Does it "really" matter if it didn't happen in your lifetime?

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  • Mr. Cynical
    Maybe?
    • Oct 2003
    • 9766

    Does it "really" matter if it didn't happen in your lifetime?

    Listening to fish fans talk about a SB victory from 32 years ago has me thinking. If the Bills had won it before I was born (or to be honest, before I was able to understand what football was), would it really matter to me that they won?

    Sure, I'd rather have a win than not no matter how long ago it was. However, I have to say in all honesty (whether or not the others believe me is irrelevant) that no, it doesn't mean that much *to me*. Why? Because I wasn't a part of it. Plain and simple. The only thing it really gives me is the ability to lay smack (albeit a lame a 32 year old smack). But for me it would only really mean something if I was able to take part in its glory. Otherwise its just part of history (albeit an important part, it is still history and really has nothing to do with the current team...unless of course you watched it happen, and then it becomes a part of you)

    JM2c....
  • LtFinFan66
    Registered User
    • Mar 2005
    • 47199

    #2
    Re: Does it "really" matter if it didn't happen in your lifetime?

    I was alive and kicking so I am good. and yes it matters because we have won a couple. when doesn't matter IMO. Once you guys win one, then you will likely never hear about ours again till we win another. pretty simple IMO

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    • Mr. Cynical
      Maybe?
      • Oct 2003
      • 9766

      #3
      Re: Does it "really" matter if it didn't happen in your lifetime?

      Originally posted by LtFinFan66
      I was alive and kicking so I am good. and yes it matters because we have won a couple. when doesn't matter IMO. Once you guys win one, then you will likely never hear about ours again till we win another. pretty simple IMO
      Expected response from a fin fan.....but just to humor....how old are you? I assume you were born in '66 from your handle?

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      • Samphin1
        Registered User
        • Mar 2004
        • 1109

        #4
        Re: Does it "really" matter if it didn't happen in your lifetime?

        Sure it matters. Red Sox fans who are 20 years old complained about the dread curse that haunted them for 80+ years. Same for Cubs fans who weren't around when it started...and White Sox Nation as well.

        Us Laker fans spout off about Wilt Chmberlain and Jerry West, meanwhile most of us grew up with Jabbar, Magic, Shaq and Kobe. The tradition and history of the franchise, in part makes up why you are a fan. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, yet every single one of my teams that I root for is from Southern California or Florida. Why? Because I was drawn to them, in some part do to their history of success and sense of history and tradition that surrounds them.

        Much like us Miami fans hang our hats on the undefeated season over 30 years ago, the history of the team is a sense of pride (and a great bargaining chip on rival message boards )

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        • Mr. Cynical
          Maybe?
          • Oct 2003
          • 9766

          #5
          Re: Does it "really" matter if it didn't happen in your lifetime?

          Interesting again how only fish fans are responding.

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          • THATHURMANATOR
            Registered User
            • Jul 2002
            • 69112

            #6
            Re: Does it "really" matter if it didn't happen in your lifetime?

            Originally posted by Mr. Cynical
            Listening to fish fans talk about a SB victory from 32 years ago has me thinking. If the Bills had won it before I was born (or to be honest, before I was able to understand what football was), would it really matter to me that they won?

            Sure, I'd rather have a win than not no matter how long ago it was. However, I have to say in all honesty (whether or not the others believe me is irrelevant) that no, it doesn't mean that much *to me*. Why? Because I wasn't a part of it. Plain and simple. The only thing it really gives me is the ability to lay smack (albeit a lame a 32 year old smack). But for me it would only really mean something if I was able to take part in its glory. Otherwise its just part of history (albeit an important part, it is still history and really has nothing to do with the current team...unless of course you watched it happen, and then it becomes a part of you)

            JM2c....
            Dude that is my main problem with fin fans. They act like they have a golden champion team. They haven't even been to the bowl in over 20 years.

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            • RedEyE
              Registered User
              • Jul 2002
              • 24661

              #7
              Re: Does it "really" matter if it didn't happen in your lifetime?

              It definitly matters. Going to the Super Bowl is one thing, winning it is something else. The only reason anyone even remembers Buffalo having gone to the Super Bowl is because they did something no one else has. They went 4 years in a row.

              The problem is they came away empty handed each time.

              Now take Tampa Bay for instance. The Bucs have been a crappy franchise since having made their first blooper reel a couple of decades ago. BUT, the Bucs have one the big one. That automatically pulls them out of any contention for being a bad franchise.

              Buffalo gets repeatedly chastised for losing and alomst 0 credit for appearing. Had they won just one of the 4 big games...just one, they would still be considered one of the best franchise in NFL history. Instead, people prefer to laugh then recognize.
              Last edited by RedEyE; 12-12-2006, 09:18 PM.

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              • RedEyE
                Registered User
                • Jul 2002
                • 24661

                #8
                Re: Does it "really" matter if it didn't happen in your lifetime?

                Look at the Jets. The Jets haven't been to the Super Bowl since 1969. That's Super Bowl III for the mathmatically impaired. To this day Joe Namath still gets an amazing amount of respect and admiration. Do you think that anyone would have remembered Joe Namath had they lost to Baltimore that year never having appeared any year after? I think not.

                Unitas was on the losing end of that game but got his comeuppins just 2 years later.

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                • THE END OF ALL DAYS
                  The Allen Era has begun.... no looking back now, come hell or high water!
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 4525

                  #9
                  Re: Does it "really" matter if it didn't happen in your lifetime?

                  Win ONE. You have it for ever. Lose one and nobody ever remembers you were there.
                  Loose 4 and you are labled a looser forever.

                  Win One, and the 4 go away.
                  In my day we did not have self-esteem... we had self-respect, and no more of it then we earned.

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                  • RedEyE
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 24661

                    #10
                    Re: Does it "really" matter if it didn't happen in your lifetime?

                    What about a QB named Stan Humphries and a running back by the name of Natrone Means? Anyone remember these guys?

                    That's because in Super Bowl XXIX Natorne and Stan lost to the mighty 49ers by a laaaarge margin. Never to return or do anything significant again. They simply melded with history along with the respect of the Chargers post season win reputation.

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                    • Samphin1
                      Registered User
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 1109

                      #11
                      Re: Does it "really" matter if it didn't happen in your lifetime?

                      Originally posted by Mr. Cynical
                      Interesting again how only fish fans are responding.

                      Well, not to be a jerk, but the Bills have no championships or any basis on which to comment on this subject. Miami does. As a Miami fan who was born after their last championship, I figured this question was a good one for me to answer.

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                      • Mr. Cynical
                        Maybe?
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 9766

                        #12
                        Re: Does it "really" matter if it didn't happen in your lifetime?

                        Originally posted by Samphin1
                        Well, not to be a jerk, but the Bills have no championships or any basis on which to comment on this subject. Miami does. As a Miami fan who was born after their last championship, I figured this question was a good one for me to answer.
                        No worries. You're not a jerk...you're a fish fan. Nothing more need be said.

                        As for your comments, they are totally biased. Of course we have a basis on which to comment. We haven't won a SB but we HAVE won 2 league championships. AT THE TIME, those were "super bowls"....yet, it was so long ago that to me they are largely irrelevant.

                        However, to fans of teams who have not had any major success in the last 2 decades or longer (not just you but others as well), time becomes a non factor. Why? Because you (again not you, but all fans) want to cling to something they can be proud of. I catch myself citing the Glory Days of the Bills and that was only 12 years ago, not 32. But at least I was a part of that success (whether you want to recognize their dominance is up to you), which is why I asked this question.

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                        • jmb1099
                          Registered User
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 3354

                          #13
                          Re: Does it "really" matter if it didn't happen in your lifetime?

                          the only reason to continually shine a light on your past in the sports world is because your present situation isn't worth a spit...imho

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                          • The_Philster
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 52180

                            #14
                            Re: Does it "really" matter if it didn't happen in your lifetime?

                            Originally posted by Samphin1
                            Well, not to be a jerk, but the Bills have no championships or any basis on which to comment on this subject.
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                            • Historian
                              2020-2023 AFC East Champions!
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 61721

                              #15
                              Re: Does it "really" matter if it didn't happen in your lifetime?

                              We were winning Championships when you guys were pollywogs.

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