is Troy smith

[THE END OF ALL DAYS]

I dont watch much college football... is troy smith pro material?

[Slim]

Very much so.

[TigerJ]

I think probably. He is smaller than is typical, but he's bigger than Flutie, and other QBs have proven you don't have to be 6'3" or better to be successful. I think he goes 6'0" - 6'1". I think he's smarter than Michael Vick and Vince Young, has an excellent arm and is not all about looking to run at first opportunity. Frankly he's got a lot of the same tooks as ** ******. he's just a little smaller, and plays in a big time college offense that is much closer to the pro game. He won't have as difficult a time adjusting to the pro game.

[STAMPY]

Will Troy Smith be in reaching distance to Bills in draft? Will he last to 5th pick

[Mitchy moo]

Will Troy Smith be in reaching distance to Bills in draft? Will he last to 5th pick

5th?? try 2nd.

[STAMPY]

no elite QB for us :(

[SABURZFAN]

no elite QB for us :(


other areas on the offense needs to be addressed before we think about that.

[RockStar36]

He looks very good so far today

[evol4276]

I dont watch much college football... is troy smith pro material?
from what i'm seeing today, yes. tho this is the first or second time i've seen him

[Ron Burgundy]

Troy Smith is the man.

We need to draft him. He would be an instant upgrade, and if we can get him in the 2nd round so much the better. Smith's poised, with a strong, accurate arm and great running ability. But the key is that he reads defenses well and he makes the right decision with the football.

[Dr. Lecter]

You really think there is any chance of him being there in round #2?

[Forward_Lateral]

You really think there is any chance of him being there in round #2?

The announcers said he's slated to be a 2nd or 3rd round pick. I nearly choked when I heard that.

[SABURZFAN]

You really think there is any chance of him being there in round #2?


yes

[Ron Burgundy]

So much the better if he is.

[LtFinFan66]

I don't see him lasting till the 2nd but weirder things have happened

[SABURZFAN]

I don't see him lasting till the 2nd but weirder things have happened


you have to remember though,our 2nd rounder may be the 35th pick overall.

[LtFinFan66]

:scratch:

[RockStar36]

If he is available in the 2nd round I see no reason why they shouldn't take him.

[SABURZFAN]

If he is available in the 2nd round I see no reason why they shouldn't take him.


as long as we address other areas on the offense,then i would say yes.but if we draft him and do nothing for protection,it's like shooting ourselves in the foot.

[YardRat]

I'm not a real fan of his mechanics...seems to me he carries the ball too low and has too big of a wind-up.

[Bmax]

Wow...what a game by smith ...He truly showed his leadership and toughness...
Herbsteit was right he does remind you a little of Drew Brees. I say a little bit of Mcnabb also.. Right now his height will keep in the bottom 1st or top 2nd rd.. Rememeber Brees was a 2nd round pick. I would trade down and draft him in the bottom 2nd in or top 2nd in a heartbeat. A trade Would give us two picks in the top 50 players.

Bmax

[ParanoidAndroid]

Wouldn't this be the Godsend of all drafts?
Trade down:
1. Zach Miller TE
2. Troy Smith
3a. Tim Duckworth OG
3b. Doug Free OT

[Ron Burgundy]

I don't think Free will last that long, but that'd be fine with me. I like Zach Miller, too.

[Tatonka]

troy smith will win the heisman and will probably win the national championship. there is still alot of time for him to move up well into the first. you may see him keep rising..

remember, phillip rivers was projected to be a late 2nd to 3rd round pick about this time as well.. and we see how that went.

[Ickybaluky]

I think Smith drops because of his size. If he were a couple inches taller, I think he would be the #1 overall pick. However, the fact is he is only 6-1 (probably not even that) and that will hurt his draft stock.

With a few exceptions, short QB struggle in the NFL. Smith has about everything you want, but he isn't real big. I don't think he drops completely out of the first round, but I don't see him going top-10.

As far as how good I think he will be, I think at worst he will be a Senaca Wallace-type. He may end up as good as a Rex Grossman as well, but I don't think his game will translate to his being better than that in the NFL.

[LtFinFan66]

I think Smith drops because of his size. If he were a couple inches taller, I think he would be the #1 overall pick. However, the fact is he is only 6-1 (probably not even that) and that will hurt his draft stock.

With a few exceptions, short QB struggle in the NFL. Smith has about everything you want, but he isn't real big. I don't think he drops completely out of the first round, but I don't see him going top-10.

As far as how good I think he will be, I think at worst he will be a Senaca Wallace-type. He may end up as good as a Rex Grossman as well, but I don't think his game will translate to his being better than that in the NFL.He has the "It" factor. That doesn't translate onto paper

[ajsdx]

One thing we know for sure is that he can consistently handle hype/pressure and makes good decisions in big-time spots like very few other college qbs. his windup does look weird (as someone mentioned), and he is shorter than you'd normally want, but his performance in big games is definitely going to translate well into the nfl.

[bluehaze]

I was more impressed with Henne, he doesnt have Ginn! Troy Smith will probably win the Heismann so not much chance of him slipping to the second round and my personal opinion is he won't do as well in the pro's anyway, although I am sure many will disagree. Quinn will most likely carry his success accross to the NFL but he is likely to be drafted very highly.

[LtFinFan66]

I was more impressed with Henne, he doesnt have Ginn! Troy Smith will probably win the Heismann so not much chance of him slipping to the second round and my personal opinion is he won't do as well in the pro's anyway, although I am sure many will disagree. Quinn will most likely carry his success accross to the NFL but he is likely to be drafted very highly.No, he is stuck with Manningham, Breaston, and Arrington. Poor, poor Henne. He did look good but please don't give me this "he doesn't have Ginn" crap. Ginn isn't even the best receiver on the Buckeyes team

[bluehaze]

No, he is stuck with Manningham, Breaston, and Arrington. Poor, poor Henne. He did look good but please don't give me this "he doesn't have Ginn" crap. Ginn isn't even the best receiver on the Buckeyes team

I know many will disagree it is just my gut feeling more than anything...mebbe too much beer or something...

I was impressed with Henne under pressure though, and I'll bet you 1'000 ZB's Ginn gets drafted long before any other WR on his team.

Edit: Oops I mean 866.42 ZB's , hey everytime I edit my post I get more ZB's!!! :lol:

[LtFinFan66]

Manningham was the best receiver on the field today...and I'll take that bet

[bluehaze]

Manningham had a great day for sure, but Henne still managed a TD during a crucial point of the game when Manningham was on the sidelines. I was more impressed with Henne than Smith today was all...dunno man

[bluehaze]

K.O. On the bet, hopefully I still have the ZB's when the time comes! :lol:

If I keep editting my posts I will have plenty :lol:

[LtFinFan66]

K.O. On the bet, hopefully I still have the ZB's when the time comes! :lol:

If I keep editting my posts I will have plenty :lol:Oh, I misread...I thought you said Ginn would be drafted before any of the other receivers (meaning Michigans too) My bad....remind me on draft day and I will pay up:up:

[LtFinFan66]

though you may have to wait several years because some Soph. and Freshman receivers may become great!!!

[bluehaze]

LOL Good point, I will make it more fair though, I'll bet that Ginn goes before any other senior on the field today, It will make the draft more fun to watch! 800 ZB's says Ginn gets drafted before any other senior reciever on the field in the OSU/Mich game today!

[LtFinFan66]

If he comes out early of course!:up:

[bluehaze]

LOL chit, Your a good man LT! You coulda suckered me on that bet, I thought he was a senior :laughing:

[PECKERWOOD]

He has the "It" factor. That doesn't translate onto paper

True, its not the size of the bite, its the size of the fight in the dog. Something like that. :D

[jamze132]

Troy Smith is the man.

We need to draft him. He would be an instant upgrade, and if we can get him in the 2nd round so much the better. Smith's poised, with a strong, accurate arm and great running ability. But the key is that he reads defenses well and he makes the right decision with the football.
2nd round? Are you serious? The guy will be off the board by pick #3.

[Night Train]

2nd round? Are you serious? The guy will be off the board by pick #3.

I seriously doubt it.

[jamze132]

I seriously doubt it.
Discuss

[Jan Reimers]

Troy Smith is the man.

We need to draft him. He would be an instant upgrade, and if we can get him in the 2nd round so much the better. Smith's poised, with a strong, accurate arm and great running ability. But the key is that he reads defenses well and he makes the right decision with the football.
Not to discredit his ability or your opinion, but how much poise will he have with the D in his face in 2.6 seconds, and with TEs who can't catch the ball and one good WR? And we have a guy with a strong arm and running ability, but he is allowed to use neither.

I'm convinced that we would be wasting a pick on any QB until we make an investment in the O line, a pass catching TE, and a quality 2nd WR.

[patmoran2006]

You really think there is any chance of him being there in round #2?
No

[Dicknoze69]

Mort just said that Troy Smith will be a 2nd round pick tops because even though he's listed at 6'1", he's really probably only 5'11".

Personally, I love the guy. He has "It".

[patmoran2006]

we'll see..

He's going in the first round I think.. I dont care what anybody says

[Dicknoze69]

I agree with you Pat. I think he'll go in the 1st round after the National Championship game and workouts. Some team will fall in love with him regardless of his size.

[X-Era]

I think probably. He is smaller than is typical, but he's bigger than Flutie, and other QBs have proven you don't have to be 6'3" or better to be successful. I think he goes 6'0" - 6'1". I think he's smarter than Michael Vick and Vince Young, has an excellent arm and is not all about looking to run at first opportunity. Frankly he's got a lot of the same tooks as ** ******. he's just a little smaller, and plays in a big time college offense that is much closer to the pro game. He won't have as difficult a time adjusting to the pro game.

according to condraft hes 5-11. Thats a bit onthe short side, but certainly not Flutie-esque :doh2:

[Ron Burgundy]

Not to discredit his ability or your opinion, but how much poise will he have with the D in his face in 2.6 seconds, and with TEs who can't catch the ball and one good WR? And we have a guy with a strong arm and running ability, but he is allowed to use neither.

I'm convinced that we would be wasting a pick on any QB until we make an investment in the O line, a pass catching TE, and a quality 2nd WR.

We do need help at wideout and on the line, and these issues should also be addressed at the proper spots.

We also need a quarterback with the ability to read a defense, quickly go through his progressions, make the right decision, and win some ballgames. I think Troy can do that. But I know JP Losman can't do that.

[YardRat]

I agree with any those who put Henne over Smith as far as pro potential goes.

If I were in the war room, it was my pick, and I had to choose between the two, I'd take Henne.

[Bmax]

I don't think Free will last that long, but that'd be fine with me. I like Zach Miller, too.



Actually is starting to drop after a sub par senior season ... He 's gottta turn it around at the all star games and combine...Right now they are saying 4th or 5th rd ......ACCORDING TO SCOUTS INC..


Bmax

[don137]

I love Troy Smith but the problem is he is small. That is the number one problem with him. Add a few inches and he is a top ten pick...