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  • X-Era
    What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
    • Feb 2005
    • 27670

    What now? A long look

    So what now?

    Well lets take a look at whats liekly to happen. I think a major part of what the Bills will do will be based on Jaurons say and Marvs. A friend made a good point that Marv has said the best FA's to sign are your own. I seem to remember him saying that back in the day. As far as Dick goes, I t hink our moves at the bye, and keeping all our draftees speak volumes. I originally wanted us to make huge sweeping moves, but I really dont see that happening and I explain why in each case. I think our late surge may have Dick and Marv not wanting to mess with a good thing. Ralphs comments about money make me think he isnt likely to break the bank. I honestly believe what JP says which is the personnel is already here to be a SB team, but he also has never been to win so does he really know what it takes. Anyways, I ccan easily see another conservative offseason.

    Heres the sensible (hopefully Marv and Dicks) version of what we do:

    QB- Nothing, KH can be a backup, he wasnt a cancer so he can stay, 3rd can be had just about any way
    RB- Nothing, Willis can be great, but at the minimum is solid
    TE- Maybe a youngster to push Royal. Royal made a late surge and may continue.
    FB- Maybe a youngster to push Shelton. May not be necessary, but Sheltons long in the tooth
    LT- Nothing, we have a stud here. Backup can be manned by any of the current prospects
    LG- Depends on Gandy, hes a FA. Hes been part of a successful unit after the bye, hes an x-Bear, hes done pretty well in his new position. Youngster to push him would be nice, but I can easily see Gandy getting resigned to a modest second tier OG contract, and being handed the job next year. Take a look at our success running the ball vs. which side we run to, we are doing very well on the L side, Gandy may stay. Reyes is likely cut.
    C- Fowler is a Jauron brought guy. I would love to see a big upgrade here. I honestly havent watched the middle that closely, but in the Titans game I did notice Fowler getting destroyed. I think a Mangold/Mawae type C could make this line great. But, since Fowler is a Jauron guy I could see us giving him the job too.
    RG- Preston has played well, Villarial is likely going to be cut. But an upgrade here would be great. The previously stated run stats about success vs. side of the line shows our line on the right side is weak as far as run production goes. Steinbach is a LG, but a switch may be easy. Jauron had Preston as a backup, Villarial (even though he was a Jauron guy) was part of the pathetic pre-bye OL, I can see us heading in a new direction. Womack is another guy I like alot but Im not sure Jauron likes the bigger, fatter types. I think a change is likely.
    RT- Pennington is a Jauron draftee and was promoted to being a starter and stayed there. He also has done a decent job, considering his youth. I could easily see Pennington getting the job outright. With Butler as a backup, we may look for either another mid to late rounder or a second tier backup just for security. I think Jaurons move to start TP telegraph what we will do next year as well
    WR- #1 and #3 is set. Peerless played well in the 2nd half and was brought in by the current regime. Josh also played well. Parrish had some sparks, but also some dumb plays. I see Josh and Peerless staying and playing, Parrish may be a bubble guy. The big question is whether Peerless can be all we need as #2, I think Jauron, and especially JP may argue he is just fine due to his post-bye surge. I can also see us grabbing a early draft day guy who drops into our laps. It would be a "greatest value at the pick" type pick a.l.a. Willis. Maybe a guy who could be the new punt returner or even kick returner if Clements bolts and we dont want to risk McGee to injury. A guy like Ginn Jr might make sense, Paul Williams may be another.

    DE- at RDE we are set, at LDE Kelsay and Denney are both UFA's. I can see one leaving. So that makes a LDE a big need due to the rotation theory. Jauron made no real moves, so theres no guys that would seem to be Jaurons guy to fill in. I can see LDE being a priority for a Tampa 2 style team. I can see this from either the draft or FA or both. If Freeney is allowed to leave, he plays in Tampa 2, is a Syracuse alumn, I would think we would COVET him. In the draft, I could see tweener types like Moses, Adams, Woodley fitting the Bill.
    DT- Mccargo will be back from injury and we moved up to get him, Williams was a real sleeper and nice suprise, Tripplett was solid but lackluster. Hargrove was a great mid season add that helped us get better pressure. I can see the need for one more rotation type, a run stuffer would be great, but we also cant get a strict situational guy due to giving away our D to the opposing O. I think another quick DT may be a move we make.
    OLB- Spikes made a late surge as a very solid player, hes not a top 5 or even 10 guy as of now, but I think he still is hampered by injury. This is a big question mark. Hes not a Jauron guy, he makes alot of money, and hes had a so so year. There is likely to be great players/prospects available in FA and the draft. Briggs, June, Adalius Thomas, Puz, Blades, and more are going to be out there. I could see us going either way, hoping TKO steps up more, or getting insurance through the draft or FA. At the other spot, Crowell will be back and Ellison proved to be pretty solid. I can see 1 OLB being a spot we look at.
    ILB- Fletch is the heart of our D, and has proven yet again that hes a stud (even if the idiotic pro-bowl voters cant get it right), hes not going to command big money at his age, and Ralph is rumored to be a huge Fletch fan. I see him getting resigned. The backup/insurance could happen but I think we may be looking at a mid or late rounder or second tier guy.
    CB- Even though I want Nate back I think hes gone. McGee is locked up long term, Thomas made some decent plays, and Youbouty was a Jauron draftee that will be given a shot next year. I see this being one of our biggest priorities if you agree Nate is as good as gone. We just cant afford to let our pass D get worse and remain a playoff contender. Guys like Brady will pick us apart without a strong starting CB. FA is likely to cost us heavy. I could easily see the draft being our way to fix it (in the Bills minds). Its most likely going to be an early pick due to the need to have a very good one. Guys like Hughes/Hall would seem to be fits.
    S- Both are set for a long time, the rookies made mistakes but both started virtually from day one, both are Jauron draftees, and both played well enough to earn a 8th ranked pass D. We even have Bowen signed long term to be a backup.
    P- Moormans not going anywhere and is a perrenial pro-bowler case closed
    K- Lindell is a quandry. The team plays half its games in windy Buffalo. The kick that he admitted he could not make just cost us the playoffs. Hes made many FG's this year and even some game winners. But will Jauron and Co. after a bitter loss want a guy with a stronger leg due to the winds? I could see a change being made, the big question is, is there anyone better with a stronger leg? I just cant answer that. To me it could go either way.

    I think backups/support/youngsters to push will rule our offseason. I do think we will make a few big moves but its only going to be a few.

  • DraftBoy
    Administrator
    • Jul 2002
    • 107443

    #2
    Re: What now? A long look

    Good overall analysis, Ill add my finer points later on
    COMING SOON...
    Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
    We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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    • SABURZFAN
      short bus extraordinaire
      • Jul 2002
      • 50747

      #3
      Re: What now? A long look

      i wonder what ICE would think?
      Originally posted by yordad
      Christ, you are the queerest person in the history of Bills fanhood. I swear to god I would stomp you.

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      • X-Era
        What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
        • Feb 2005
        • 27670

        #4
        Re: What now? A long look

        Originally posted by DraftBoy
        Good overall analysis, Ill add my finer points later on
        Heres a crack at the draft based on my post:

        1) Marcus McCauley
        2) Ryan Kalil
        3) Buster Davis
        4) Paul Williams
        5) Matt Trannon
        6) Garrett Wolfe
        7) BPA

        FA:

        Steinbach or Womack

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        • X-Era
          What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
          • Feb 2005
          • 27670

          #5
          Re: What now? A long look

          Originally posted by SABURZFAN
          i wonder what ICE would think?
          Im actually interested in your take. Set the QB issue aside.

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          • alohabillsfan
            Registered User
            • Sep 2003
            • 3206

            #6
            Re: What now? A long look

            Originally posted by jp-era
            Heres a crack at the draft based on my post:

            1) Marcus McCauley
            2) Ryan Kalil
            3) Buster Davis
            4) Paul Williams
            5) Matt Trannon
            6) Garrett Wolfe
            7) BPA

            FA:

            Steinbach or Womack

            I agree that I do not think we will make a huge splash into FA,I would be estatic if we resign Gandy, Fletch, OLB and another guard. as far as the draft no names yet but positions are in order;

            DT
            DE
            RB
            ILB
            CB
            OT

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            • Cntrygal
              Visually stunning but camera-shy.
              • Jul 2002
              • 44884

              #7
              Re: What now? A long look

              I disagree about Lindell's not taking that kick made us miss the playoffs. If the playcalling for that series had been more focused on moving the ball instead of burning the clock - we probably would have gotten close enough for a FG or even a TD.

              Besides, we lost plenty of other close games earlier in the season.
              Originally posted by notacon
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              • X-Era
                What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
                • Feb 2005
                • 27670

                #8
                Re: What now? A long look

                Originally posted by Cntrygal
                I disagree about Lindell's not taking that kick made us miss the playoffs. If the playcalling for that series had been more focused on moving the ball instead of burning the clock - we probably would have gotten close enough for a FG or even a TD.

                Besides, we lost plenty of other close games earlier in the season.
                Yes, I agree. I actually pointed to how productive Lindell was. However, can we accept a FG kicker who cant kick a 45 yarder with the game on the line in windy Buff? I have never noticed this issue before, maybe its always been there with all our other kickers. Yes, there were plenty of other plays that cost us, the 36 yard Young run was flat out unacceptable for any defense.

                Thats why I said I feel its a quandry. Do we need someone who can kick 45+ yards with accuracy in windy Buffalo? Is it even possible?

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                • Dr. Lecter
                  Zero for Zero!
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 67946

                  #9
                  Re: What now? A long look

                  One correction: Denney is not an UFA.
                  Originally posted by mysticsoto
                  Lecter is right in everything he said.

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                  • X-Era
                    What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 27670

                    #10
                    Re: What now? A long look

                    Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                    One correction: Denney is not an UFA.
                    Not a one year last year? let me check

                    Your right good call, 4 year contract signed last year!

                    That eases my mind a bit. I think it likely means 1 DE needs to be added.

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                    • losman420
                      Registered User
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 1187

                      #11
                      Re: What now? A long look

                      i miss steve christie

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                      • X-Era
                        What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 27670

                        #12
                        Re: What now? A long look

                        Originally posted by alohabillsfan
                        I agree that I do not think we will make a huge splash into FA,I would be estatic if we resign Gandy, Fletch, OLB and another guard. as far as the draft no names yet but positions are in order;

                        DT
                        DE
                        RB
                        ILB
                        CB
                        OT
                        So Clements walks and you list CB as the 5th most important position???

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                        • BILLSROCK1212
                          !?!?!?!?!?
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 5269

                          #13
                          Re: What now? A long look

                          FA

                          Boss Bailey, Rod Coleman, a Ruben Brown return would be kool but is unlikely,
                          Cooper Carlisle, Kevin Curtis, Shaun O'Hara, Leonard Little, and Rian Lindell who we have just resigned

                          the majority of the above have some connection to this team and would all make our team a playoff caliber team

                          In the draft we should address CB first assuming Nate Clements becomes a FA and then O-line

                          Mock Draft

                          1. Levi Brown OT Penn St.
                          2. Fred Bennett CB South Carolina
                          3. Ryan Kalil C USC-his father Frank was drafted by the Bills (if not him Kyle Young St.)
                          4. Ray McDonald DT/DE Florida
                          6. Tim Shaw ILB Penn St
                          7. Scott Chandler TE Iowa

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                          • YardRat
                            Well, lookie here...
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 86329

                            #14
                            Re: What now? A long look

                            Nice post, jp.
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                            • Dr. Lecter
                              Zero for Zero!
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 67946

                              #15
                              Re: What now? A long look

                              Don't count out a Ruben return. He is an old Marv guy.
                              Originally posted by mysticsoto
                              Lecter is right in everything he said.

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