You haven't sold out the game?

[Bling]

Why not?

[THATHURMANATOR]

Because the Dolphins are gay.

[LtBillsFan66]

:rofl:

[The_Philster]

:idunno: ask the people who didn't buy tickets....a lot of people who post here are going

[LtFinFan66]

Nice comeback Thurm:down: You have clearly lost your edge after your insult tourney defeat:sad:

[Devin]

Honestly this is very dissapointing, I dont get it.

The other weeks ill give you, but fish week? Just plain weak.

[R. Rich]

I blame Bryan.

[The_Philster]

I blame Bryan.
I do too :scratch:

[PECKERWOOD]

Because a group of Dr.Robotoniks cyborgs took control over the NFL. I slay the cyborgs one at a time with my mystical samurai sword because I am the ninja known as Quick Draw. I ride a dolphin all the way over to Russia with Aqua Man and I destroy the Soviet Union, Ronald Reagen takes credit for my actions, the cold war ends.

[The_Philster]

Hell, even Log is coming to the game

[PECKERWOOD]

Hell, even Log is coming to the game

I am too.

[The_Philster]

I am too.
be sure to swing by the tailgate :up:

[OpIv37]

Pro Player Stadium capacity: 75,000
Miami Metropolitan area population: 2,253,362 (2000)
Ave Temp this time of year: 73 degrees


RW Stadium Capacity: 73,000
Buffalo Metropolitan Area: 1,170,111 (2000)
Ave Temp this time of year: 37 degrees

We're trying to sell out the same size stadium with half the population and half the temperature. Try doubling the size of your stadium then blowing freezing cold air on the stands and see how many games Miami sells out.

[PECKERWOOD]

be sure to swing by the tailgate :up:

Sweet, where is the tailgate at?

[Historian]

Nobody wants to see the pathetic-ass fish anymore....

[LtFinFan66]

:blah:

[Michael82]

Honestly this is very dissapointing, I dont get it.

The other weeks ill give you, but fish week? Just plain weak.
We got a bunch of fairweather fans. :ill:

[The_Philster]

Sweet, where is the tailgate at?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/The_Philster/misc/normal_billszone-tailgate-map7E0.jpg
under Helmet Crew

check the tailgate zone for details

[Night Train]

Teal is so 70's.

The AMC Pacer was once a big seller also. Tastes change.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Honestly this is very dissapointing, I dont get it.

The other weeks ill give you, but fish week? Just plain weak.
What is not to get, besides the game will be close to capacity.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Especially because the Patriots are more of a rival at this point.

[gr8slayer]

Pro Player Stadium capacity: 75,000
Miami Metropolitan area population: 2,253,362 (2000)
Ave Temp this time of year: 73 degrees


RW Stadium Capacity: 73,000
Buffalo Metropolitan Area: 1,170,111 (2000)
Ave Temp this time of year: 37 degrees

We're trying to sell out the same size stadium with half the population and half the temperature. Try doubling the size of your stadium then blowing freezing cold air on the stands and see how many games Miami sells out.
So why haven't we had a problem selling out in years past?

[OpIv37]

So why haven't we had a problem selling out in years past?

better team and less competition from the Sabres.

seriously, we were doing worse than this last year and people spent their time and money to go see the games in dec- we were rewarded by some piss-poor efforts. Fool me once...

[Historian]

So why haven't we had a problem selling out in years past?

Who wants to see cast-offs like Harrington, Culpepper and Morris?

It's like the Bills are playing a Division III college team.

[gr8slayer]

Who wants to see cast-offs like Harrington, Culpepper and Morris?

It's like the Bills are playing a Division III college team.
I was thinking more like a high school team but point well taken.

[Samphin1]

Who wants to see cast-offs like Harrington, Culpepper and Morris?

It's like the Bills are playing a Division III college team.


That Division III team has the same record as your team, so what does that make your team?

[Historian]

That Division III team has the same record as your team, so what does that make your team?

A half game ahead since we beat you to a pulp in your own park, flipper.

[Dr. Lecter]

Especially because the Patriots are more of a rival at this point.

Not if you are over the age if 30.

[Yasgur's Farm]

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[jmb1099]

Why not?
No one in Buffalo caes about the fins
:respect:

[Samphin1]

A half game ahead since we beat you to a pulp in your own park, flipper.

WE? I don't recall seeing you sack Culpepper (although, to be fair had you suite dup, you probably could have). I didn't see you returning kicks or even holding a clipboard.

I do think I saw you wearing a skirt and shaking your pom-poms though, so perhaps we isn't out of the question.

I do give your team props though. Beating a solid team like Miami is not easy. LOSING to a terrible team like Detroit isn't easy either, but you guys somehow managed to do that too!

[Historian]

a solid team like Miami

They're as solid as diarreah.

[Bling]

12th man my ass. You're bigger fairweather fans than I thought.

[chernobylwraiths]

There are a ton of reasons why this game isn't sold out and probably will not sell out.

1. Sure the games have sold out up until two home games ago, but many thought this team was supposed to be better and a contender the last couple of years, not so this year. Plus, Ralph bought out a lot of the games from the last couple years when it got down to a couple thou.

2. First time in forever that we had this many December home games (always hard to sellout, remember even in the superbowl years we couldn't sell out the Oilers comeback game in one week in January.) Even people from around here really don't want to sit out in freezing weather for a team that isn't going anywhere.

3. Don't discount the Sabres effect on the Bills at the staduim. Everyone knew the Sabres were gonna be good and the Bills weren't going to be contenders. So, many people used there descretionary funds on Sabres tickets if they could and haven't really been disappointed.

4. Christmas is a week away (just wait until the Titans game on Christmas Eve, that will be difficult to get to within 10,000 of capacity). This is a week economic town and people are using their extra money on presents for family and friends.

5. For the younger generation, Miami not the rival that they feel the Patriots are. With mostly younger people having the extra money and are usually the ones buying up tickets at the last minute, they don't feel the hatred of the older generation towards this team.

6. Hardly any Dolphins fans who aren't already in this area are going to come up to attend the game in mid December. That would be just crazy for a person used to mid 70's weather to attend a game where in all likelyhood it will be below freezing. But, nobody ever called Ltfinfan sane.

[Mr. Cynical]

A half game ahead since we beat you to a pulp in your own park, flipper.

:spit:

Game, set and match.

[Mr. Cynical]

Not if you are over the age if 30.

Disagree. I'm well over 30 and I absolutely despise the Patsies. Yes, I used to have that kind of hatred for the Fish but since they have been sucking for years, haven't hurt us in any meaningful way since 1998, and since the Patsies have OWNED us for 6 straight years, times and hatreds shift.

When the Patsies inevitably suck and the Fish start to get better again, I will funnel that level of hatred their way once again. :)

That said, f**k the fish.

[kinigirly]

i'd consider buying a ticket and going with dozer and jesusbot but i'm not sitting alone so forget it

[Bufftp]

Why not?
It's the dolfelons.
Big deal.

[Dr. Lecter]

i'd consider buying a ticket and going with dozer and jesusbot but i'm not sitting alone so forget it

What if one of us has an extra ticket?

[kinigirly]

What if one of us has an extra ticket?

if it was summer, i'd probably do it. but seeing as i'm coming home next week anyways, seems like too much effort

[Dr. Lecter]

We at least need to do another Zone X-mas lunch.........

[THATHURMANATOR]

i'd consider buying a ticket and going with dozer and jesusbot but i'm not sitting alone so forget it
buy Phils extra and you can sit next to me! :hi5:

[Dr. Lecter]

Are you trying to scare her away?????

[kinigirly]

i wouldn't advise sitting me next to someone who falls asleep during games

[The_Philster]

buy Phils extra and you can sit next to me! :hi5:
HBF is already getting that ticket

oh, and Mikey is taking the Titans game ticket, I think. He and danny are selling their pair

[Historian]

We at least need to do another Zone X-mas lunch.........

Let's go to the same place.

Those were the best chillie rellejnos Ive ever had.

:up:

[clumping platelets]

I want Italian :mad:

[Historian]

Okay Clump, I give.

I'm yours...

[SABURZFAN]

Teal is so 70's.

The AMC Pacer was once a big seller also. Tastes change.


how many miles do you have on your AMC Pacer?

[DarbyTheDinosaur]

Pro Player Stadium capacity: 75,000
Miami Metropolitan area population: 2,253,362 (2000)
Ave Temp this time of year: 73 degrees


RW Stadium Capacity: 73,000
Buffalo Metropolitan Area: 1,170,111 (2000)
Ave Temp this time of year: 37 degrees

We're trying to sell out the same size stadium with half the population and half the temperature. Try doubling the size of your stadium then blowing freezing cold air on the stands and see how many games Miami sells out.

And let's not forget that fan loyalty study that has been floating around...
http://www.bizjournals.com/specials/pages/34.html

it indicates a per capita income of 34,101 in Miami vs. 29,416 in Buffalo...more disposible income might make for more seats selling out...

It also lists Miami as have a market population of over 6 million VS. 1 million + in the Buffalo area...

There are a lot of factors involved but you have to admit, if you took away the fact that you had to root for a bunch of pantywastes in teal and orange, find ways to justify the signing of Duante Crappepper, make excuses for every thug to put on a Phins uni from Bryan Cox to Ricky Williams, and justify Dan Marino's Isotoner glove commercials, the advantage in providing an enjoyable, supportable product for the fans tips to the Dolphags...

[justasportsfan]

Let's not forget that the holidays are around the corner and people need to save up for it. People would make that trip if we're in the playoff hunt.

BTW, I'm finally free to make the game SO FAR, unless something comes up.

[DolfanTom]

In all seriousness, it's supposed to be a nice day!

You guys want RW to shut up about moving the team, buy some seats!!! I can't believe you haven't sold this out!! Very un-Bills like from what I remember from my days in WNY.

11902

[THATHURMANATOR]

i wouldn't advise sitting me next to someone who falls asleep during games
1 time!!!! That was honestly an indication on how boring that game was! Especially when sitting next to Phil

[THATHURMANATOR]

HBF is already getting that ticket

oh, and Mikey is taking the Titans game ticket, I think. He and danny are selling their pair
OH GREAT PHIL!!! Another drunk Canadian to deal with! HBF will get along great with our canadians in front of us.

[gr8slayer]

1 time!!!! That was honestly an indication on how boring that game was! Especially when sitting next to Phil
You fell asleep during a freaking Bills game? Bad THRUM. slap slap slap

[DolfanTom]

Pro Player Stadium capacity: 75,000
Miami Metropolitan area population: 2,253,362 (2000)
Ave Temp this time of year: 73 degrees


RW Stadium Capacity: 73,000
Buffalo Metropolitan Area: 1,170,111 (2000)
Ave Temp this time of year: 37 degrees

We're trying to sell out the same size stadium with half the population and half the temperature. Try doubling the size of your stadium then blowing freezing cold air on the stands and see how many games Miami sells out.You make a fine argument about why it's tough on the Bills, but in Miami's defense, more than half that population is made up of one of the following:

-Northerners w/ loyalties to different teams
-People enjoying the many other things there are to do in SoFla other than attend a football game
-Came over on a raft, first priorities upon arrival do not include forking over $55 for a ticket, plus parking, food, etc.

I'm just shocked you guys can't sell this out! I bough my tix the first day they went on sale because I thought they'd sell out in 24 hours. That's the way it used to be w/ Buff-Miami games! I know we're both kinda down, but c'mon - a rivalry is a rivalry!!

[THATHURMANATOR]

You fell asleep during a freaking Bills game? Bad THRUM. slap slap slap
I was trashed and was going on like 2 hours of sleep. I am sorry. I blew it.

[gr8slayer]

I was trashed and was going on like 2 hours of sleep. I am sorry. I blew it.
Oh well if it was alcohol induced then you have a valid argument. I take back the slap slap slap and all the other bad names I called you between this post and the last one. :D

[justasportsfan]

In all seriousness, it's supposed to be a nice day!

You guys want RW to shut up about moving the team, buy some seats!!! I can't believe you haven't sold this out!! Very un-Bills like from what I remember from my days in WNY.

11902The WNY economy isn't what it used to be. IF the bills were winning I'm almost sure people would make this extra sacrifice.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Buffalo is on the way back though Justa!!!

[justasportsfan]

I want Italian :mad:
Are you tired of half lebanese half something?





I hope Eb is taking it well.

[gr8slayer]

Buffalo is on the way back though Justa!!!
How so?

[THATHURMANATOR]

Check out this website:
buffalorising.com

[justasportsfan]

How so?
they opened another 711 in downtown :up:

[mybills]

How many tickets remain to be sold, now? Any updates?

[THATHURMANATOR]

they opened another 711 in downtown :up:
You dirty Rochester son of a *****!

[THATHURMANATOR]

How many tickets remain to be sold, now? Any updates?
6k or so.

[justasportsfan]

You dirty Rochester son of a *****!what's your point

[THATHURMANATOR]

EXACTLY!

[gr8slayer]

they opened another 711 in downtown :up:
Hey. That's progress.

Are there alot of houses for sale/rent?

[justasportsfan]

Hey. That's progress.

Are there alot of houses for sale/rent? Tons.

[OpIv37]

You make a fine argument about why it's tough on the Bills, but in Miami's defense, more than half that population is made up of one of the following:

-Northerners w/ loyalties to different teams
-People enjoying the many other things there are to do in SoFla other than attend a football game
-Came over on a raft, first priorities upon arrival do not include forking over $55 for a ticket, plus parking, food, etc.

I'm just shocked you guys can't sell this out! I bough my tix the first day they went on sale because I thought they'd sell out in 24 hours. That's the way it used to be w/ Buff-Miami games! I know we're both kinda down, but c'mon - a rivalry is a rivalry!!

yeah the Miami game is usually the first one to sell out. What surprises me the most is that we sold out the December games last year when the team was in shambles. We're still struggling in some areas, but we've been playing well and there are a lot of young guys on this team- ie, there's reason for hope at this point whereas last year was a complete cluster****.

Unfortunately, I live 400 miles from Buffalo so it's tough to make more than 1-2 games a year- hopefully the locals will get off their asses and buy tix by tomorrow.

[HAMMER]

I don't want to hear anyone on this site that lives in Buff complain about talk of the Bills leaving if they aren't attending at least half the home games. To me this is a travesty, how can you not go to the stadium? Money is no excuse, grovel for cans after the game if you need to but show up.

[THATHURMANATOR]

I think almost all of us have seasons man.

[chernobylwraiths]

I laid out several reasons why this game hasn't/isn't going to sell out. Don't discount the Sabres, many people have used their disposable income on Sabres tickets this year. Something they rarely did in the past.

[raphael120]

You want to know the reason why? Two letters. J - P. All his fault...that bastard. ;)

[Michael82]

I don't want to hear anyone on this site that lives in Buff complain about talk of the Bills leaving if they aren't attending at least half the home games. To me this is a travesty, how can you not go to the stadium? Money is no excuse, grovel for cans after the game if you need to but show up.
:bf1:

[Michael82]

I laid out several reasons why this game hasn't/isn't going to sell out. Don't discount the Sabres, many people have used their disposable income on Sabres tickets this year. Something they rarely did in the past.
I put a majority of the blame on the Sabres being the best team in the NHL and having a new logo and new merchandise.

[Historian]

I put a majority of the blame on the Sabres being the best team in the NHL and having a new logo and new merchandise.

That may be true, but let's be honest....the fish haven't exactly been a marquee attraction since David Woodley was their quarterback.

[Michael82]

That may be true, but let's be honest....the fish haven't exactly been a marquee attraction since David Woodley was their quarterback.
Good point. Who would want to watch that loser, Joey Harrington? :ill:

[DolfanTom]

That may be true, but let's be honest....the fish haven't exactly been a marquee attraction since David Woodley was their quarterback.:penalty:

[DolfanTom]

Good point. Who would want to watch that loser, Joey Harrington? :ill:Perhaps it's not the opponent, but the lack of quality home team?

[Mitchy moo]

:penalty:

I like your user title DFtom. That will stay with you on all your post and any new one's you put up, I really think it fits.

[DolfanTom]

I like your user title DFtom. That will stay with you on all your post and any new one's you put up, I really think it fits.:penalty:

[The_Philster]

1 time!!!! That was honestly an indication on how boring that game was! Especially when sitting next to Phil
:scratch: I'm trying to figure out whether or not to feel insulted by that comment

OH GREAT PHIL!!! Another drunk Canadian to deal with! HBF will get along great with our canadians in front of us.Quit acting like this is breaking news :cynic: I told you HBF was taking the ticket to that game months ago...back when you brought Amanda over to get the ticket the one game she did actually go to

[hammerbillsfan]

yeah THURM quit yer *****ing, eh

[THATHURMANATOR]

Just joking boys! Should be a good time!

[hammerbillsfan]

:beers: :cheers:

[chernobylwraiths]

That may be true, but let's be honest....the fish haven't exactly been a marquee attraction since David Woodley was their quarterback.

:confused:

[im4bflo]

I put a majority of the blame on the Sabres being the best team in the NHL and having a new logo and new merchandise.
It's that damn SLUG logo, I tell ya!
GO BILLS FIRST! then...
GO SABRES after football season.

[Mitchy moo]

huh?