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  • jdbillsfan
    Registered User
    • Oct 2002
    • 1071
    #1

    Samuels vs Clements?

    Samuels and Clements are the top two FA corners available this offseason.

    Neither one made the pro bowl, but Samuels had 10 picks this season.

    You don't hear a whole lot about Samuels, but he is a playmaker and looked really good today. He also doesn't seem to always keep saying he is the best in the league.

    I wonder if the Bills could make a nice offer to clements, then after he rejects it, offer it to Samuels? Do it quick and try to steal him.

    What do you guys think? Who is better? I like both, but Clements seems to want more money.
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  • jdbillsfan
    Registered User
    • Oct 2002
    • 1071
    #2
    Re: Samuels vs Clements?

    Doing well in the playoffs will certainly help Samuels marketability.

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    • BILLSROCK1212
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      • Mar 2006
      • 5269
      #3
      Re: Samuels vs Clements?

      Samuels isnt better but isnt much worse so id take him becuase he will come for less money that way we can spend money on another big name FA

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      • Devin
        The Octagon
        • Apr 2003
        • 23878
        #4
        Re: Samuels vs Clements?

        not much less. Samuels is going to get a pretty big payday himself.
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        • T-Long
          Circling the Wagons since 1982.
          • Sep 2003
          • 3848
          #5
          Re: Samuels vs Clements?

          Samuels is a better corner for INT, but Clements is a better overall corner (tackling, coverage combined)

          Both are in for big pay days. Hopefully we can lock up one of them. I thought we would be ok by losing Clements with getting Youboty more time, but that obviously didn't happen this year for a number of reasons.

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          • Lexwhat
            Registered User
            • Feb 2005
            • 2926
            #6
            Re: Samuels vs Clements?

            SAMUEL

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            • Night Train
              Retired - On Several Levels
              • Jul 2005
              • 33117
              #7
              Re: Samuels vs Clements?

              Samuel made himself a boatload of $$ yesterday. ..which probably means we can't afford him.
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              • RockStar36
                Dude's Little Ignorant Crony
                • Sep 2004
                • 24761
                #8
                Re: Samuels vs Clements?

                I still think Clements is better. He doesn't get as many interceptions because he doesn't get thrown at as often.

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                • jamze132
                  Don’t hate…
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 29360
                  #9
                  Re: Samuels vs Clements?

                  Why wouldn't the Pats just slap the franchise tag on Samuels? They surely don't want to lose him, and who's to say the won't give them the "hometown discount"? I'm sure he likes winning, and he can do a lot of that in NE given the weanesses in the divsion.

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                  • RockStar36
                    Dude's Little Ignorant Crony
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 24761
                    #10
                    Re: Samuels vs Clements?

                    If he wants the money I doubt NE will give it to him. Look at prior examples of this.

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                    • Ickybaluky
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 8884
                      #11
                      Re: Samuels vs Clements?

                      Originally posted by jamze132
                      Why wouldn't the Pats just slap the franchise tag on Samuels? They surely don't want to lose him, and who's to say the won't give them the "hometown discount"? I'm sure he likes winning, and he can do a lot of that in NE given the weanesses in the divsion.
                      Samuel has stated he wants to stay in NE because he loves his teammates, but he isn't going to take any discount. He isn't happy with the Pats offers so far, and has stated so.

                      I would think they will consider him as a Franchise candidate. Dan Graham may get considered for a franchise tag, as he is a much more important player than people realize, even if he doesn't catch a lot of passes.
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                      • Ickybaluky
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 8884
                        #12
                        Re: Samuels vs Clements?

                        Originally posted by RockStar36
                        If he wants the money I doubt NE will give it to him. Look at prior examples of this.
                        This is a misconception. The Pats are willing to pay a player what they think his value is, even if they deem him worth being among the highest paid at their positions (like Brady and Seymour). If the Pats don't pay Samuel top dollar, it is because they feel he isn't worth it or what the tag will pay him.

                        However, if they don't think the player is worth what he can get on the open market, they are willing to walk away and get a comp picks the following year.

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                        • BillsNick
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 3898
                          #13
                          Re: Samuels vs Clements?

                          I'd rather have Samuel, because he has dreads coming out of the back of his helmet, and we need someone that has those.
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                          • Saratoga Slim
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 4154
                            #14
                            Re: Samuels vs Clements?

                            Originally posted by BillsNick
                            I'd rather have Samuel, because he has dreads coming out of the back of his helmet, and we need someone that has those.
                            You have a point. The front office's failure to maintain at least one dreadlocked player on the roster is likely a primary factor in the league-wide perception of Buffalo as a behind the times franchise. It may very well be why we've had trouble signing free agents in the past several years. I'd pay Samuel double his market value based on this attribute alone.
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                            • BillsNick
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 3898
                              #15
                              Re: Samuels vs Clements?

                              Originally posted by Saratoga Slim
                              You have a point. The front office's failure to maintain at least one dreadlocked player on the roster is likely a primary factor in the league-wide perception of Buffalo as a behind the times franchise. It may very well be why we've had trouble signing free agents in the past several years. I'd pay Samuel double his market value based on this attribute alone.
                              Agreed. Times have changed, and we need to have players that have lots of dreads.

                              Atleast $20 million a year.

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