I feel that some of us may have the RW sqeaky wheel all wrong

[Mitchy moo]

I think that RW maybe fighting for us, the Buffalo fan to keep his team in town and keep it viable. This isn't about a wealthy person making money anymore, it's about him saving his legacy to the town that made it for him. I as well as others here owe him a apology and debt of gratitude for our way of looking at things. Here's to you Ralph, thanks for helping all of us keep our only dream team here, Merry Xmas.
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He’s an elderly man who’s tired and frustrated and needs somebody else to take up the fight. But his goal remains for the Bills to survive and thrive here, though their future is bleak.
And Wilson strongly suggested as much when he said to the assembled media, “Fellas, enjoy the team,” inferring it wouldn’t be in Buffalo very long.

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=17624514&BRD=2725&PAG=461&dept_id=562745&rfi=6

[RedEyE]

Re: I feel that some of us may have the RW sqeaky wheel all wrong

If it weren't for Christmas Skooby, I might have called you a dillhole.

[LtFinFan66]

Re: I feel that some of us may have the RW sqeaky wheel all wrong

[RedEyE]

Re: I feel that some of us may have the RW sqeaky wheel all wrong

Even so your topic of discussion does hold some merit.

I used to think that Ralph was fighting for city of Buffalo and the franchise, but recently I've seen it differently. I think the old cheap codger is fighting against change and change alone. He sees the value of a dollar through the eyes of a 80 year old man. He's watched this league grow as fat as his pocket book. One day it cost him 3 dollars and a bag of peanuts to start a franchise. His pockets grew fat with time and now it's time to give a little back and reinvest for a future NFL. The old guy knows he won't see the return. This is the wrong way for him to leave this league. The ultimate demise of this team will be Mr. Wilson stubbornly rejecting a modern NFL.

[Goobylal]

Re: I feel that some of us may have the RW sqeaky wheel all wrong

It may be Christmas, but since I'm not Christian, I WILL call you a dillhole, RedEyE.

[Devin]

Re: I feel that some of us may have the RW sqeaky wheel all wrong

From my understanding Wilson has always spent cash. I think a lot of FA's we missed out on just didnt want to come to Buffahole.

Havent we always spent to the cap, during the 90's runs wasnt Wilson one of the big spenders with Kelly, Thurman and Co.?

The past couple years we have offered great contracts to athletes who ended up taking other deals in larger market areas. TKO was signed for what 30-35 mil or something?

I know Ralph can be stingy at times, but I mean is his reputation that deserved?

[Mitchy moo]

Re: I feel that some of us may have the RW sqeaky wheel all wrong

Even so your topic of discussion does hold some merit.

I used to think that Ralph was fighting for city of Buffalo and the franchise, but recently I've seen it differently. I think the old cheap codger is fighting against change and change alone. He sees the value of a dollar through the eyes of a 80 year old man. He's watched this league grow as fat as his pocket book. One day it cost him 3 dollars and a bag of peanuts to start a franchise. His pockets grew fat with time and now it's time to give a little back and reinvest for a future NFL. The old guy knows he won't see the return. This is the wrong way for him to leave this league. The ultimate demise of this team will be Mr. Wilson stubbornly rejecting a modern NFL.

I think you are dead wrong here RE, it's the modern NFL rejecting teams like Mr. Wilson's who got them here. It's teams like the Bills and others that made this league hit every corner of our great country. Mr. Wilson doesn't want anyteam large or small to get left behind or one be greater than another. If they all share, all of the money that they earn on a more equal level than all the teams that are here now can share in the strength that the league has built. RW is trying to save his team for our area and the NFL is turning away at every chance. I think this "old guy" sees things the way the are and will not let people turn him away. Thank you again Ralph, all of us lifelong Bills fans will never forget you.

[Goobylal]

Re: I feel that some of us may have the RW sqeaky wheel all wrong

Basing the cap on ALL revenue and not just shared revenue means that lower revenue-producing clubs will have to eat into profits and thus have a competitive disadvantage, like the less wealthy clubs in MLB. Why people have a hard time understanding this concept really makes me wonder about the IQ of Bills fans.

[BidsJr]

Re: I feel that some of us may have the RW sqeaky wheel all wrong

It may be Christmas, but since I'm not Christian, I WILL call you a dillhole, RedEyE.

Christians do NOT celebrate Christmas as a religious holiday. So no worrys.

[BidsJr]

Re: I feel that some of us may have the RW sqeaky wheel all wrong

So no worrys.

Except for the obvious of course.

[Typ0]

Re: I feel that some of us may have the RW sqeaky wheel all wrong

Christians do NOT celebrate Christmas as a religious holiday. So no worrys.

LOL...that's funny.

[RedEyE]

Re: I feel that some of us may have the RW sqeaky wheel all wrong

I think you are dead wrong here RE, it's the modern NFL rejecting teams like Mr. Wilson's who got them here. It's teams like the Bills and others that made this league hit every corner of our great country. Mr. Wilson doesn't want anyteam large or small to get left behind or one be greater than another. If they all share, all of the money that they earn on a more equal level than all the teams that are here now can share in the strength that the league has built. RW is trying to save his team for our area and the NFL is turning away at every chance. I think this "old guy" sees things the way the are and will not let people turn him away. Thank you again Ralph, all of us lifelong Bills fans will never forget you.

I agree that what Ralph has done makes him a corner stone of this league, but I don't at all condone the notion that teams should profit share. Like it or not this is a capitalist society and only the strong survive. Once upon a time that was Buffalo. Since then, unfortunately, there has been an obvious turn of events. And its the fans that made it this way.

If Ralph can't afford to maintain then team at the current NFL standard, then the bottom line is, as a corner stone of this league, as co-founder of professional football, he should stop being so selfish and sell to someone who can and will have the means to keep the Bills in Buffalo as well as have them contributing proportionately in a modernized NFL. Bottom line.

I do not agree with profit sharing to the degree that a team as lucrative as say Dallas, or Washington need share their wealth with a lowly downtrodden franchise like Buffalo. It's like your neighbor asking you to give him a portion of your annual salary because you make more then he and he can no longer keep up with the neighborhood. It's bull****, and it's business. Plain and simple.

[RedEyE]

Re: I feel that some of us may have the RW sqeaky wheel all wrong

From my understanding Wilson has always spent cash. I think a lot of FA's we missed out on just didnt want to come to Buffahole.

Havent we always spent to the cap, during the 90's runs wasnt Wilson one of the big spenders with Kelly, Thurman and Co.?

The past couple years we have offered great contracts to athletes who ended up taking other deals in larger market areas. TKO was signed for what 30-35 mil or something?

I know Ralph can be stingy at times, but I mean is his reputation that deserved?

I think that's true as well, but I think recently the cap has hit a level that he can no longer keep up with.

I may sound gruff in my statements but I just think it's time for a change for this franchise. Sometimes you have to shed your skin to grow.

[jamze132]

Re: I feel that some of us may have the RW sqeaky wheel all wrong

He needs to sell the team before he kicks the bucket. I just hope he has a plan stated in his will that will keep the Bills in Buffalo.

[Goobylal]

Re: I feel that some of us may have the RW sqeaky wheel all wrong

Again, WHO is going to cough-up the $800M to buy the team and keep the team in Buffalo after he/she finds out that he needs to dip into his own money to sign big-name FA's and keep the team competitive, much less pay for top-notch coaches?

Everyone talks about the $31M GROSS (i.e. before taxes and other stuff) operating income Ralph stands to make this year (which is more conjecture on Forbes' part than anything), but that's with a cheaper head coach and assistant coaching staff, spending $10M less than the cap, and having NO other debt whatsoever, much less $800M.

And the NFL is not capitalism per se. They're out to make money as a group, but a successful group is the sum of its parts. The NFL got to where it is because EVERY team had a level playing field and had a chance every year. And the old system where the cap was based on shared revenue was perfect, because every team DID have a level playing field (even though Snyder plays Steinbrenner by destroying the pay/bonus scale), while not making every team have to share their total revenue.

What is mind-boggling is that the owners are so willing to give more money to the players, but not to the other owners. You know why? Because they want to shift the balance of power in the NFL, and that will make it like MLB.

So keep dissing Ralph. But don't worry; in a few years you won't have a team, much less an owner, to complain about.