The forgotten draft pick: Brad Butler

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  • G. Host
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    • Jul 2002
    • 10298
    #1

    The forgotten draft pick: Brad Butler

    Every other draft pick has contributed, even Aaron Merz who started a game.
    RoundPickOverallPos.PlayerCollegeDid
    188SDonte WhitnerOhio StateStarter Day1
    12626DTJohn McCargoNC StateDL Rotation
    3670CBAshton YoubotyOhio State4th CB (late)
    48105SKo SimpsonSouth CarolinaStarter
    51134DTKyle WilliamsLSUDL Rotation
    510143OTBrad ButlerVirginia
    69178OLBKeith EllisonOregon St.Starter Midseason
    78216OTTerrance PenningtonNew MexicoStarter Midseason
    740248GAaron MerzCaliforniaStarted a game


    For a 5th round pick of his potential I thought he would at least get some time on kick teams on line. I know they only keep so many on the OL active but for the Bills to draft him in the 5th, even before Pennington, it means they must have seen something in him. Hopefully he is not "Mr. Project" for the Bills but I had hope for him due to his size and speed.
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  • YardRat
    Well, lookie here...
    • Dec 2004
    • 86187
    #2
    Re: The forgotten draft pick: Brad Butler

    With Peters cementing himself on the left side, and Pennington growing into the right game-by-game, it's nice to have the luxury of being able to develop Butler.
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    • Forward_Lateral
      Registered User
      • Mar 2004
      • 29896
      #3
      Re: The forgotten draft pick: Brad Butler

      Butler's seen game action.

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      • Dr. Lecter
        Zero for Zero!
        • Mar 2003
        • 67938
        #4
        Re: The forgotten draft pick: Brad Butler

        To have 7 or 8 (I don't count Youboty, it was one game) picks contribute as rookies is purely awesome.

        No complaints here. Maybe he will develop, maybe not. Being Mr. Project would not be too bad. Howard Ballard was at one point.
        Originally posted by mysticsoto
        Lecter is right in everything he said.

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        • Tatonka
          Registered User
          • Jul 2002
          • 21289
          #5
          Re: The forgotten draft pick: Brad Butler

          yeah, it is really wierd that the guy hasnt seen any time.. i really thought he would be the one inserted into the right tackle spot over pennington.. butler was the more polished college player and was deemed to have more a "mean streak". i really thought he would be a starter sooner rather than later.. i am not complaining that pennington has worked out, but i am surprised that butler has not seen the field much.
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          • jamze132
            Don’t hate…
            • Jun 2003
            • 29330
            #6
            Re: The forgotten draft pick: Brad Butler

            Maybe Pennington "gets" the NFL game better then Butler.

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            • mysticsoto
              Too sober for this...
              • Apr 2004
              • 31439
              #7
              Re: The forgotten draft pick: Brad Butler

              Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
              To have 7 or 8 (I don't count Youboty, it was one game) picks contribute as rookies is purely awesome.

              No complaints here. Maybe he will develop, maybe not. Being Mr. Project would not be too bad. Howard Ballard was at one point.

              Agreed. This has been our best draft in a LONG time!!! Kudos to Marv for picking the right people.

              I suspect Butler will be good also, but my initial thought on him when we drafted him was that he needed to gain some weight or DEs would push him around easily...I just went to look him up and it says 309 lbs for him. Did he gain some already? I thought he was less than that???

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              • John Doe
                Florida Man
                • Jul 2002
                • 2516
                #8
                Re: The forgotten draft pick: Brad Butler

                Originally posted by mysticsoto
                Agreed. This has been our best draft in a LONG time!!! Kudos to Marv for picking the right people.

                I suspect Butler will be good also, but my initial thought on him when we drafted him was that he needed to gain some weight or DEs would push him around easily...I just went to look him up and it says 309 lbs for him. Did he gain some already? I thought he was less than that???
                The official Bills bio has him listed at 292 lbs.

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                • YardRat
                  Well, lookie here...
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 86187
                  #9
                  Re: The forgotten draft pick: Brad Butler

                  From different draft profiles...

                  6'8", 296
                  6'7", 310
                  6'7", 303
                  6'7", 309
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                  • Goobylal
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 19368
                    #10
                    Re: The forgotten draft pick: Brad Butler

                    I thought I read that Butler, despite his size, was pretty weak for an OL. Don't know since I couldn't get combine numbers this year, unlike previous years. That's probably what his problem mostly is, and he also probably hasn't picked things up as quickly as Pennington and Merz. But I suspect his future, if anywhere, is at OG.

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                    • Scumbag College
                      Registered User
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 4949
                      #11
                      Re: The forgotten draft pick: Brad Butler

                      Is there any chance that they may be having him bulk up and play RG? I don't know much about him, but if he played tackle in college it could benefit in pass blocking being moved to guard.
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                      • Goobylal
                        Registered User
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 19368
                        #12
                        Re: The forgotten draft pick: Brad Butler

                        Originally posted by Scumbag College
                        Is there any chance that they may be having him bulk up and play RG? I don't know much about him, but if he played tackle in college it could benefit in pass blocking being moved to guard.
                        With Peters and Pennington entrenched as the starting OT's, Butler can only get a shot to start at OG. They had him there earlier, but he's currently listed as the backup RT. It just might be a case where they want him to only be a backup OT, and I suspect if Gandy leaves, he'll be the backup there as well.

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                        • Scumbag College
                          Registered User
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 4949
                          #13
                          Re: The forgotten draft pick: Brad Butler

                          Originally posted by Goobylal
                          With Peters and Pennington entrenched as the starting OT's, Butler can only get a shot to start at OG. They had him there earlier, but he's currently listed as the backup RT. It just might be a case where they want him to only be a backup OT, and I suspect if Gandy leaves, he'll be the backup there as well.
                          Makes sense to me. With the Bills offense improving the way it has since the bye week, I think the insertion and improvement of Pennington, along with Gandy's switch to LG and Peters to LT, has been the biggest reason for the improvement besides JP's play. With Gandy at LG and Peters at LT, not only has the pass protection been great, but Willis has been having alot of success running over that side of the line. I really hope they try to resign Gandy this offseason and keep him at LG, where he is very capable. If that happens, I think Butler would be a good prospect-solid backup at both tackle spots.
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                          • G. Host
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                            • Jul 2002
                            • 10298
                            #14
                            Re: The forgotten draft pick: Brad Butler

                            Originally posted by Goobylal
                            I thought I read that Butler, despite his size, was pretty weak for an OL. Don't know since I couldn't get combine numbers this year, unlike previous years. That's probably what his problem mostly is, and he also probably hasn't picked things up as quickly as Pennington and Merz. But I suspect his future, if anywhere, is at OG.
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                            • Goobylal
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                              • Jan 2004
                              • 19368
                              #15
                              Re: The forgotten draft pick: Brad Butler

                              It depends on what Gandy asks for; and if it's close to say, what Steinbach (Bungles) or Dielman (Chargers) want, you go with them.

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