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  • Patrick76777
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 17297

    Updated Playoff picture.

    Everything went perfect yesterday. We even got a bonus Jacksonville loss. I’ll show you how that helps us later.

    Scenario 1. My original plan!

    Again, we need to win out (Tenn and at Baltimore). In addition we need the following:

    Week 16.
    Saturday night – KC over Oakland
    1:00 – NE over Jacksonville
    4:00 – Cincy over Denver
    Christmas night – Miami over Jets

    Yes, we need to root for NE and Miami. That’s going to be tough.

    Week 17
    This is where the Jacksonville loss helps us.

    In my old scenario, we needed KC to beat Jacksonville. Now need EITHER:

    KC over Jacksonville

    OR

    SF over Denver.

    The reason is that Denver beats us in tie-breakers, but KC beats Denver and we beat KC. So it’s simple. If Denver finishes 9-7, we also need KC to finish 9-7. Because then they would knock out Denver since ties are broken within the division first. If Denver finishes 8-8, then we don’t care what KC does.

    Finish (If KC beats Jax)
    Buff – 9-7
    Den – 9-7
    Jets – 9-7
    KC – 9-7
    Jax –8-8

    We beat the Jets on the 4th tie-breaker, KC beats Denver in the AFC West Tie-breaker, Buffalo beats KC on AFC record.

    Finish (if SF beats Denver because Jax beat KC)
    Buff – 9-7
    Jets – 9-7
    Jax –9-7
    KC – 8-8
    Den – 8-8

    We beat the Jets on the 4th tie-breaker, Buffalo beats Jax on head to head.


    Scenario 2: NEW

    This scenario is similar to the first, only in this one, we do not concede the first wild card to Cincy. We concede it to Denver.

    Under this scenario, we once again need to win out.

    Cincy finishes the season 0-3 (At Indy, At Den, Pitts).

    Tonight
    Indy over Cincy

    Week 16
    1:00 – NE over Jacksonville
    4:00 – Denver over Cincy
    Christmas night – Miami over Jets

    Week 17
    *Pitts over Cincy

    *This is where it gets interesting, we may not actually need this game. This could get confusing.

    Assuming Cincy beats to Pittsburgh and finishes 9-7, the race for the last spot would look something like this.

    Finish
    Buff – 9-7
    Cincy – 9-7
    Jax – 9-7 or 8-8 (L to NE, and it doesn’t matter about KC. )
    Jets – 9-7
    KC – 9-7 or 8-8 (W over Oakland, and it doesn’t matter about JAX)

    Again, tie-breakers are broken in the division first, therefore we eliminate the Jets based on the 4th tie-breaker.

    Then we go to AFC record and Cincy and Buffalo would finish 7-5, while the others would not and thus be eliminated.

    Buffalo and Cincy would go to the 4th wild card tiebreaker, which is Strength of victory. As is stands right now, if my plan plays out, The teams we beat have 62 wins and the teams Cincy beat have 57 wins. So as of now, we would have the tie-breaker and would get the spot. Those numbers will change in the last 2 weeks. If we did manage to tie in that 4th tie-breaker it would go to strength of schedule and we would also win that one. So Cincy would have to have a 6 point swing in Strength of victory over the last 2 weeks of the season.

    Now if Cincy does lose to Pittsburgh in week 17, Strength of victory won’t matter because they’ll finish a game behind us at 8-8. It would look like this:

    Finish
    Buff – 9-7
    Jax – 9-7 or 8-8 (L to NE, and it doesn’t matter about KC. )
    Jets – 9-7
    KC – 9-7 or 8-8 (W over Oakland, and it doesn’t matter about JAX)
    Cincy – 8-8.

    Like the scenario above, we beat Jets on 4th tiebreaker, and we’d beat either the Jags or KC on tie-breaker. We’re in the playoffs.
    Resign our own guys!
  • YardRat
    Well, lookie here...
    • Dec 2004
    • 86296

    #2
    Re: Updated Playoff picture.

    Everything went perfect yesterday. We even got a bonus Jacksonville loss. I’ll show you how that helps us later.
    It would've been 'perfect' if Minnesota beat the Jets.
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    • The_Philster
      Registered User
      • Jul 2002
      • 52180

      #3
      Re: Updated Playoff picture.

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      • ICE74129
        Legendary Zoner
        • Feb 2005
        • 10796

        #4
        Re: Updated Playoff picture.

        Ok holdup, first off we have to go 9-7 and I don't see it unless the Ravens sit their starters.

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        • Patrick76777
          Registered User
          • Jul 2002
          • 17297

          #5
          Re: Updated Playoff picture.

          This is confusing and I fear that it may make it seem more difficult then it actually is.

          Scenario 1

          Week 16
          KC over Oak
          NE over Jax
          Cincy over Den
          Miami over Jets

          Week 17

          KC over Jax
          Or
          SF over Den


          Scenario 2

          Tonight
          Indy over Cincy

          Week 16
          NE over Jax
          Denver over Cincy
          Miami over Jets

          Week 17
          We may or may not need Pitts to beat Cincy. Depending on Strength of victory ti-breaker.
          Resign our own guys!

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          • The_Philster
            Registered User
            • Jul 2002
            • 52180

            #6
            Re: Updated Playoff picture.

            Originally posted by ICE74129
            Ok holdup, first off we have to go 9-7.
            He already said that we'd have to win out
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            • ICE74129
              Legendary Zoner
              • Feb 2005
              • 10796

              #7
              Re: Updated Playoff picture.

              Originally posted by The_Philster
              He already said that we'd have to win out
              And?

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              • Patrick76777
                Registered User
                • Jul 2002
                • 17297

                #8
                Re: Updated Playoff picture.

                Originally posted by YardRat
                It would've been 'perfect' if Minnesota beat the Jets.

                We still would have needed the Jets to lose to Miami anyway so they finish 3-3 in the East and it goes to the 4th tie-breaker.

                A loss to Minny wouldn't really have helped us believe it or not.
                Resign our own guys!

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                • Dr. Lecter
                  Zero for Zero!
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 67946

                  #9
                  Re: Updated Playoff picture.

                  Originally posted by ICE74129
                  Ok holdup, first off we have to go 9-7 and I don't see it unless the Ravens sit their starters.
                  With McNair being banged up, that might happen.

                  Regardless, the Ravens are not an offensive juggernaut. While I agree the Bills migthnot score very much inthat game, I also don't see teh Ravens racking up many points.

                  16-13 Bills. McGee finally gets his KO return for a TD.
                  Originally posted by mysticsoto
                  Lecter is right in everything he said.

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                  • Patrick76777
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 17297

                    #10
                    Re: Updated Playoff picture.

                    What’s very interesting is that if Indy can win tonight, the Cincy v. Denver game won’t really matter.

                    If Cincy wins that one, we go with Scenario 1

                    If Denver wins it, we’ll go to Scenario 2.
                    Resign our own guys!

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                    • Patrick76777
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 17297

                      #11
                      Re: Updated Playoff picture.

                      Originally posted by Patrick76777
                      What’s very interesting is that if Indy can win tonight, the Cincy v. Denver game won’t really matter.

                      If Cincy wins that one, we go with Scenario 1

                      If Denver wins it, we’ll go to Scenario 2.

                      And if Cincy losses tonight and we go with Scenario 2, we could very well be in a spot where we won't need week 17 help.

                      One game vs. the Ravens for a spot in the playoffs.
                      Resign our own guys!

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                      • ICE74129
                        Legendary Zoner
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 10796

                        #12
                        Re: Updated Playoff picture.

                        Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                        With McNair being banged up, that might happen.

                        Regardless, the Ravens are not an offensive juggernaut. While I agree the Bills migthnot score very much inthat game, I also don't see teh Ravens racking up many points.

                        16-13 Bills. McGee finally gets his KO return for a TD.
                        True, its going to be more so how we protect the ball and score. If we can put up 17-24 points we win easy at Baltimore.

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                        • Romes
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 5766

                          #13
                          Re: Updated Playoff picture.

                          Go Miami
                          Originally posted by paladin warrior
                          RALPH is drove me nut.

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                          • HHURRICANE
                            Registered User
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 15490

                            #14
                            Re: Updated Playoff picture.

                            Guys we are in much better shape than you realize. We own some tie breakers etc. What really needs to happen is getting to 9-7. The teams that are at 8-6 have there work cut out. An Indy win would be huge tonight!!

                            The Bills can beat the Ravens. Hell, with the exception of the Bears we have hung with everybody this year!!

                            Travis Henry coming back to Buffalo scares me.

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                            • jdbillsfan
                              Registered User
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 1071

                              #15
                              Re: Updated Playoff picture.

                              What about if the Jets beat Miami? Are we out?

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