Whitner arrested

[L.A. Playa]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-bills-whitnerarrest&prov=ap&type=lgns

Buffalo Bills (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/buf/) safety Donte Whitner (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7757/) faces a harassment charge after an alleged domestic dispute with his girlfriend.
Whitner was arrested in the Buffalo suburb of Hamburg last Saturday after police were called to his home in response to a fight with a woman, police said. He was arraigned on the violation and released on his own recognizance.

[Mitchy moo]

Oh no, he broke our perfect record this year. I'm Donte be arch, taste my fury.

What is it with these guys and their girlfriends, you know. They can like go out and get 10 girls but they keep one at home and then beat them up once in a while.

He has a plane to catch this weekend, he better be on it.

[PECKERWOOD]

I can understand the domestic disputes. Men really get the wrong end of the stick nowadays.

[OpIv37]

this guy is one of the few reasons for hope on our team- it would be just our luck if he turns out to be a problem child.

[justasportsfan]

grab her picture and stick it on Peytons back :up:

[PECKERWOOD]

hahahaha

[TacklingDummy]

So much for character, eh Phil?

[PECKERWOOD]

Schopp and Bulldog feat. John Clayton, audio on WGR Sports Radio 550 on Whitner's arrest.


http://eod.liquidviewer.com/wgr-od/wgr/20061109_clayton.wma

[The_Philster]

So much for character, eh Phil?
1....we've heard one side of it
2...this didn't happen before he was drafted


HELLO MCFLY!!

[PECKERWOOD]

This really isn't a big deal at all. Clayton made a good point, in domestic disputes in which there is alleged physical abuse, somebody is going to get arrested. It's usually the man who gets arrested. This isn't even a misdemeanor, just a violation. He could get arrested for 15 days, or fined $250. But the charges will most likely: a.) Be dropped. b.) Settled outside of court.

[TacklingDummy]

1....we've heard one side of it
2...this didn't happen before he was drafted


HELLO MCFLY!!

Uh huh, and the guys Ray Lewis hung out with were nice guys before they killed someone.

[bluehaze]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-bills-whitnerarrest&prov=ap&type=lgns

Buffalo Bills (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/buf/) safety Donte Whitner (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7757/) faces a harassment charge after an alleged domestic dispute with his girlfriend.
Whitner was arrested in the Buffalo suburb of Hamburg last Saturday after police were called to his home in response to a fight with a woman, police said. He was arraigned on the violation and released on his own recognizance.

LOL, First thing I thought of when I saw this was Cecil Collins getting busted for B&E "watching a girl sleep, while hiding in her closet" :lol:

Then I read BuffaloFever's post and I agree, women get the benefit of the doubt in situations like this and they dont neccesarily always deserve it.

I wouldn't hold it against the guy without more information than has been given that's for sure.

[Bling]

Anybody going to chastise him like they did Randy McMike?

[The_Philster]

Uh huh, and the guys Ray Lewis hung out with were nice guys before they killed someone.
that doesn't have anything to do with what I said...so why'd you quote me?

[TacklingDummy]

Anybody going to chastise him like they did Randy McMike?

The Bills should look to trade this low character guy before he becomes a problem. sarcasm off.

[TacklingDummy]

that doesn't have anything to do with what I said...so why'd you quote me?

because you like to preach "character".

[The_Philster]

because you like to preach "character".
and the Ray Lewis situation has what to do with this, exactly?

[DraftBoy]

At the very least a fine for Donte, and a suspension may be necessary, I dont want to jump to conclusions but Id rather him not play with a dirtied record. Sit him till the off the field issues are resolved.

[TacklingDummy]

and the Ray Lewis situation has what to do with this, exactly?

Its called a history lesson.

[Dr. Lecter]

I bet TD finds a way to blame this on Losman!

[Dr. Lecter]

Anybody going to chastise him like they did Randy McMike?

If he beat his gf until she need treatment, yes.

We don't know if he touched her yet or very many details.

[The_Philster]

Its called a history lesson.
still has nothing to do with Whitner..
Let me try this slowly for the literacy-impaired


We've
barely
heard
1
side
of
the
dispute
so
far

[DraftBoy]

still has nothing to do with Whitner..
Let me try this slowly for the literacy-impaired


We've
barely
heard
1
side
of
the
dispute
so
far


Technically we've heard no side, and personally I think we should sit him out till we know everything. Bright light or not, kid needs to learn early on we dont tolerate this kind of action.

[Bling]

If he beat his gf until she need treatment, yes.

We don't know if he touched her yet or very many details.

If he beat her, sorry, fair is fair. I ****ing hate Randy McMike for beating his wife, wish Saban would look past sports and dump his overrated ass. Whitner deserves at least a suspension if he beat his girlfriend.

[The_Philster]

Technically we've heard no side,.hence the word barely in my post

[bluehaze]

Thnk ima head back to Finheaven, I'd rather be arguing about wether Daunte Culpepper is better for the Fins than Joey Harrington instead of arguing about whats better Donte Whitner getting arrested for harrasment or Randy McMike getting arrested for beatng his wife :puke:

[TacklingDummy]

Thnk ima head back to Finheaven, I'd rather be arguing about wether Daunte Culpepper is better for the Fins than Joey Harrington instead of arguing about whats better Donte Whitner getting arrested for harrasment or Randy McMike getting arrested for beatng his wife :puke:

Whitner has character, McMike doesn't.

[The_Philster]

Whitner has character, McMike doesn't.
It's not even disputable about McMichael....the guy's a scumbag. As far as Whitner, we really don't know for sure. Hopefully this is overblown or something :idunno:

[DraftBoy]

hence the word barely in my post


Look Im trying to help out your argument here not argue against you...I as high on non off the field issues (not antics) as you are.

[PECKERWOOD]

You know what wise judges do? They hear both sides of the story.. Usually after you hear one side of the story, you want to lynch whomever. Once, you hear both sides, you have a better perspective on what actually took place.

[Typ0]

I bet the filthy whore deserved it.

[DraftBoy]

I bet the filthy whore deserved it.


WOAH!!

[justasportsfan]

Anybody going to chastise him like they did Randy McMike?McMike hit his PREGNANT wife.

[patmoran2006]

sometimes you just gotta smack a *****.

[Bling]

McMike hit his PREGNANT wife.

So if Whitner's girlfriend is pregnant, they're equal? Aren't we also a country of legalized abortion?

I don't know... all I know is that football players are increasingly becoming scum bags. For years the one shinning light of the Bills organization I saw was the clean record. If Whitner is doing bad things to this girl, it's time for you guys to chastise him like you did McMIke. I'll be the first to admit McMike is a scum bag, are you ready to admit one of your own might be?

[The_Philster]

So if Whitner's girlfriend is pregnant, they're equal? Aren't we also a country of legalized abortion?

I don't know... all I know is that football players are increasingly becoming scum bags. For years the one shinning light of the Bills organization I saw was the clean record. If Whitner is doing bad things to this girl, it's time for you guys to chastise him like you did McMIke. I'll be the first to admit McMike is a scum bag, are you ready to admit one of your own might be?
it'll be time to chastize him when we know what happened...we don't yet...HELLO!! Did you click the link or just assume what happened?

[patmoran2006]

lol only on THIS board could homers DEFEND Whitner and say at least his GF isnt preggo..

or "we dont know the whole story"

[The_Philster]

lol only on THIS board could homers DEFEND Whitner and say at least his GF isnt preggo..

or "we dont know the whole story"
Whitner's not being defended by anyone...WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED YET!!...Why don't you click on the link?
Last I checked, the accused is innocent until proven guilty....or shouldn't we at least hear exactly what he was accused of before we convict him?
Harassment is a pretty broad term...so is fighting...it could've been a war of words and she felt she could win the argument they were having simply by having him arrested. It's too easy to assume the worst when it comes to pro athletes

[DraftBoy]

I still maintain a suspension with pay till its sorted out, if he's guilty, id fine him for his pay retroactively.

[Dr. Lecter]

sometimes you just gotta smack a *****.

Which is why we smack you so often.

:jk:

[TacklingDummy]

I bet TD finds a way to blame this on Losman!

If JP hung out with his teammates Whitner woudn't be in trouble. :evil:

[LtBillsFan66]

It's the *****'s fault.

[YardRat]

Uh huh, and the guys Ray Lewis hung out with were nice guys before they killed someone.

This week's SI cover story...

"The Gospel According to Ray Lewis - God's Linebacker"

I almost pissed my pants pulling it out of the mailbox. Haven't read the article yet, though.

[patmoran2006]

Whitner's not being defended by anyone...WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED YET!!...Why don't you click on the link?
Last I checked, the accused is innocent until proven guilty....or shouldn't we at least hear exactly what he was accused of before we convict him?
Harassment is a pretty broad term...so is fighting...it could've been a war of words and she felt she could win the argument they were having simply by having him arrested. It's too easy to assume the worst when it comes to pro athletes

My rich friend is a special private investigator, and he informed me that is common, rich young folk get rich and powerful too quick.. And when his girl refused to take a walk down KNOW YOUR ROLE Boulevard, Whitner proceeded to layeth the smackdown on her CANDY ASS!

[Lee-83]

looks like we gotta trade him to cincinatti now!

[PECKERWOOD]

Hey, perfect fit for our defense. He likes to hit people, we need more of that.

[patmoran2006]

looks like we gotta trade him to cincinatti now!
Not yet, he needs at least one DWI first.

[patmoran2006]

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( I think BillsIn05 REALLY believes it was her fault.. LOL you take homerism to a whole new level dude)

[Night Train]

I bet the filthy whore deserved it.

Didn't you just become a Dad ? ( Shudder )

[Night Train]

Here's some more Bills players that were arrested through the years.

Bruce Smith
Thurman Thomas
Andre Reed
Daryl Talley
Cornelius Bennett
Travis Henry

and on and on and on... I still like the above people.

When I'm perfect, I'll start passing judgment on others. Until then, I'll STFU.

[Mitchy moo]

Hey, perfect fit for our defense. He likes to hit people, we need more of that.

he needs to learn the dress rule i guess.

[Jan Reimers]

For those few of you who are all over Whitner, I hope you never make a single mistake in your entire life.

I believe everyone is entitled to a mistake or two. As long as the person learns from them, and generally conducts his or her life in a responsible manner, the rest of us have no right to sit in judgment.

It is far too early to draw any conclusions on Whitner's character.

[Pride]

Arrested in a bar fight... Buy the guy a beer.
Arrested for beating your wife... Suspend his ass!

And yes, while we don't know all of the details.. I think its funny how hypocritical a lot of you guys are! If this were a Dolphins player... you'd call him a dirtbag and say "Glad we didn't draft him!" :shakeno:

And Jan... I call Bull**** on your post. A mistake is turning left when you meant to turn right. It isn't using your fist to teach your ***** a lesson. Its sad how far our country's moral character has gone where we consider physical abuse to be a "mistake". Eventually we'll consider murder "a mistake"

[!Papacrunk!]

Arrested in a bar fight... Buy the guy a beer.
Arrested for beating your wife... Suspend his ass!

And yes, while we don't know all of the details.. I think its funny how hypocritical a lot of you guys are! If this were a Dolphins player... you'd call him a dirtbag and say "Glad we didn't draft him!" :shakeno:

And Jan... I call Bull**** on your post. A mistake is turning left when you meant to turn right. It isn't using your fist to teach your ***** a lesson. Its sad how far our country's moral character has gone where we consider physical abuse to be a "mistake". Eventually we'll consider murder "a mistake"

Good post.


If it was as innocent as a yelling match that was loud enough that the neighbors had to call the cops, then get the guy some counselling so it doesn't escalate in the future.

I am surprised by some posts in this thread though.

[Typ0]

Didn't you just become a Dad ? ( Shudder )


don't bring my daughter into this. She won't turn into one of those filthy money hungry sleeze bags if I have anything to say about it...and I DO!

[Typ0]

Arrested in a bar fight... Buy the guy a beer.
Arrested for beating your wife... Suspend his ass!

And yes, while we don't know all of the details.. I think its funny how hypocritical a lot of you guys are! If this were a Dolphins player... you'd call him a dirtbag and say "Glad we didn't draft him!" :shakeno:

And Jan... I call Bull**** on your post. A mistake is turning left when you meant to turn right. It isn't using your fist to teach your ***** a lesson. Its sad how far our country's moral character has gone where we consider physical abuse to be a "mistake". Eventually we'll consider murder "a mistake"

who said it was even a mistake? I didn't see DW saying it was a mistake. The ***** was probably beating the crap out of him with her fists and he pushed her to get her to stop...and now she's got a lawyer and going to sue because she pressed charges. That's how a great deal of these 'disputes' happen when one of the parties has a big wallet. He did make a mistake. He was with the wrong girl. That's a mistake you get to make when your young.

[LtBillsFan66]

She was probably running her rotten mouth.

[Dr. Lecter]

I don't think we should judge either party until we know what actually happened.

[ICE74129]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-bills-whitnerarrest&prov=ap&type=lgns

Buffalo Bills (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/buf/) safety Donte Whitner (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7757/) faces a harassment charge after an alleged domestic dispute with his girlfriend.
Whitner was arrested in the Buffalo suburb of Hamburg last Saturday after police were called to his home in response to a fight with a woman, police said. He was arraigned on the violation and released on his own recognizance.

Great, Marv picked the next Eric Moulds.

[ICE74129]

I love it! Everyone is ready to defend this guy because he is a Bill. Did you ever think he DID do it? That maybe he is just a punk like many others in the NFL? Nah no way, Marv picked him he must be a great guy.....

[TacklingDummy]

I love it! Everyone is ready to defend this guy because he is a Bill. Did you ever think he DID do it? That maybe he is just a punk like many others in the NFL? Nah no way, Marv picked him he must be a great guy.....

You tell em Ice.

[ICE74129]

You tell em Ice. So you admit he sounds like the next Jim Brown huh?

[Dr. Lecter]

I love it! Everyone is ready to defend this guy because he is a Bill. Did you ever think he DID do it? That maybe he is just a punk like many others in the NFL? Nah no way, Marv picked him he must be a great guy.....

No.

What people are saying is not to judge him before when know what happened.

Look at it this way: You say we can't judge JP w/o ample evidence. You also can't judge Whitner w/o ample edivence.

[Inetpub]

Give him time. Hes still a rookie at harrassment. Hes going to be a good one! Again, he only has had 1 charge of harrassment. You cant judge his abilities after 1 charge. Maybe he might turn into a wife beater after 20 charges. Only then can you say, yes maybe we should question him. I'd give him 32 charges before we say ya, maybe he is crap.

He is our future! Im willing to stick with him when he finally graduates to wife beating. I dont see how people can expect him to be a great harrasser if he doesnt get the opportunity. We need to make time for him and get him another girlfriend to harrass to fine tune his skill.

[PECKERWOOD]

This is nothing more than a domestic dispute, relax people.

[Saratoga Slim]

If he beat his girlfriend there would likely be an assault charge.

First degree Harassment occurs where an individual engages in conduct, either physical or verbal, which gives the victim a reasonable fear of physical injury. Second degree harassment occurs where an individual engages in conduct with the intent to "harass, annoy or alarm another person" including physical acts or threats.

Bottom line is we don't know exactly what he did, as harassment covers a broad range of conduct, none of which includes actually causing physical injury to another person. I.e. what he's charged with is something less than beating his girlfriend.

That's not to say Donte wasn't a bad boy on the night in question, but we need to tone down our evaluations of his moral character until we get the facts and find out exactly what his lady is alleging he did. and if there's any truth to back it up.

[schubbard]

I'm certainly not a law expert, but every time I see someone arrested for harrassment in the papers, it's a verbal fight... If it was physical, there would be a more serious charge (assult, spousal abuse, etc.).

Could be he's just young and chose the wrong woman (or tried to ditch the wrong woman...), or maybe he will turn out to be a loser. Let's wait until we find out what really happened before we get too judgemental...

[ICE74129]

No.

What people are saying is not to judge him before when know what happened.

Look at it this way: You say we can't judge JP w/o ample evidence. You also can't judge Whitner w/o ample edivence.

Smacking a GF around isn't the same as trying to develop as a football player. So again we are going to wait and see because he is a Bill.

I am sure with the Bills laywers he could flat have just beat the **** outta her with no provocation at all and they will spin it how the bills fans want to hear it.

Let me guess 'She asked for it' right?

[ICE74129]

I'm certainly not a law expert, but every time I see someone arrested for harrassment in the papers, it's a verbal fight... If it was physical, there would be a more serious charge (assult, spousal abuse, etc.).

Could be he's just young and chose the wrong woman (or tried to ditch the wrong woman...), or maybe he will turn out to be a loser. Let's wait until we find out what really happened before we get too judgemental...

Could it also be she chose the wrong guy? Hummmmm....


I am not saying he is guilty but it seems bills fans will automatically condemn any player not on the bills, but all of our players are angels. Bull ****

[schubbard]

Whoops, sorry Slim, didn't see your post before I sent mine...

[L.A. Playa]

don't bring my daughter into this. She won't turn into one of those filthy money hungry sleeze bags if I have anything to say about it...and I DO!

if genetics have anything to say about it you will never have to worry about that

[Billzz]

At the very least a fine for Donte, and a suspension may be necessary, I dont want to jump to conclusions but Id rather him not play with a dirtied record. Sit him till the off the field issues are resolved.

They call them OFF THE FIELD INCIDENTS for a reason.

[MOULDSROCKS]

This really isn't a big deal at all. Clayton made a good point, in domestic disputes in which there is alleged physical abuse, somebody is going to get arrested. It's usually the man who gets arrested. This isn't even a misdemeanor, just a violation. He could get arrested for 15 days, or fined $250. But the charges will most likely: a.) Be dropped. b.) Settled outside of court.

No big deal huh? when it happens to members of other teams everyone here comes crashing down. it happened to the tight end of the dolphins and everyone here has something to say...where are all the big mouths on this one? must be that yellow streak down their backs

[Dr. Lecter]

How is it going Mouldsie?

I think the big difference is that we know McMicheal beat the crap out of his pregnant wife (actually he beat her twice).

We really don't know the facts in this story yet.

[Michael82]

How is it going Mouldsie?

I think the big difference is that we know McMicheal beat the crap out of his pregnant wife (actually he beat her twice).

We really don't know the facts in this story yet.
Exactly! It's probably just that he was swearing at her and calling her a whore or something. I don't think he hit her, but if he did, then he should get fined or something.

[Typ0]

Smacking a GF around isn't the same as trying to develop as a football player. So again we are going to wait and see because he is a Bill.

I am sure with the Bills laywers he could flat have just beat the **** outta her with no provocation at all and they will spin it how the bills fans want to hear it.

Let me guess 'She asked for it' right?

where does it say anything about him smacking her around smart ass? Like I said he probably pushed her while SHE WAS PHYSICALLLY ABUSING HIM and she'll end up settling out of court for a hundred grand.

[PECKERWOOD]

No big deal huh? when it happens to members of other teams everyone here comes crashing down. it happened to the tight end of the dolphins and everyone here has something to say...where are all the big mouths on this one? must be that yellow streak down their backs

I dont care what anybody thinks about Randy McMike. The difference between Whitner's situation and McMichael's situation is simple, nobody knows what happened with Whitner and his woman. With McMichael, people actually saw him beating on his wife. HUGE DIFFERENCE. I know fin fans are playing the victim card here, but I will reserve judgement on Whitner until I know the whole story. This story has been passed on by so many people already, the original stories meaning has probably been lost. Instead of reading other peoples post, how about you check out the link on page 1 and draw your own conclusions, instead of following someone elses.

[PECKERWOOD]

where does it say anything about him smacking her around smart ass? Like I said he probably pushed her while SHE WAS PHYSICALLLY ABUSING HIM and she'll end up settling out of court for a hundred grand.

There is no way it would be a hundred G. From what the reports have been saying, this is only his GF, not his wife. You wont get that much money out of something as small as this. But you are right, physical abuse could be something stupid like grabbing someones arm or nudging her.

[Typ0]

There is no way it would be a hundred G. From what the reports have been saying, this is only his GF, not his wife. You wont get that much money out of something as small as this. But you are right, physicall abuse could be something stupid like grabbing someones arm or nudging her.


oh if it was a wife he'd be playing to pay her for the rest of his life. You don't know how much it could be and it goes more into emotional damage than physical.

[PECKERWOOD]

oh if it was a wife he'd be playing to pay her for the rest of his life. You don't know how much it could be and it goes more into emotional damage than physical.

I agree.. Get a load of this.. I have a friend who recently got devorced, and his wife did something similar. He has to pay her $80,000.00 a year, for the next 10 years. That's over half of his salary too, ridiculous.

[gr8slayer]

Didnt he just have a kid?

[The_Philster]

I love it! Everyone is ready to defend this guy because he is a Bill. Did you ever think he DID do it? That maybe he is just a punk like many others in the NFL? Nah no way, Marv picked him he must be a great guy.....You need 2 links to go along with this statement
1... showing us where anyone is actually defending him
2...showing us where he actually hit her or anything

Because 1, no one's defended him...the people who actually clicked on the link are just saying to wait until the facts are in...and 2, all we have is a harassment charge...no details whatsoever

[Typ0]

I agree.. Get a load of this.. I have a friend who recently got devorced, and his wife did something similar. He has to pay her $80,000.00 a year, for the next 10 years. That's over half of his salary too, ridiculous.

punitive damages are always relevant to how deep the pockets are. they are meant to curb behavior not as compensation. That's why an award for something stupid like this can be 100 grand.

[PECKERWOOD]

punitive damages are always relevant to how deep the pockets are. they are meant to curb behavior not as compensation. That's why an award for something stupid like this can be 100 grand.

Unless her face was beaten in and people actually saw this happen, there is no way he is paying 100 G.

[Crisis]

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[PECKERWOOD]

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[feelthepain]

I think many of you also need to consider the possibility that the woman could also be abusive. Woman can be just a violent as men, maybe not do as much physical damage, but many women hit men and it can get worse over time. If a man was raised never to hit a woman and the woman in question continues to hit the man knowing he won't hit back, there will come a time when it can take it's toll and the man hits back after having taken enough of the abuse.

Many of you are jumping on this as if the man is the only one who should be locked up, but what if the woman is the abuser??? Men aren't going to run to the police out of fear of embarresment or shame. Therefore it festers to the point of an explosion. Many of you claim not to know all the facts and are willing to wait till you know everything before you pass judgment, well you should consider everything that could be a factor in this situation.

I for one think any man who strikes a woman is a coward, however men have every bit as much right to defend themselves as woman. If a woman is smart enough to be given the benefit of the doubt for being the better parent in most custody cases in the US, then they are smart enough to understand you don't pick a fight with someone that outweighs you 2-1. My point is, I feel for those that can't defend themselves, but I don't if your the one bringing the violence on yourself.

[Inetpub]

GUILTY! Throw him in the slammer! Useless ****ing draft picks.