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Could anyone tell me of all the other QB's that have started every game for their team - which are he better than?
I'll only put up Mike Vick and Jake Plummer. MAYBE Charlie Frye
Tell me who he's better than and why.
Funny how you say QB's that have started EVERY game. Many QB's that were starters at the beginning of the season, lost their jobs to better players. So I will include a list of all QB's he is better than, the ones that haven't started the full season will have an asterisk by their names. It is also unfair to compare him to QB's on superior teams, but oh well.
I would rather have JP over any of these QB's:
David Carr
Mark Brunell *
Alex Smith
Brett Favre
John Kitna
Byron Leftwich *
David Gerrard *
Steve McNair
Michael Vick
Charlie Frye
Eli Manning
Ben Roethlisberger *
Brad Johnson Joey Harrington * Dante Culpepper *
Bruce Gradkowski *
Chris Simms *
Seneca Wallace *
Funny how you say QB's that have started EVERY game. Many QB's that were starters at the beginning of the season, lost their jobs to better players. So I will include a list of all QB's he is better than, the ones that haven't started the full season will have an asterisk by their names. It is also unfair to compare him to QB's on superior teams, but oh well.
I would rather have JP over any of these QB's:
David Carr
Mark Brunell *
Alex Smith
Brett Favre
John Kitna
Byron Leftwich *
Steve McNair
Michael Vick
Charlie Frye
Eli Manning
Ben Roethlisberger *
Brad Johnson Joey Harrington * Dante Culpepper *
Bruce Gradkowski *
Chris Simms *
Seneca Wallace *
Where are you reading this at? Ofcourse not. I hope Buffalo doesn't run Losman out of town the same way Detroit did to Harrington.. As you can see, it's looking like Miami got a steal and Detroit made a critical mistake..
Where are you reading this at? Ofcourse not. I hope Buffalo doesn't run Losman out of town the same way Detroit did to Harrington.. As you can see, it's looking like Miami got a steal..
Buddy, the only person you can put Losman up against are the people in his class. People that get a free ride. You can't compare him to benched people like Brunell or Culpepper.
Buddy, the only person you can put Losman up against are the people in his class. People that get a free ride. You can't compare him to benched people like Brunell or Culpepper.
Why can't I? I'm sorry I don't play by the rules, but I promise to keep things in proportion. I compared him to starting QB's and benched QB's. See asterisk next to 'x' players name. Many of the QB's on my list with an asterisk have played the majority of the season. I refuse to take a QB off the list because they were simply injured for a couple of games. Plus, when I compiled this list, I wasn't basing it off of stats, so how many starts a QB had, is irrelevant.
Why can't I? I'm sorry I don't play by the rules, but I promise to keep things in proportion. I compared him to starting QB's and benched QB's. See asterisk next to 'x' players name. Many of the QB's on my list with an asterisk have played the majority of the season. I refuse to take a QB off the list because they were simply injured for a couple of games. Plus, when I compiled this list, I wasn't basing it off of stats, so how many starts a QB had, is irrelevant.
Obviously you didn't base it off stats. You didn't base off anything but homerism. Kitna, McNair, Carr, Favre, Leftwich, Manning, Roethlisbeger, Harrington are all without a doubt better than Losman.
Obviously you didn't base it off stats. You didn't base off anything but homerism. Kitna, McNair, Carr, Favre, Leftwich, Manning, Roethlisbeger, Harrington are all without a doubt better than Losman.
No thanks to Kitna, McNair, Carr and Leftwich. They may be better then JP but I still don't want them as my QB.
JP Losman is still a work in progress. He is on a learning curve. I don't think Dick Jauron is just doing coachspeak when he talks about Losman learning and growing. That means that the JP Losman who played against the Texans is a good bit better than the JP Losman who played against New England in the opener. I think the JP Losman who plays against Baltimore will be a fair amount better than the JP Losman who played against Houston, but we won't know that for certain until or unless it happens.
Now, QBs like Alex Smith, Bruce Gradkowski and Charlie Frye, and even Eli Manning and Ben Roethlisberger to some extent are also in a learning curve. Only God can predict where these guys are going to end up in terms of their ability to be NFL QBs. That's why I can't and won't play your little game. I like my chances with JP right now, and I'd just as soon ride him until I know what kind of horse he is.
I've made up my mind. Don't confuse me with the facts.
I'm the most reasonable poster here. If you don't agree, I'll be forced to have a hissy fit.
you know what...stats dont mean crap. talent does. if JP shows more of what he did last week against good teams, like Jacksonville, i think we're on something. but for right now, this whole comparing JP to other QB's is tired, and old..and really it feels like everyoens just trying to convince themselves that he's good/bad. you can't judge a young, inconsistant QB on a really mediocre team game by game. wait til this season is over..i like what i saw last week, but again...it WAS houston. i want to see him ride out the season, see how the team comes off this awesome win, and then we can say if he's good or not. but right now he's sucked so bad, and done good also this season, it's really hard to say anything about him definitively. this is comparing apples and oranges...JP has had such a crap situation with mularkey, TD, the components of the team, all the other QB's drafted with him have TOTALLY different situations...
Obviously you didn't base it off stats. You didn't base off anything but homerism. Kitna, McNair, Carr, Favre, Leftwich, Manning, Roethlisbeger, Harrington are all without a doubt better than Losman.
Obviously you didn't base it off stats. You didn't base off anything but homerism. Kitna, McNair, Carr, Favre, Leftwich, Manning, Roethlisbeger, Harrington are all without a doubt better than Losman.
Did you step in something? What are you basing that on? Obviously not stats!!
Here's a few stats that are not contingent on playing time...
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