What was Lindell supposed to do, lie??

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  • MikeInRoch
    Registered User
    • Sep 2003
    • 10446

    What was Lindell supposed to do, lie??

    Lindell is a professional. If he KNOWS that he cannot make a kick because of the wind, then should you have him lie to the coach and have him try it anyway?

    Heck no. Anyone calling for his head is a moron.
    "'Clean up your room.', 'Stand up straight.', 'Pick up your feet.', 'Take it like a man.', 'Be nice to your sister.', 'Don't mix beer and wine, ever.'. Oh yeah, 'Don't drive on the railroad track.'"

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  • YardRat
    Well, lookie here...
    • Dec 2004
    • 86322

    #2
    Re: What was Lindell supposed to do, lie??

    Thank you, Oh Voice of Reason.
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    • don137
      Registered User
      • Jul 2002
      • 7720

      #3
      Re: What was Lindell supposed to do, lie??

      I have no problem with Lindell giving an honest answer...I have a problem with the Bills coaching staff not asking Lindell what yard line the Bills need to get to so he can make a kick/ If they did ask they surly did not act like they had to get there because they did not act like they were not close enough until it was too late...

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      • MikeInRoch
        Registered User
        • Sep 2003
        • 10446

        #4
        Re: What was Lindell supposed to do, lie??

        Originally posted by don137
        I have no problem with Lindell giving an honest answer...I have a problem with the Bills coaching staff not asking Lindell what yard line the Bills need to get to so he can make a kick/ If they did ask they surly did not act like they had to get there because they did not act like they were not close enough until it was too late...
        That I will not argue with.
        "'Clean up your room.', 'Stand up straight.', 'Pick up your feet.', 'Take it like a man.', 'Be nice to your sister.', 'Don't mix beer and wine, ever.'. Oh yeah, 'Don't drive on the railroad track.'"

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        • Cntrygal
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          • Jul 2002
          • 44884

          #5
          Re: What was Lindell supposed to do, lie??

          Originally posted by don137
          I have no problem with Lindell giving an honest answer...I have a problem with the Bills coaching staff not asking Lindell what yard line the Bills need to get to so he can make a kick/ If they did ask they surly did not act like they had to get there because they did not act like they were not close enough until it was too late...

          ABSOLUTELY!
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          • Nighthawk
            Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
            • Jul 2002
            • 15437

            #6
            Re: What was Lindell supposed to do, lie??

            Originally posted by don137
            I have no problem with Lindell giving an honest answer...I have a problem with the Bills coaching staff not asking Lindell what yard line the Bills need to get to so he can make a kick/ If they did ask they surly did not act like they had to get there because they did not act like they were not close enough until it was too late...
            I agree, this isn't on Lindell, it's on the coaches who weren't prepared for the entire final drive. Not knowing what they are going to do on that last play until the very end is unacceptable.

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            • Forward_Lateral
              Registered User
              • Mar 2004
              • 29897

              #7
              Re: What was Lindell supposed to do, lie??

              If Lindell felt as though he couldn't make it from there, he should've said something ahead of time, not at the last possible moment.

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              • SquishDaFish
                Lets GO BUFFALO!!
                • Jun 2005
                • 17034

                #8
                Re: What was Lindell supposed to do, lie??

                AT LEAST TRY FOR IT! He showed he has NO ... ZERO confidence in himself. Show some ******* HEART and TRY.

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                • YardRat
                  Well, lookie here...
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 86322

                  #9
                  Re: What was Lindell supposed to do, lie??

                  Originally posted by don137
                  I have no problem with Lindell giving an honest answer...I have a problem with the Bills coaching staff not asking Lindell what yard line the Bills need to get to so he can make a kick/ If they did ask they surly did not act like they had to get there because they did not act like they were not close enough until it was too late...
                  They didn't have to ask...they had already determined the twenty five was the limit at the end of the field during pre-game warm-ups. It was their 'marker'.

                  I give the staff credit for going against what they 'knew' on paper and giving Lindell the chance to possibly step up and over-achieve. I also give Lindell credit for understanding the conditions in the stadium and his capabilies well enough to realize he couldn't do it, and the team had a better chance of winning with his foot if they could get the first down and a little bit farther down field.

                  If someone wants to argue that the coaches screwed up by tossing aside the information they gathered during pre-game and shouldn't have even asked Lindell about the kick, fine...but I believe sometimes you have to at least try to go against what looks right on paper and see if the opportunity to succeed is available.
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                  • patmoran2006
                    Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 19840

                    #10
                    Re: What was Lindell supposed to do, lie??

                    If the yardline was the 25... and we had the ball second and six at the 29 yard line, with still a minute left..

                    Logic ****ing tells you to RUN THE BALL twice and try to get 5-7 more yards, short yards are A LOT more easy to come by on the ground than the air..

                    It was STUPID ****ing playcalling and nobody can say otherwise.


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                    • MikeInRoch
                      Registered User
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 10446

                      #11
                      Re: What was Lindell supposed to do, lie??

                      Originally posted by BillsIN05
                      AT LEAST TRY FOR IT! He showed he has NO ... ZERO confidence in himself. Show some ******* HEART and TRY.
                      If he is NOT PHYSICALLY ABLE to kick it that far, then NO, do not try it.

                      It's not that it would be a low percentage shot. It's that it would be a ZERO percentage shot.
                      "'Clean up your room.', 'Stand up straight.', 'Pick up your feet.', 'Take it like a man.', 'Be nice to your sister.', 'Don't mix beer and wine, ever.'. Oh yeah, 'Don't drive on the railroad track.'"

                      "Eh, Phil. That's one I happen to agree with."

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                      • odin
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 85

                        #12
                        Re: What was Lindell supposed to do, lie??

                        Either way, they thought they had a better chance converting a 4th-5 which should't be that hard for a playoff team.

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                        • losman420
                          Registered User
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 1187

                          #13
                          Re: What was Lindell supposed to do, lie??

                          i miss steve christie

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                          • Kelly The Dog
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 445

                            #14
                            Re: What was Lindell supposed to do, lie??

                            Lindell did tell them. Before the game Lindell told Levy that his longest distance was 42 yards. It was in the paper this morning. The coaching staff went into the game already deciding that 42 yards was the furthest they were going to kick into the wind. Of course, during a game the winds can change, so they asked him and he basically said no, he couldn't make it. So they went for it.

                            The coaching mistake was not already having a play called for 4th and 5 and then running it to get the first down. Criticize them for that if you want, but not the FG decision. It was easily the right one. Not one punt in the entire game out of 5 traveled over 40 yards into that wind, and punts go further than FGs. After the first quarter, none of the last three KOs even went 40 yards into that wind, let alone go straight.

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                            • TacklingDummy
                              Unreachable Douche
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 71727

                              #15
                              Re: What was Lindell supposed to do, lie??

                              Originally posted by MikeInRoch
                              Lindell is a professional. If he KNOWS that he cannot make a kick because of the wind, then should you have him lie to the coach and have him try it anyway?

                              Heck no. Anyone calling for his head is a moron.
                              All the Bills needed was 5 yards for a 1st down.

                              Was JPs throw at the end of the game effected by the wind? JP is suppose to have a rocket arm, if he can't throw the ball from the 30 yardline to the 5 yard line how was Lindell suppose to make a 45 yard field goal?

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