What a crock

**spacecowboy** · 12-05-2006, 10:50 PM

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Yeah I heard about this, just ridiculous.

**Devin** · 12-05-2006, 10:58 PM

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I could understand if it came from suppliments or whatever but friggin asthma medicine. Give me a break.

**evol4276** · 12-05-2006, 11:35 PM

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i take that stuff... its freakin rediculous they GIVE you them at the hospital if you would have to go in for asthma-related problems. this is complete bull

**gr8slayer** · 12-05-2006, 11:41 PM

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Damn, they are playing the Cowboys this week, I wanted to see the Saints destroy them. Hopefully his backup can do it as well as he does.

**ublinkwescore** · 12-06-2006, 01:05 AM

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Originally posted by gr8slayer

Damn, they are playing the Cowboys this week, I wanted to see the Saints destroy them. Hopefully his backup can do it as well as he does.

Why can't they delay it like the NFL did for RoidBoy Merriman?

**jamze132** · 12-06-2006, 03:45 AM

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If indeed the meds made him piss hot, than it is a travesty. But what I will say is that if you have a health condition that is so bad that you have to take steroids so you don't die, you might want to find another career. It sucks but that's real life.

**BuffaloRanger** · 12-06-2006, 03:57 AM

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That's silly. Lots of people have asthma, and take this steroid, what career should they look for?

"Sorry even though you are good enough to play in the NFL and make a million a year, you should go be a greeter at Walmart."

**YardRat** · 12-06-2006, 05:37 AM

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Originally posted by BuffaloRanger

That's silly. Lots of people have asthma, and take this steroid, what career should they look for?

"Sorry even though you are good enough to play in the NFL and make a million a year, you should go be a greeter at Walmart."

He had the opportunity to get a college degree, most likely for free. Did he?

**!Papacrunk!** · 12-06-2006, 06:18 AM

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That is really bad, asthma medication??? When Sammy Morris served his 4 game suspension earlier this season, it was due to him taking Sudafed for his cold. He now says when he gets a cold, he'll stick to taking vitamin C and drinking a lot of ornage juice as well.

**jamze132** · 12-06-2006, 07:10 AM

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I am unsure about all of these players pissing hot for working out too hard while taking creatine, sipping on some Sudafed, and asthma medication. I have a hard time believing that the NFL would suspend someone for these rediculous ideas. If it were that easy to be tarnished and labled as a cheater, I think the NFLPA would raise their voice. I think there is more than meets the eye in some of these cases, and what is said is the fact that we will probably never know the true story.

I am pretty sure if the NFL could prove that someone who pissed hot because of caugh medicine would allow that person to play. And I am guessing since the player's were suspended that the NFL couldn't prove that the guy wasn't cheating.

**ICE74129** · 12-06-2006, 07:15 AM

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See its all the IOC bull ****. The IOC has become such tight asses over the steroid issue its screwing good people/ athletes.

There is a major difference between an ANABOLIC Steroid meant to enhance athletic peformance and a steroid for health conditions.

If these asses from the NFL were as up to speed on this subject and as smart as they THINK they are, this would be a non issue.

Personally I hope he sues the ever loving **** out of the NFL and makes it a federal case that could be heard before the Supreme court. The NFL is a mulit BILLION dollar industry and if they are this damn stupid they deserve to lose a nice chunk of money.

It never seems to amaze me how common sense is thrown out the window.

**ICE74129** · 12-06-2006, 07:19 AM

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Originally posted by jamze132

I am unsure about all of these players pissing hot for working out too hard while taking creatine, sipping on some Sudafed, and asthma medication. I have a hard time believing that the NFL would suspend someone for these rediculous ideas. If it were that easy to be tarnished and labled as a cheater, I think the NFLPA would raise their voice. I think there is more than meets the eye in some of these cases, and what is said is the fact that we will probably never know the true story.

I am pretty sure if the NFL could prove that someone who pissed hot because of caugh medicine would allow that person to play. And I am guessing since the player's were suspended that the NFL couldn't prove that the guy wasn't cheating.

See here is what you are missing, the STANDARD established by the IOC (which is what the NFL Uses ) Is pure and absolute crap. I have been drug tested several times in the sports I have competed in. Hell I was with Shane Hammond down in OKC working on some olympic lifts and the IOC Bastards came in and demanded a test from him right then! he laughed and said its no big deal, that one day they waited for him after church let out!

The problem is the STANDARD they use to test. ANY trace of anything that can give you any boost at all and you are busted. Go check out the standards they are flat assinine. Hell if you go to a meet of any sort where the USOC or the IOC is testing and you had too much coffee that morning, and you will test positive!

A major org like the NFLPA needs to file a federal suit against the NFL and the IOC standards and force them to be changed

**jamze132** · 12-06-2006, 07:47 AM

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Originally posted by ICE74129

See here is what you are missing, the STANDARD established by the IOC (which is what the NFL Uses ) Is pure and absolute crap. I have been drug tested several times in the sports I have competed in. Hell I was with Shane Hammond down in OKC working on some olympic lifts and the IOC Bastards came in and demanded a test from him right then! he laughed and said its no big deal, that one day they waited for him after church let out!

The problem is the STANDARD they use to test. ANY trace of anything that can give you any boost at all and you are busted. Go check out the standards they are flat assinine. Hell if you go to a meet of any sort where the USOC or the IOC is testing and you had too much coffee that morning, and you will test positive!

A major org like the NFLPA needs to file a federal suit against the NFL and the IOC standards and force them to be changed

if the NFL has adopted the same guidelines as olympic testing than whoever pisses hot for coffee is doomed and there ain't **** they can do about it. Obviously, the NFLPA and owners agreed on whatever it is they agreed on so I don't see why he would have a legitimate arguement.

However I will say IMO, I think the NFL drug testing program sucks ass and should be reviewed and changed. And I understand the different types of steroids and what they are used for. In the Army, we are testing for steroids now and one of my soldiers came up hot, but since he was prescribed them to help diagnose a possibel problem, we was off the hook. The NFL needs to review each test individually and go from there.

I am sure BuffaloRanger knows a thing or two about steroids!

disclaimer to above statement - It's cool with me! lol

**Lexwhat** · 12-07-2006, 03:18 AM

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Originally posted by jamze132

If indeed the meds made him piss hot, than it is a travesty. But what I will say is that if you have a health condition that is so bad that you have to take steroids so you don't die, you might want to find another career. It sucks but that's real life.

I wouldnt pass up an opportunity to play in the NFL. I'm sure he's got a lot of medical supervision and some of the top doctors monitoring him.

And the "health condition that is so bad that you have to take steroid so you don't die" kind of sounds misleading. I have asthma, but it's nothing serious. If I was 300+ pounds and playing in the NFL, even a minor asthma condition requires attention. I would guess that his condition otherwise (outside of the NFL) probally isn't that bad.

But again, he has a lot of medical attention.

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