For The Rest of the season here's what we should do w/ JP

[justasportsfan]

Let him throw as much as he did against the Jets. Let him call the plays. It's not fair that he get's blamed for stinking up the place because they force him stay in the pocket and eat the pressure in his face trying to run the playcall from Fairchild. If he calls his own plays, there's no one to blame but him.

If he get's beaten to a pulp because our OL can't pass block, so be it.

At least we get to not only assess him but also the wrs. You can't grade either the QB or wrs if the O isn't allowed to throw the ball. It makes no sense trying to come up with a gameplan to win the game. It's all about seeing what our players can do. Who we keep and who we get rid of.

IF we end up having draft a qb next year because JP either stinks or is dead , we should do the same thing and throw him to the wolves as well. It may not be the best thing for a qb but obviously the haters think it's the way to go whether or not we have an OL.

Fair enough?

[Night Train]

Re: For The Rest of the season here's what we should do w/ JP

Let him throw as much as he did against the Jets. Let him call the plays. It's not fair that he get's blamed for stinking up the place because they force him stay in the pocket and eat the pressure in his face trying to run the playcall from Fairchild. If he calls his own plays, there's no one to blame but him.

If he get's beaten to a pulp because our OL can't pass block, so be it.

At least we get to not only assess him but also the wrs. You can't grade either the QB or wrs if the O isn't allowed to throw the ball. It makes no sense trying to come up with a gameplan to win the game. It's all about seeing what our players can do. Who we keep and who we get rid of.

IF we end up having draft a qb next year because JP either stinks or is dead , we should do the same thing and throw him to the wolves as well. It may not be the best thing for a qb but obviously the haters think it's the way to go whether or not we have an OL.

Fair enough?

Not a bad idea but it's a formula of how to win games with this staff. They have zero confidence in the OL protection, moreso than fearing JP. They wish to reduce the turnovers while hoping to win close games. Anthony Thomas will carry the ball a ton the rest of the way.

Not saying I agree with Jaurons thinking but it's probably a good idea to let JP air it out on some series, like you suggest. Otherwise, the opposition will start putting 8 in the box against us without any worry. We'll be more boring than now, if that's possible.

Another problem is the lack of seperation by all receivers not named Evans. These other WR's and TE's have really let us down witth bad efforts and dropped passes. No QB would be happy with this lack of talent.

[alohabillsfan]

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Make Fletcher play TE atleast he can catch and run! Seriously, the OC needs to simplify the offense, teach hot reads ( I cannot fathom why we cannot make adjustments) get the TE's and RB involved in the passing game, Keep It Simple Stupid!!!!


P.S. FIX THE RED ZONE PLAY CALLING (read incorporate taking a shot into the endzone) A play that works for professional football teams is that you put your #1 Reciever to the TE side and he clears out by running a slant, TE chips DE and leaks into the flat (normally covered by LB) QB pump fake slant (this keeps saftey in middle and then toss to wide open TE for a TD!

[Jan Reimers]

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I agree with both justa and Night Train. Let the kid play and let the chips fall where they may.

We don't have a good enough running game, or enough consistency on D (yet) to win games with a ball control offense, anyway.

I'm not interested in boring, respectable losses. Let's stop worrying about keeping the score close, and see what EVERYONE can do, so that we can make some rational decisions in the offseason to make this team better.

[justasportsfan]

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Another problem is the lack of seperation by all receivers not named Evans. These other WR's and TE's have really let us down witth bad efforts and dropped passes. No QB would be happy with this lack of talent.

Reed was out against the colts and he's been sure handed this season and he's another wr that JP tends to go to if Evans is double teamed. Let's not blame the loss of JP's other go to guy as partly the reason why we struggled against colts. It's too easy.

Next year, let's keep the same wrs and then see what the new qb can do with them. It really might be just JP. Maybe Royals/Everrett , our OL and wrs are good enough.

[justasportsfan]

Re: For The Rest of the season here's what we should do w/ JP

P.S. FIX THE RED ZONE PLAY CALLING (read incorporate taking a shot into the endzone) A play that works for professional football teams is that you put your #1 Reciever to the TE side and he clears out by running a slant, TE chips DE and leaks into the flat (normally covered by LB) QB pump fake slant (this keeps saftey in middle and then toss to wide open TE for a TD!

I saw nothing wrong with trying to run the ball in the redzone against a team with a horrible run D. It helps assesss what we have in the OL and rb position .

I know it's stupid but it also makes it easier to blame JP for the lack of TD as far as the haters are concerned. Why not, JP is the leader of this team and is also responsible for the running game in the redzone.

Next time, just let JP call his own plays especially in the redzone. There are certain plays he's comfortable with and thinks he can pull off. Most coaches asks the qb what they think they should run. It's part of developing JP's decision making.

[spacecowboy]

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While we're talking about JP throwing the ball, I was wondering how many passes have been crossing routes? Wouldn't this be a logical thing to do with the lack of pass protection? I think this type of play would be perfect for Parrish, although I think he might get creamed once and awhile.

[justasportsfan]

Re: For The Rest of the season here's what we should do w/ JP

While we're talking about JP throwing the ball, I was wondering how many passes have been crossing routes? Wouldn't this be a logical thing to do with the lack of pass protection? I think this type of play would be perfect for Parrish, although I think he might get creamed once and awhile.

this is what Greenbay and the colts did to us all day. Inside slantsup the middle. I was wondering why we don't do this since we have speedy wr's with awsome first steps. Could it be because our interior OL collapses that JP can't see up the middle unlike the colts' and greenbay's OL? Na, let's not blame the OL , that's too easy again.

Let Jp call his own plays next time and when the middle of the OL breaks down, let him be allowed to run away instead of staying in there and finish the play like Fairchild wants him to.

[ICE74129]

Re: For The Rest of the season here's what we should do w/ JP

Let him throw as much as he did against the Jets. Let him call the plays. It's not fair that he get's blamed for stinking up the place because they force him stay in the pocket and eat the pressure in his face trying to run the playcall from Fairchild. If he calls his own plays, there's no one to blame but him.

If he get's beaten to a pulp because our OL can't pass block, so be it.

At least we get to not only assess him but also the wrs. You can't grade either the QB or wrs if the O isn't allowed to throw the ball. It makes no sense trying to come up with a gameplan to win the game. It's all about seeing what our players can do. Who we keep and who we get rid of.

IF we end up having draft a qb next year because JP either stinks or is dead , we should do the same thing and throw him to the wolves as well. It may not be the best thing for a qb but obviously the haters think it's the way to go whether or not we have an OL.

Fair enough?

I agree give him 15 pass plays, 8 run plays and let him go no huddle and let him call his own plays.

I agree completely. If he is going to take all the **** for this team then put him in a position to truely take the blame.

[PECKERWOOD]

Re: For The Rest of the season here's what we should do w/ JP

I'm all for letting JP pass more. But letting him call the plays? He can barely call a timeout at appropriate times. Man, if he is put in a position similar to what Peyton Manning does, we are going to see penalty after penalty.

[Night Train]

Re: For The Rest of the season here's what we should do w/ JP

Next year, let's keep the same wrs and then see what the new qb can do with them.

Good Lord

I challenge you to sit in the stands during the home games and actually view the horrid lack of seperation by these WR's and TE's. They stop moving and fail to find the open space more often than not.

I know Josh Reed is a good blocker and can get positive yardage after the catch by breaking tackles. I also realize he's a #3 slot receiver and isn't above quitting on some routes. Price and Andre Davis share a habit of hearing footsteps and quit all the time. Davis saves his job with his ST gunner ability but giving these guys a pass, let alone throwing them one, isn't sound logic. Neither TE has shown me much.

Why is JP holdiong on to the ball too long on many plays ? I know why. The view from the stands doesn't lie.

[justasportsfan]

Re: For The Rest of the season here's what we should do w/ JP

I'm all for letting JP pass more. But letting him call the plays? He can barely call a timeout at appropriate times. Man, if he is put in a position similar to what Peyton Manning does, we are going to see penalty after penalty.

I said that, because haters blame JP for anything that the OC calls anyways. Might as well let himcall it so the blame falls on himself and no one else.

[PECKERWOOD]

Re: For The Rest of the season here's what we should do w/ JP

Good Lord

I challenge you to sit in the stands during the home games and actually view the horrid lack of seperation by these WR's and TE's. They stop moving and fail to find the open space more often than not.

I know Josh Reed is a good blocker and can get positive yardage after the catch by breaking tackles. I also realize he's a #3 slot receiver and isn't above quitting on some routes. Price and Andre Davis share a habit of hearing footsteps and quit all the time. Davis saves his job with his ST gunner ability but giving these guys a pass, let alone throwing them one, isn't sound logic. Neither TE has shown me much.

Why is JP holdiong on to the ball too long on many plays ? I know why. The view from the stands doesn't lie.

I agree with your post.. Reed is a good #3 guy for sure. Parrish is good in certain situations, also.. But for the most part our WR's suck. We have one number 1 WR. And a solid #3, and a very good #4 in Roscoe. Marv better draft a big WR in the 1st or 2nd round, either that, or hopefully there is some talent available through FA.

[justasportsfan]

Re: For The Rest of the season here's what we should do w/ JP

Good Lord

I challenge you to sit in the stands during the home games and actually view the horrid lack of seperation by these WR's and TE's. They stop moving and fail to find the open space more often than not.

I know Josh Reed is a good blocker and can get positive yardage after the catch by breaking tackles. I also realize he's a #3 slot receiver and isn't above quitting on some routes. Price and Andre Davis share a habit of hearing footsteps and quit all the time. Davis saves his job with his ST gunner ability but giving these guys a pass, let alone throwing them one, isn't sound logic. Neither TE has shown me much.

Why is JP holdiong on to the ball too long on many plays ? I know why. The view from the stands doesn't lie.

Let the next qb have the same supporting cast. That way the haters can prove to us it was all JP fault and that he's had enough weapons.

[madness]

Re: For The Rest of the season here's what we should do w/ JP

JP is not the problem. People's patience is.