What would be your FAcy plan for the Bills as of now?

[WG]

Considering FAcy only and not the draft, given our holes, whom would you sign that we could easily squeeze into the cap room that we have.

Part of this analysis would be to trade or keep Price. What we get for him doesn't matter for this exercise since the draft isn't being taken into consideration.

What would be your final defensive starting lineup?

Assume that the offense is set at:

Bledsoe, Centers or Crosby, Henry, Moulds, Price or Reed, Moore, Jennings, Brown, Teague, Sullivan, and Williams.

My moves would be to:

Sign:

LB: Spikes or Peterson (definitely spend some big bucks there)

DT: Sign Thornton for a moderate amount of cash.

DE: Sign Lance Johnstone for a moderate or less amt. of cash. or Scioli if we have a little more.

S: If possible, grab a S, McKnight maybe or another.


Defensive SLU:

LDE: Schobel or Jones
RDE: Johnstone
DTs: PW and Thornton
WLB: Spikes or Peterson
MLB: Fletcher
SLB: Posey
CBs: AW, NC, (NB: Thomas)
Ss: Prioleau, Wire, or McKnight or other pickup or draftee.

The only caveat w/ that scenario is that either Schobel or Johnstone would have to move to the LDE side.

I think this would give us a very formidable defense.

Not sure what side Jones plays. Anyone know?

[justasportsfan]

Wys, are you just trying to earn the zb's to pay Mike? You already have 14,000.

[TypicalBill]

jones used to play right side, but in his final season in TB, he switched to LDE to give Rice the right side

[TypicalBill]

MARCUS JONES:
A veteran pass rushing specialist who has experience playing at every position across the defensive line ... Ranks seventh on the club's all-time sack list with 24 career sacks ... Savvy talent who has unmatched power and speed ... Lined up at LDE in 2001 to make room for Simeon Rice after playing on the right side the prior two seasons (1999-2000) ... Has started in 31 of his last 32 regular season games ... Had just 32 tackles and one sack in his first three NFL seasons, but can boast 125 tackles and 23 sacks in his last three seasons (1999-2001) ... Has totaled 157 career tackles, 24 sacks, five passes defensed, three fumble recoveries and two forced fumbles ... Has seen action in 84 career games with 39 starts

[Ingtar33]

Jones plays both... He struggled a bit in 2001 when he was moved to LE with only 3 sacks (the previous year he had 13 sacks from RE), but he had some nagging injuries and was never quite healthy that season.

The ideal would be for

RE Schobel
UT Williams
DT Adams/Washington/Traylor/McGlockton
LE Jones/or other FA, Draft pick
SLB Posey/some rookie
MLB Fletcher
WLB Spikes/Peterson
CB Winfield/Clements
SS Wire
FS anyone other than Prioleau (Jackson, a rookie, anyone)

However... this will be hard to swing as long as Price in on the team.

[Ingtar33]

furthermore Jones has played some DT in the NFL (and was a DT in college)... so he's big enough to be a LE for our "unbalanced" line... furthermore he is (when healthy) much quicker than any of the guys currently on our team or I've seen mentioned outside of Douglas...

[clumping platelets]

who's McKnight? :huh:

[Tatonka]

he means sammy knight

[Ð]

McThanks for clearing that up ;)

[THATHURMANATOR]

I would be very happy if your plan happened wys

[WG]

Originally posted by Ð
McThanks for clearing that up ;)

Alright...

LMAO D!!!


T,

If my plan happens, I'll kiss ya!

:scared:

[WG]

Originally posted by Ingtar33
Jones plays both... He struggled a bit in 2001 when he was moved to LE with only 3 sacks (the previous year he had 13 sacks from RE), but he had some nagging injuries and was never quite healthy that season.

The ideal would be for

RE Schobel
UT Williams
DT Adams/Washington/Traylor/McGlockton
LE Jones/or other FA, Draft pick
SLB Posey/some rookie
MLB Fletcher
WLB Spikes/Peterson
CB Winfield/Clements
SS Wire
FS anyone other than Prioleau (Jackson, a rookie, anyone)

However... this will be hard to swing as long as Price in on the team.


Don't understand why you like Traylor, Washington, and McGlockton so much Ing.

Traylor and McG will be 34 this season, TW will be 35. All three are in that heavy lugging mode where age really begins to take a toll on them and TW and Traylor have clearly slowed somewhat.

If it'd be for a one year fix, then fine, but none of those guys would likely last more than a year or two before we'd cut them. Even Adams wasn't the same last year for whatever reason.

I like the rest of you set up, but just don't think the Bills should go for the downside aging players at DT which would only be a S/T fix, arguably only for one year. I hear ya that we draft a guy, but that works if and only if we actually do. If we get to our first pick and there's a much better player available, either we shoot our plan all to hell or don't take that player.

I like looking for an up and coming DT who may cost less. We have to keep in mind that we've had nothing at DT. So even a proven and seasoned starter would be huge, even if that isn't a pro-bowl player. The step up from Office, Edwards, or Robertson is a big one.

[kgun12]

Ok I didn't look at any other posts. So this is what I would do.

1. I would give PP until Friday to get a trade done. Than if no trade was done I would either trade him to the highest bidder (TD said there was other interested). If no trade I would remove the tag and take back my $5milllion.

2. I would make an offer to Cincy for Spikes not because he is a Big name, but I feel he is the best LB out there. I would give them 24 hours to decide of I would pull the offer and make a hard run at Peterson. Even if I had to over pay a little more at this point to sercure him.

3. I would go get Thorton from Tenn. Longer career head of him than Adams.

4.Resign Hollis.

5.Go get a WR, either K. Dyson or L. Coles.

6. Any money leftover would go to the June 1 cuts after I reevaluated my team, see how the draft went and how the DE's I pick up look like?

[THATHURMANATOR]

"If my plan happens, I'll kiss ya! "

Is that a promise????

[The_Philster]

Originally posted by THATHURMANATOR
"If my plan happens, I'll kiss ya! "

Is that a promise????


:eek:

You sit on your side of the section next year if you wanna talk like that. :ontome:

[RedEyE]

I agree Wys, signing a big number OLB is necessity at this point. Price is gone in IMO. The Falcons are going to grab him soon. I don't have any concrete evidence to back that, so call it a premonition. With the Price contract gone there should be enough funds to sign both Scioli and Thorton.

[Ingtar33]

True wys,

They are on the down side of their career, and it would be a temporary fix (one or two years)... but what my ultimate plan would be for them to bring someone in to fill that position for two years, and let a rookie or even Ron Edwards fill in to the roll (DLmen rarely are able to be every down players until their 3rd - 6th seasons)… the idea would be to give our young players the time to develop… I’m not interested in getting a second rate guy (like Thornton or Ford… and they are second rate talent) to fill space… I’d rather get a guy who’s got another season or two left in the tank, which can provide the needed time for our own young guys to develop, AND most importantly be a bigger difference maker than some second tier guy…

If you saw anything of big Ted last year (in the little he played) he was far superior to Thornton... he’s superior to pretty much everyone out there... and even though Adams looks like he is getting old fast, he is a much better player on a bad day than Thornton is on a good one...