I can't believe that we are still talking about JP!!!

[HHURRICANE]

This is where it's a waste to argue with the unrealistic.

As a JP supporter I have never said Losman's awesome or that he's going to be our starter for the next 10 years or he's the "answer". NEVER, EVER ONCE HAVE I EVER SAID THAT.

However, Peyton Manning on this team would not get us in the playoffs. PERIOD. So when the team has so many holes why would we be stupid enough to replace a guy that has better numbers than half of the league including QB's that we had a shot at taking and we didn't.

We are not the Ravens where they had a team but just needed a better QB!!
The irony is that the Ravens are 9-3 and giving McNair alot of the credit but his numbers are IDENTICAL to JP's.

Bring on the counter argument. Oh that's right, after 12 weeks you still don't have one!!

[justasportsfan]

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Hurricane, I can't believe you just fed the trolls.

[HHURRICANE]

Re: I can't believe that we are still talking about JP!!!

Hurricane, I can't believe you just fed the trolls.

I'm not worried because they would have to provide something other than "JP Blows" and "Nall Ball baby".

[emslave]

Re: I can't believe that we are still talking about JP!!!

I'm not worried because they would have to provide something other than "JP Blows" and "Nall Ball baby".

dude Peyton Manning WOULD absolutely get you to the playoffs.....

Evans...McGahee....Peters....you have some players on O.....

and look at the Indy D they are terrible, last year aside they have been terrible every year. This year they are giving up 5.1 yards per carry to opposing teams.....and its not like the secondary is shutting people down.

I think JP could be ok......but saying peyton wouldnt get you in the playoffs is wrong....he would.

[OpIv37]

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JP threw a pick on Sunday and 3 other balls that should have been picked but were dropped by the DB's. These plays had nothing to do with the other players on the team- they were all on JP himself.

This is why I still have concerns about him. It's the missed wide-open passes and the bad decisions that make me nervous.

In his defense, he has for the most part played better since the bye and had some spectacular games in there. But he always follows that up like he did against SD.

That being said, I don't see a lot of other options at this point.

[Earthquake Enyart]

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I said it by your other post, and I'll say it again.

With Peyton, we beat the Jets, Lions and win the first NE game for sure. We then probably win the Colt and Charger games.

That's 10-2.

[justasportsfan]

Re: I can't believe that we are still talking about JP!!!

JP threw a pick on Sunday and 3 other balls that should have been picked but were dropped by the DB's. These plays had nothing to do with the other players on the team- they were all on JP himself.

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What? JP had no choice but to throw in a crappy weather because there was no running game. Are you implying the other players had nothing to do with the lack of running game and that it was all on JP?

[HHURRICANE]

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That being said, I don't see a lot of other options at this point.

THAT'S MY POINT. Let's fix the bigger problems first. How many losing seasons do we need before we get a Chamionship OL?

JP is definately servicable and that's all I'm saying. JP is not the reason that we are not making the playoffs. Agree?

[Earthquake Enyart]

Re: I can't believe that we are still talking about JP!!!

THAT'S MY POINT. Let's fix the bigger problems first. How many losing seasons do we need before we get a Chamionship OL?

JP is definately servicable and that's all I'm saying. JP is not the reason that we are not making the playoffs. Agree?

No.

[OpIv37]

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What? JP had no choice but to throw in a crappy weather because there was no running game. Are you implying the other players had nothing to do with the lack of running game and that it was all on JP?

what? Are you implying that it's ok for JP to make bad decisions because Willis wasn't running the ball?

[Philagape]

Re: I can't believe that we are still talking about JP!!!

I'm not worried because they would have to provide something other than "JP Blows" and "Nall Ball baby".

Or point out other QBs with better numbers, as if that's supposed to be making a point or something.

[OpIv37]

Re: I can't believe that we are still talking about JP!!!

THAT'S MY POINT. Let's fix the bigger problems first. How many losing seasons do we need before we get a Chamionship OL?

JP is definately servicable and that's all I'm saying. JP is not the reason that we are not making the playoffs. Agree?

I'll agree with that.

[justasportsfan]

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what? Are you implying that it's ok for JP to make bad decisions because Willis wasn't running the ball?

he had to carry the entire O against a top D in crappy weather. He's gonna make his mistakes and if you look at Rivers, he didn't have much of a difference in stats but had a running game, an OL, and D. If Rivers was in JP's shoes last Sunday, I can only imagine what crappy nos. he'd have too.

The running game affects the passing game especially against a top D.

[TacklingDummy]

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I'm not worried because they would have to provide something other than "JP Blows" and "Nall Ball baby".

The only people I seen call for JPs benching were a few of his "supporters" a few weeks back.

Some people call me a JP hater but yet I haven't once said JP should be benched. And neither has SAB that I can recall.

[PECKERWOOD]

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Since we are on the subject of JP. Here is a random thought: I bet JP would look fantastic in the West Coast offense.