I keep hearing "JP Losman didn't lose the game"

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  • OpIv37
    Acid Douching Asswipe
    • Sep 2002
    • 101230
    #1

    I keep hearing "JP Losman didn't lose the game"

    and I agree. He made some non-critical mistakes, but protected the ball and didn't do anything tremendously stupid. I don't think any of the sacks today were his fault.

    HOWEVER, how does the fact that JP didn't lose the game for us prove he's a good QB?

    He came dangerously close to fumbling the ball on a desperate play- if there's one thing he should have learned after two years behind a **** OL, it's when to take a sack, but he hasn't. He still misses wide open receivers and still looks lost in the endzone.

    Also, isn't an NFL QB supposed to be able to take over a game and win it for you (like, say, Philip Rivers did for SD today)? I know our team isn't built like that, but at what point is JP going to step up and make a big play in a tough game?

    I don't blame JP for the loss at all, but he certainly could have done more to help us win. I'm simply not seeing any progress in him and that has me really concerned.
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  • The_Philster
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 52180
    #2
    Re: I keep hearing "JP Losman didn't lose the game"

    HOWEVER, how does the fact that JP didn't lose the game for us prove he's a good QB?
    and no one has said it did, either...

    At the same time, he can only do so much if the coaches aren't calling plays that enable him to do much
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    • Forward_Lateral
      Registered User
      • Mar 2004
      • 29895
      #3
      Re: I keep hearing "JP Losman didn't lose the game"

      He takes way too many sacks. He holds the ball too long in certain situations, and makes the protection look A LOT worse than it is. He has no pocket awareness or presence. Even when he has time to look down field, he either telegraphs the throw, or is inaccurate with it. He hasn't shown much of an improvement over last year, IMO, and I think his time is slowly coming to an end.
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      • Kerr
        Hall of Fame Zoner
        • Feb 2005
        • 6656
        #4
        Re: I keep hearing "JP Losman didn't lose the game"

        I think thie gameplan was to run on indy all along. I don't think it was a testament of how they feel of jp. You can run on indy, it's a given. I didn't check time of possession, but i'm pretty sure indy held the ball a lot more than the offense, which limited more pass attempts for jp.

        but anyway, I think there seem to be some kind of problem with offensive philsophy between fairchild and jauron. Jauron loves to run it and give his qb very little chance to win the game on their own. He likes to pound the ball and have defense and the runnin game win games. Fairchild is a student of martz, but is more balanced than martz. I think if it were up to fairchild, he'd give jp more chances in every game to show he can win a game on his own, but since jauron is the head coach, there might be a little bit of a compromise between the two week in and week out.

        I think it stinks. Either let jp play his game and revolve the offense around him or get rid of him or get another limited jim miller type of qb in here to run the offense.
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        • HHURRICANE
          Registered User
          • Mar 2005
          • 15490
          #5
          Re: I keep hearing "JP Losman didn't lose the game"

          [quote=Forward_Lateral]He takes way too many sacks. He holds the ball too long in certain situations, and makes the protection look A LOT worse than it is. He has no pocket awareness or presence. quote]

          OMG, did anybody watch the frickin game or are they just too busy looking for any excuse to blame Losman? Losman didn't hang onto the ball too long. PERIOD. OL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Dummies!!!!!!!!!!!
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          • LtBillsFan66
            Registered User
            • Jul 2002
            • 35553
            #6
            Re: I keep hearing "JP Losman didn't lose the game"

            Like I said in another thread, if the bum would convert a damn third down, maybe he'd have more attempts. JP is a bust. Time to face the music.
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            • Forward_Lateral
              Registered User
              • Mar 2004
              • 29895
              #7
              Re: I keep hearing "JP Losman didn't lose the game"

              Originally posted by billsfanone
              Like I said in another thread, if the bum would convert a damn third down, maybe he'd have more attempts. JP is a bust. Time to face the music.
              His QB rating on 3rd downs this season is something like 49.

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              • LtBillsFan66
                Registered User
                • Jul 2002
                • 35553
                #8
                Re: I keep hearing "JP Losman didn't lose the game"

                Originally posted by Forward_Lateral
                His QB rating on 3rd downs this season is something like 49.
                He's a natural born loser.
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                • Dozerdog
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 42586
                  #9
                  Re: I keep hearing "JP Losman didn't lose the game"

                  Drew Brees was 9-11 for 111 yards on third down today.

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                  • Forward_Lateral
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 29895
                    #10
                    Re: I keep hearing "JP Losman didn't lose the game"

                    Originally posted by Dozerdog
                    Drew Brees was 9-11 for 111 yards on third down today.

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                    • LtBillsFan66
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 35553
                      #11
                      Re: I keep hearing "JP Losman didn't lose the game"

                      Guess what? Craig Nall didn't lose the game either...
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                      • TacklingDummy
                        Unreachable Douche
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 71724
                        #12
                        Re: I keep hearing "JP Losman didn't lose the game"

                        There was a stat. they showed during the game that said the Bills had something like 11 plays in the redzone for -2 yards. That's not very good.

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                        • YardRat
                          Well, lookie here...
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 86147
                          #13
                          Re: I keep hearing "JP Losman didn't lose the game"

                          Originally posted by Kerr
                          I think thie gameplan was to run on indy all along. I don't think it was a testament of how they feel of jp. You can run on indy, it's a given. I didn't check time of possession, but i'm pretty sure indy held the ball a lot more than the offense, which limited more pass attempts for jp.

                          but anyway, I think there seem to be some kind of problem with offensive philsophy between fairchild and jauron. Jauron loves to run it and give his qb very little chance to win the game on their own. He likes to pound the ball and have defense and the runnin game win games. Fairchild is a student of martz, but is more balanced than martz. I think if it were up to fairchild, he'd give jp more chances in every game to show he can win a game on his own, but since jauron is the head coach, there might be a little bit of a compromise between the two week in and week out.

                          I think it stinks. Either let jp play his game and revolve the offense around him or get rid of him or get another limited jim miller type of qb in here to run the offense.
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                          • YardRat
                            Well, lookie here...
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 86147
                            #14
                            Re: I keep hearing "JP Losman didn't lose the game"

                            Originally posted by TacklingDummy
                            There was a stat. they showed during the game that said the Bills had something like 11 plays in the redzone for -2 yards. That's not very good.
                            I though it was -8.
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                            • TigerJ
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 22575
                              #15
                              Re: I keep hearing "JP Losman didn't lose the game"

                              Originally posted by Forward_Lateral
                              He takes way too many sacks. He holds the ball too long in certain situations, and makes the protection look A LOT worse than it is. He has no pocket awareness or presence. Even when he has time to look down field, he either telegraphs the throw, or is inaccurate with it. He hasn't shown much of an improvement over last year, IMO, and I think his time is slowly coming to an end.
                              Go back and look at today's game tape and tell me on how many sacks that he held the ball too long. I didn't see many.
                              I've made up my mind. Don't confuse me with the facts.

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