Anyone watching NFL LIVE???

[SquishDaFish]

My dad called me and said they were talking about NFL making Miami forfeit their victory to PAts because they paid someone on Pats team for a tape of Bradys audibles. And thats the reason they killed the pats O so much. Smart Mo Fos if its true lol.

[LtFinFan66]

Dolphins Engage in Counter-Espionage (http://www.finheaven.com/News/Miami_Dolphins/Dolphins_Engage_in_Counter-Espionage_200612113607/)



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December 11, 2006
http://www.finheaven.com/images/stories/Saban3.jpg[PB Post (http://www.palmbeachpost.com/dolphins/content/sports/epaper/2006/12/11/finsgamer_1211.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=46)] Greg Bedard's writes:

The plan the Dolphins used to once again thwart Tom Brady - all four of his games with fewer than 100 yards passing have come against Miami - actually began last season after New England's 23-16 victory over the Dolphins on Nov. 13.

To this day, the Dolphins are convinced the Patriots stole their defensive signals in advance of that game. That insider knowledge, the Dolphins believe, allowed New England to know Miami was blitzing - and to adjust accordingly - on the game-winning 17-yard touchdown pass from Brady to Benjamin Watson with 2:16 to play.

This week, the Dolphins got even. Instead of just watching the soundless coaches' films to scout the Patriots, Miami purchased films that had audio of the signals Brady gives at the line - specifically the Patriots' signals to the offensive line that control Brady's protection. Armed with that information, the Dolphins listened to Brady's calls Sunday and adjusted where they brought pressure.

"I think that helped a lot," said Zach Thomas.

The Dolphins also spent extra time in practice and meetings installing new blitz packages designed by defensive coordinator Dom Capers and working to disguise what they were going to do against Brady.

"If you show your hand early, he'll burn you," said safety Yeremiah Bell, who had a sack, forced fumble and recovered fumble. "What we wanted to do was kind of play with him a little bit. We know he waits until the play clock gets late before he does anything. So what we did was when he was playing around with us, we were just playing around with him.

"When it was time to hike that ball, he didn't know what we were going to do."

[PECKERWOOD]

HAHAAHAHAHAHA, this is the first and last time I will ever say this. GOOOO MIAMI, GOOD JOB! :up:

[SquishDaFish]

Good lol Screw the Pats and Brokeback Brady!

[shelby]

Is there a rule against that?

[SquishDaFish]

NFL is investigating. Thats what NFL LIVE was saying. And if they do find them guilty of breaking rules that they would forfeit the game.

[PECKERWOOD]

Is there a rule against that?

lol, I don't know but it sure is ****ed up.

[shelby]

:doh:

[PECKERWOOD]

NFL is investigating. Thats what NFL LIVE was saying. And if they do find them guilty of breaking rules that they would forfeit the game.

Good, that's win - win for me. Tom Brady gets JACKED UP! And Miami gets the L, Saaaaaaweeet.

[Michael82]

NFL is investigating. Thats what NFL LIVE was saying. And if they do find them guilty of breaking rules that they would forfeit the game.
:lmao: That would be hilarious!

[LtFinFan66]

That will be bull**** if that happens. Did ****ing Brady call the league crying? That would just show that the NFL STILL wants the Pats in the Super Bowl and if you guys really want that then you are pretty :limp:

[Historian]

Typical fish.

Lying, cheating felony committing muther****ers.

[PECKERWOOD]

That will be bull**** if that happens. Did ****ing Brady call the league crying? That would just show that the NFL STILL wants the Pats in the Super Bowl and if you guys really want that then you are pretty :limp:

hahaha... Badabababba I'm lovin it!

[LtFinFan66]

folks are losing credibility fast in this thread. Clearly you want the Pats to keep winning it all

[Michael82]

folks are losing credibility fast in this thread. Clearly you want the Pats to keep winning it all
:puke:

[PECKERWOOD]

folks are losing credibility fast in this thread. Clearly you want the Pats to keep winning it all

No, it's just nice to see both teams get dicked over!

[Goobylal]

Gee. I want the Pats-Raiders playoff game in 2001 to be forfeited because of a horrible call. And how about that "just give it to 'em" game back in 1998 between the Bills and Pats where Troy Brown caught the ball short and out of bounds, which screwed the Bills out of hosting Miami in the playoffs that year?

[Mitchy moo]

This is really a odd situation, they did it but what do you do about it?

[LtFinFan66]

hahaha... Badabababba I'm lovin it!:negrep: First honestly deserving neg I have given in a long, long time. Siding with :limp: Brady is just nuts. WOW!!

[Dr. Lecter]

They should take the win away from Miami, but not give the Pats the win.

Both teams lose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That would be almost orgasmic!

[LtFinFan66]

No, it's just nice to see both teams get dicked over!Pats would get a W. How exactly do they get dicked other than in the shower after the game:idunno:

[Historian]

This is really a odd situation, they did it but what do you do about it?

Disband the Miami franchise.

Tear down No Pro Bowl Player Stadium.

Nuke the city and give it back to the alligators.

:up:

[PECKERWOOD]

Pats would get a W. How exactly do they get dicked other than in the shower after the game:idunno:

Well because the Patriots are already going to the playoffs, might as well! If the fish get the L, they are last in the AFC East!

But I agree with Lecter, take the W away from Miami and don't give it to the Patriots!

[CuseJetsFan83]

ive never heard of a statute....... to me the calling of the audibles could just be considered game tape.... with really enhanced audio..... if the nfl makes them forfeit, as much as i hate the fish, they slaughtered the pats...... and ill be damned if they can receive the afc east that way

[LtFinFan66]

NFL is investigating. Thats what NFL LIVE was saying. And if they do find them guilty of breaking rules that they would forfeit the game.seems like if there was a rule, they would not have to investigate? Don't they know their own rules? Perhaps they are waiting for Brady and BB to draft a new rule to slide into the rule book. But they have to wait till Brady quits sobbing, sucking his thumb and come out of the corner

[PECKERWOOD]

They should also take a win away from the Jets, just for the hell of it!

[LtFinFan66]

Disband the Miami franchise.

Tear down No Pro Bowl Player Stadium.

Nuke the city and give it back to the alligators.

:up::blah:

[Historian]

ive never heard of a statute....... to me the calling of the audibles could just be considered game tape.... with really enhanced audio..... if the nfl makes them forfeit, as much as i hate the fish, they slaughtered the pats...... and ill be damned if they can receive the afc east that way

No biggie.

Take the win away from the fish...and give it to the Jets!

Problem solved.

[THATHURMANATOR]

That will be bull**** if that happens. Did ****ing Brady call the league crying? That would just show that the NFL STILL wants the Pats in the Super Bowl and if you guys really want that then you are pretty :limp:
It isn't BS if there is a specific rule in place and the Phins broke that rule. Now if there isn't one and one is made up on the spot then it is in fact BS, and more Tom Brady Ball licking!

[The_Philster]

They should take the win away from Miami, but not give the Pats the win.

Both teams lose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That would be almost orgasmic!
only almost? I just popped a woody thinking about that

[PECKERWOOD]

I can hear the song " Don't Fear the Reaper " kick in when Miami is forced to forfeit the win.

[CuseJetsFan83]

No biggie.

Take the win away from the fish...and give it to the Jets!

Problem solved.

by golly, that cockamanie scheme might just work!

[CuseJetsFan83]

only almost? I just popped a woody thinking about that
ewwwwwww TMI

[DynaPaul]

Screw the Patriots. I'm sure they've been doing the same crap for the past 5 years. Good for the Dolphins.

[Devin]

Honestly I could give a damn either way as I hate both teams. I hate Miami more.

The only upside to me is it helps the Bills. We were not going to catch the Pats anyway. So a Fin loss helps.

Eitherway I dont think thats gonna happen.

[Mitchy moo]

Honestly I could give a damn either way as I hate both teams. I hate Miami more.

The only upside to me is it helps the Bills. We were not going to catch the Pats anyway. So a Fin loss helps.

Eitherway I dont think thats gonna happen.

We will take care of the fins ourselves this weekend but we do not want a reason for baltimore to sweat their last game, like being tied with the pats.

[gr8slayer]

Screw the Pats!

[HHURRICANE]

I love it!! It's really a win-win. First off, there is no way in hell that Miami is going to have to forfeit the win. I love the fact that Brady and company got smacked. However, i love the fact that Miami is being accused of essentially cheating.

It's truly a win-win. The cheaters beating the whinny homos. I love it.

[Historian]

:blah:

"This is hell Frank...and I'm going to give you the guided tour!"
-Donald Sutherland, Lock Up.

[PECKERWOOD]

lol, Skooby missed out on this one. He could have made this the: " Patriots and Fins Get Screwed & Rep Thread! "

[gr8slayer]

lol, Skooby missed out on this one. He could have made this the: " Patriots and Fins Get Screwed & Rep Thread! "
lol, don't give him any ideas.

[ShadowHawk7]

I think that would be really good for us, because it would break Miami's spirit and drive to make the playoffs.

[Mitchy moo]

lol, don't give him any ideas.

hmmmmmmmmmm.....

[BAM]

Has a win ever been reversed in the NFL? Post-game?

[Samphin1]

First off, no one is forfeiting anything. Miami didn't do anything illegal and quite frankly, I am upset they blabbed about it. They should do this every week. I am surprised that no one else is doing this. I always assumed that this was done anyway.

Furthermore, if there is an investigation (which I doubt), Miami has already stated that New England did this to them first, you would have to go back and punish New England as well.

New England got outplayed, outcoached and outclassed, and they can't handle it.

[BAM]

Probably just another example of Billycheck crying about a loss.

[ublinkwescore]

NFL is investigating. Thats what NFL LIVE was saying. And if they do find them guilty of breaking rules that they would forfeit the game.

God forbid that the NFL's golden boys ever lose a game.

[Historian]

If the fish had any honor at all...they would forfeit the game.

[justasportsfan]

As much as I hate the fins, it's another situation of the NFL protecting their beloved Pats. It's getting soooooo obvious, it's pathetic.

[ublinkwescore]

They should take the win away from Miami, but not give the Pats the win.

Both teams lose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That would be almost orgasmic!

if that happened, I'd be convinced that I'm dead and in heaven.

[Mitchy moo]

if that happened, I'd be convinced that I'm dead and in heaven.

you'd probably be laying next to the gal in your avatar as well, then you know you we're in heaven, lol.

[ublinkwescore]

you'd probably be laying next to the gal in your avatar as well, then you know you we're in heaven, lol.

I wouldn't be laying next to her, I'd be laying on her.

[LtFinFan66]

If the fish had any honor at all...they would forfeit the game.:blah:

[Samphin1]

I wouldn't be laying next to her, I'd be laying on her.

See, I would be LAYING her...even better! :lol:

[ublinkwescore]

I think we both had the same idea.

get your own version of heaven.

quit ruining mine phart fan.

[clumping platelets]

:movie:

[HHURRICANE]

you'd probably be laying next to the gal in your avatar as well, then you know you we're in heaven, lol.

I'm still laughing. Very good SKOOB!!!!

[Mitchy moo]

I wouldn't be laying next to her, I'd be laying on her.

LOL! OK that's cool.

[X-Era]

My dad called me and said they were talking about NFL making Miami forfeit their victory to PAts because they paid someone on Pats team for a tape of Bradys audibles. And thats the reason they killed the pats O so much. Smart Mo Fos if its true lol.

You watch, the Bills will end up with a tied every thing and the NFL still wont make a decision on this. What then? They postpone the playoffs to resolve this mess? Yet another Florida debacle, anyone got James Bakers number?

Can you say hanging chads?

[YardRat]

I hate Miami as much as, if not more than, any Bills fan on this board, but if the NFL actually attempts to change the outcome of the game that's just plain bull**** and the defining proof to me that the league is rigged.

It ain't gonna happen, folks. There may be fines, or suspensions of some manner, but no way in hell the league starts deciding the games on paper and not on the field.

Good for Miami, **** the Patriots...after all the **** they've pulled over the last decade they deserve to get shot in the ass.

[LtFinFan66]

I hate Miami as much as, if not more than, any Bills fan on this board, but if the NFL actually attempts to change the outcome of the game that's just plain bull**** and the defining proof to me that the league is rigged.

It ain't gonna happen, folks. There may be fines, or suspensions of some manner, but no way in hell the league starts deciding the games on paper and not on the field.

Good for Miami, **** the Patriots...after all the **** they've pulled over the last decade they deserve to get shot in the ass.Agreed! Whose to say they would have won anyway

[SquishDaFish]

Screw the Pats they deserve it.

[RedEyE]

I just read this and I'm floored!

Wow! I'm curious about the details. Someone was paid to leak Brady's audibles? Or someone was paid to record them?

There is a big difference here and a fine line in morals as well.

While if someone on the Patriots devulged this information for money, then that individual should be banned from the NFL for life (hello Pete Rose), along with a sadistic (and probably much enjoyed) slap on the pee pee of the Dolphins organization. I can't say a forfiet would be out of the questio in this case.

Now, if this was just simply some poor schmuck hired by the Dolphins to record Brady practicing and fix a camera on him game day, then all is well in the world and this seems perfectly legal to me.

[mysticsoto]

I just heard on the NFL Network about this and I'm appalled by it and by how many here are essentially clapping their hands and applauding it. This spits at the integrity of the NFL and even if it's against a team that I want to lose, I still find it disgusting that it was done. How might some of you feel if something like this would have been done to the Bills - all of you would be up in arms about it!!!

Any way you look at it, this was a disgusting act and I hope the NFL comes down hard on whoever leaked the information in the Pats camp as well as some type of appropriate punishment against Miami.

Disgusting!!! :cynic:

[Mitchy moo]

Any way you look at it, this was a disgusting act and I hope the NFL comes down hard on whoever leaked the information in the Pats camp as well as some type of appropriate punishment against Miami.

Disgusting!!! :cynic:

Let's put snow machines on the sidelines and blow snow on the field, that will teach them.

[MikeInRoch]

Sportscenter just said that the NFL will not be investigating it, in part because the Patriots have not complained.

[MikeInRoch]

I just heard on the NFL Network about this and I'm appalled by it and by how many here are essentially clapping their hands and applauding it. This spits at the integrity of the NFL and even if it's against a team that I want to lose, I still find it disgusting that it was done. How might some of you feel if something like this would have been done to the Bills - all of you would be up in arms about it!!!

Any way you look at it, this was a disgusting act and I hope the NFL comes down hard on whoever leaked the information in the Pats camp as well as some type of appropriate punishment against Miami.

Disgusting!!! :cynic:

I don't agree AT ALL. How does this spit on integrity? They didn't break ANY rules. What is the difference between this and trying to interpret their signals during the game? Or trying to figure out what play they are going to run based on the formation, package, or down/distance situation?

Would looking at game file to study tendencies be against the integrity of the game?

This is not worse than the Patriot signing a player from Buffalo after they were cut and drilling them for information about game plans, etc. Which as you might recall happened before the first game of the season this year.

[Goobylal]

Sportscenter just said that the NFL will not be investigating it, in part because the Patriots have not complained.
Of course they haven't. Because if they did, they'd be investigated for doing this stuff and probably worse things. Remember that Miami bought the "additional footage" because they felt the Pats stole their calls last year. And Belichick has a well-known history of cheating any chance he can get.

[Luisito23]

Dirty, and classless fish as always.....:puke:...





GO BILLS!!!!!

[raphael120]

yeah i dont know if i like the idea of the fins doin this to the bills, if thats what they are doing.

if its wrong, then its wrong, but if its legal, then you have to be prepared and adapt to teams playing like that and knowing more than you think they know. im sure if you knew what words meant what, the opposing team youre trying to punk can punk you back by making you pay for it and change up meanings of words/blitzes/calls.

[DolfanTom]

Dirty, and classless fish as always.....:puke:...





GO BILLS!!!!!You are really THAT clueless??

Have you not been paying attention? It's all legal, widely done throughout the league (most notably by .... the PATRIOTS).

Hate us all you want, but you can't knock this. You should be admiring it!

[DolfanTom]

This is not worse than the Patriot signing a player from Buffalo after they were cut and drilling them for information about game plans, etc. Which as you might recall happened before the first game of the season this year.BB is notorious for this. He did this w/ Heath Evans last year against us - and there's no doubt in my mind that's why he signed Seau right before camp this year.

Whatever, it works. I'm just glad to see someone else using some of his tactics (Saban! :dance:). Why should BB be the only one benefitting?

[ublinkwescore]

I just read this and I'm floored!

Wow! I'm curious about the details. Someone was paid to leak Brady's audibles? Or someone was paid to record them?

There is a big difference here and a fine line in morals as well.

While if someone on the Patriots devulged this information for money, then that individual should be banned from the NFL for life (hello Pete Rose), along with a sadistic (and probably much enjoyed) slap on the pee pee of the Dolphins organization. I can't say a forfiet would be out of the questio in this case.

Now, if this was just simply some poor schmuck hired by the Dolphins to record Brady practicing and fix a camera on him game day, then all is well in the world and this seems perfectly legal to me.

According to the NFL Network, the Patriots are notorious for doing this crap, obviously they can dish it out, but they can't take it. I don't know how any true fan of football could like the patriots after hearing that crap. THE PATRIOTS ARE A DISGRACE TO PRO FOOTBALL IN THE U.S.

[MikeInRoch]

According to the NFL Network, the Patriots are notorious for doing this crap, obviously they can dish it out, but they can't take it.

On what basis do you say "they can't take it"? I've heard zero complaints from them about it...

[Historian]

THE FISH ARE A DISGRACE TO PRO FOOTBALL IN THE U.S.

Fixed it for ya', ublink.

[Goobylal]

On what basis do you say "they can't take it"? I've heard zero complaints from them about it...
True, they haven't complained. But that's ONLY because they've been doing it for years. As has been mentioned by DolfanTom, the Pats are notorious for signing players from the AFC East teams, with the obvious intention of stealing signals.

[Gunzlingr]

I bet Mike Tomczak got the tapes for them.

[mysticsoto]

I don't agree AT ALL. How does this spit on integrity? They didn't break ANY rules. What is the difference between this and trying to interpret their signals during the game? Or trying to figure out what play they are going to run based on the formation, package, or down/distance situation?

Would looking at game file to study tendencies be against the integrity of the game?

This is not worse than the Patriot signing a player from Buffalo after they were cut and drilling them for information about game plans, etc. Which as you might recall happened before the first game of the season this year.


I misunderstood. I caught the tail end of this on NFL network and thought that the Fins had paid someone out to give them video of talks inside the locker room and more "inside info".

I still think it's kind of low to have to resort to this. It definitely means you don't trust that your team can beat them straight up so you resort to cheap tactics.

Personally, I don't care that BB has done this before and I don't care for this sort of thing. Can you imagine any of the old great coaches doing any of this? They didn't have to. They were good at what they do!!!

I guess Saban needs all the help he can get to counter the poor job Mularkey is doing though...

[!Papacrunk!]

Mularkey has thrown some bone headed plays our way, especially in the beginning of the season, but it seems like our higher ranking in offense must be in spite of MM, not because of him.

[Mitchy moo]

Mularkey has thrown some bone headed plays our way, especially in the beginning of the season, but it seems like our higher ranking in offense must be in spite of MM, not because of him.

You ever see any Miami players come to Buffalo? We never take home the trash just put it out.

[!Papacrunk!]

You ever see any Miami players come to Buffalo? We never take home the trash just put it out.

Skooby, why do you repeat your same posts? No offense, but they're not even that clever to begin with brudda.

[Mitchy moo]

Skooby, why do you repeat your same posts? No offense, but they're not even that clever to begin with brudda.

Is your definition of clever to be a fan of a bisexual mammal?

I don't think fin fans have the mental capacity to judge what's "clever".