than what we saw.

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                        • Elminster
                          #1 Kelsay Fan
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 928

                          #13
                          Re: Offensive woes

                          Lack of talent at wide receiver.
                          Lack of talent on the offensive line.
                          Lack of talent at tight end.
                          Lack of talent at QB.
                          Gameplanning and play-calling.
                          Lack of talent at running back.
                          Coaching, in general.

                          How can that be, you ask? The way I see it, our only good wide-outs are Evans, Reed, and Parrish. Everyone else is a scrub. The problem is that JR and RP are slot guys and thus aren't every down players, and both have been hurt recently. We absolutely NEED a big receiver for a #2, because as it is now all our receivers are average size or smaller.

                          Next comes the oline, but they may improve enough to be effective. The only sure-fire problem I see is Villarial.

                          Okay....now we know why Washington wasn't eager to keep Royal. Couldn't catch a cold, and is either in protection or failing massively at getting open. Everett has been a disappointment...has he even been active?

                          Next comes JP. I feel he's coming along. He simply looks a lot worse than he actually is because he cannot rely on his oline for consistent protection and his receivers just aren't getting open, and have a tendency for dropping the ball. If he continues to play as he, we should get a QB in the off-season. But not a big name. We should get some one better than Nall, but JP isn't the worst of our problems by any stretch, and should be pencilled in as the starter next year. He's in a terrible enviroment and while he's made some mistakes independant of his poor enviroment, I very much doubt any QB would succeed here, and we should focus on fostering a good enviroment for a QB before going in a new direction there.

                          Then we have game-planning and play-calling. Mostly because I haven't seen Fairchild make it any easier on our anemic offense. Stuff like going for a bomb on 2nd-and-1 only works when you can reliably pick up one yard on the ground, which we can't. Some one tell Fairchild quick!

                          Willis has been good, bordering on decent. He just doesn't seem to be anything special at all. Depressingly average. His best asset may well be his blitz pick-up at this point. He seems to run scared in some situations, goes down too easily, and doesn't have the extra gear he once boasted before his injury. Willis isn't so much a strength as he is not a weakness.

                          I personally feel coaching isn't much of a problem...

                          Time may well fix many of these problems...
                          Good riddance Fairchild. Of course, the knowledge of your departure will only make TE more hateable than the typical Bills QB. Good luck, hope we don't mess you up like JP.

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                          • M
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 1947

                            #14
                            Re: Offensive woes

                            Originally posted by FunTimesYaY!
                            The biggest problem this team has is game-planning/coaching.

                            Two weeks and that's the turkey that Fairchild concocted in 2 weeks?

                            Inexcusable.

                            Then again, maybe he doesn't think he has a QB who can handle anything more than what we saw.
                            Maybe if they game planned / play called to the QBs strengths. They didn't draft JP so he could sit in the pocket all day long. They wanted a mobile QB but now they won't let him run. Hmmmm.... The O-line stinks too but it's getting better with the changes that were just made. Still Villarierl (sp?) needs to take a seat.
                            Let's Go Bills ... B B B B B B Bills!

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                            • DynaPaul
                              Registered User
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 7540

                              #15
                              Re: Offensive woes

                              Originally posted by YardRat
                              Lack of talent at QB.
                              Lack of talent on the offensive line.
                              Lack of talent at running back.
                              Lack of talent at wide receiver.
                              Lack of talent at tight end.
                              Coaching, in general.
                              Gameplanning and play-calling.
                              Needs in order of first to last:

                              1) Offensive Line
                              2) Gameplanning and Play Calling
                              3) Tight End
                              4) Quarterback
                              5) Runningback
                              6) Wide Reciever
                              7) Coaching

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