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On WNSA this morning, he was asked about PP signing the Franchise tag contract. TD said we told him that's fine, BUT all the visits STOP, PP is again sole property of the Buffalo Bills.
I'll love him if he doesn't sign anymore Posey's and starts signing some defensive help!
So far this offseason I'm not too incredibly impressed. Neither are some others as I'm understanding it.
Sometimes I wonder if TD's simply trying to win this battle with Price and McGee over winning the battle of improving the defense!
This will all go away if he trades Price for a first or second rounder this week.
And this move about "visits stopping", well, wouldn't that pretty much mean that Price plays with Buffalo this season? Yes, yes I think it would. With so many glaring needs on D this upcoming season, I really have to question whether that is smart or simply stubborn.
As well, I am guessing that if Price doesn't draw the kind of interest that he is seeking, that McGee/Price may sign that daggoned thing. If that happens, he doesn't help us very much at all. In fact, what we have is a bad situation much like the one that will be created in Cincy w/ Spikes. We'll have WR who is a "lame duck" in terms of future here. One who didn't want to be here. One who won't be the #1 guy and therefore unhappy, especially since he's likely to not have as many catches this year as last.
I don't see this development as necessarily being positive at all. It's a development, but I'd put it in the neutral category. TD is playing a high risk/high stakes game of russion roulette here.
I've been saying this for weeks that we'll need the money to sign some good defensive guys and it keeps getting poo-poo'd by being told that we have $8M bucks to spend. Well, now we're under $7 presumably, and what, we've got some guy named Posey! Big deal. Meanwhile, another $5M is tied up w/ Price. Wit that money we could sign Peterson (over Price in an equal swap), Thornton, and Johnstone easily.
But NOOOO!!! We've gotta play games w/ Price in holding out for a late first round pick that will only cost us more money that we may not have and that is no guarantee either.
I just don't get it. Let's fix this blasted D and get on with it. I'm tired of signing "bargain" players that we are told will help the team. B.S.
Let's sign some that actually will! Where are the Bruce Smiths, Daryl Talleys, Chris Spielmans, and others that made us great in the '90s. Two CBs ain't cuttin' it.
Replace Donahoe with Modrak and fire the entire coaching staff!
And this also assumes that there's a ton of interest for him out there as well. So far in spite of all the fan enthusiasm on this board and amongst Bills fans in general, and understandably so, I haven't read a thing other than about a "visit" to Atlanta.
I would assume that if they are serious about trading a first rounder then we'll here some news today or tomorrow about how the visit went swimmingly.
If not, then who are we gonna trade him to that will give us a first rounder? I'm not exactly seeing teams leap at the opportunity to make such a trade. It may simply come down to taking a third rounder or something less. Will TD do that? Or is he so hell bent on winning this negotiation with McGee that it's gonna cost the team?
I'll say this now, this thing with Price is getting so high profile, that TD's offseason performance is gonna live or die with this Price thing if it goes beyond this week.
Replace Donahoe with Modrak and fire the entire coaching staff!
Im with ya Wys, TD needs to get this Price thing over with or we'll miss a lot of the players we've targetted before the offseason. This thing better happen quick.
And let's face it too, we're not gonna fix the D by signing low cost players. We're simply gonna have to sign a proven player or two that may cost us something more than $2M. That's just life in the NFL these days.
Someone cited the example of N.E. in another thread and how they did it, but they had a general level of talent everywhere. We don't. We have non-starters at one DT position, one DE position, 1 LB position, arguably 2 after we see Posey's contributions. One of our S positions could use an upgrade.
N.E. didn't have such holes.
Replace Donahoe with Modrak and fire the entire coaching staff!
If it means signing Peterson and some DT help, then yes.
If to get a draft pick while we sign 4 other players like Posey, then yes!
If we can get the draft pick, GREAT! Heck, let's get two first rounders. But how long are we willing to wait on this. I'm not saying time is up, but Noble just signed along with many other players, some of which would have suited us.
I just think that this foregone assumption that every team out there views Price as a first round pick is presumptuous. Bledsoe barely went for a first last year. If we hadn't offered it, he wouldn't have! Who's better? Price or Bledsoe? Which position is easier to fill generally speaking? QB or WR?
This assuming that we're gonna get a first is silly. We may, but if we do, I suspect it will happen this week sometime. McGee ain't gonna wait until all the teams who desparately need a WR fill up their cap room before signing our offer.
The question to you is who is more valuable to us this year coming up? A Peterson, or Price? Even if we just drop the tag, the money can be used for a Peterson. BUT, only if he's still available, not after other teams sign him, eh.
Replace Donahoe with Modrak and fire the entire coaching staff!
Wys First off I agree with you almost totally, I wish we would have never tagged him. Now that we have, the reason I think this is a good thing is when TD says he is sole property of the Bills. See to me PP and his agent want to cash in big with this contract. If PP is bound by the one year contract, he can't until next year, and there in lies PP problem. What if he gets hurt, and what if this year was just cause he was in a contract year? These are the things PP and his agent have to think about. So the threat of PP signing the 1 year deal is now just a threat, cause they know TD won't trade him after it is signed, but there is hope TD will trade him if he doesn't sign.
If we tagged him ets make it worth wild.
I would rather see TD make the best deal for Price, even if it takes some time, that to run out and overpay for a guy like Peterson. If you go out and overpay, you'll be stuck with that decision for years to come.
So, yeah, I'd rather see him sign 4 Posey's and get a couple of decent draft picks than let Price go for nothing and spend $5+ for a LB who has never played in a Pro Bowl.
I hate to see Price go because he is very good. But we need defensive help, there's no way around it. TD hasn't lost anything by not making a move yet. This week will be telling.
Don't forget, TD is a freakin football animal.
We still have $6.8 million to play with.........that's plenty of money to sign players. TD can still create millions as well. I think TD has done an incredible job in 2 yrs and not EVERY move is gonna work out as hoped.
4 more players like Posey and our D won't be any better and we'll be out of cap.
kgun,
I hear ya. I don't disagree with the tag, IF, it gets resolved quickly. Price is expendible. Right now we don't even have qualified starters in several key positions on D.
You have to look at the marginal utility of each situation. Peterson for the same bucks we'd spend on Price to me would be a good deal. I don't think Peterson would be more, possibly even less. While having Price here would be nice, it's absolutely not necessary and there's a chance that the O wouldn't miss a beat w/ him gone given Reed's quick development.
Unfortunately, we can't say the same thing about the D. It's a mess. We have essentially 8 starters out of 11 and that's with Posey as a starter. WLB, DT, DE we have currently no valid starters for. To boot, of those 8 starters, 4 of them are marginal in Prioleau, Wire, Posey, and Schobel. They're decent, but will only cut the mustard w/ a D around them.
I'm still holding out hope that Wire becomes an animal in the Ray Lynch mold. But it took Lynch 4 seasons and Wire wasn't an animal last year although he showed promise. Prioleau and Schobel are decent, but nothing to write home about. Posey, well, based on his past record, which is all we have to go by, I wouldn't be surprised if he were the weak link on our D this upcoming season.
But again, the bottom line, you have to look at the marginal utility and the upgrade at each position. Kind of like going from 3-13 to 8-8. Getting Peterson would be the record equivalent of going from 3-13 to 12-4 at the LB position whereas Price to Reed may be 13-3 to 11-5.
Replace Donahoe with Modrak and fire the entire coaching staff!
Originally posted by clumping platelets We still have $6.8 million to play with.........that's plenty of money to sign players. TD can still create millions as well. I think TD has done an incredible job in 2 yrs and not EVERY move is gonna work out as hoped.
AMEN!!!!
Too early to start grading TD's offseason moves. Anyone remember how late in the FA Drew was signed?
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