First signs that NFL players are using Human Growth Hormone???

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  • Ebenezer
    Give me a minute...
    • Jul 2002
    • 73867

    First signs that NFL players are using Human Growth Hormone???

    OK, let's file this one under the "where there's smoke..." catagory but....

    Why would Gene Upshaw be so against this type of testing if there wasn't a significant number of players using HGH???

    Upshaw tells newspaper he doubts WADA's credibility

    If the World Anti-Doping Agency produces blood-test kits for HGH, NFL Players Association executive director Gene Upshaw told The Charlotte Observer he doesn't want to see them used in the league.

    "I have no confidence in WADA or their kits," Upshaw told the Observer in an e-mail. "I have my doubts about WADA and their history. I am not willing to accept them as an authority on this.

    "The league may have some interest, but it will not be done without approval of the players."

    WADA science director Dr. Olivier Rabin told the newspaper that WADA will release the commercial blood-testing kits before the end of the year.

    The NFL currently only uses urine tests, which can't detect HGH, but The Observer reported that NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said the league is "open to considering" the blood-testing kits if WADA made them available.

    WADA president Dick Pound defended the tests.

    "I don't know where he's coming from," Pound said of Upshaw in a telephone interview with The Observer. "The HGH test is good. The science is good. It makes it look like he doesn't want blood testing.


    If the World Anti-Doping Agency produces blood test kits for HGH, Players Association executive director Gene Upshaw told The Charlotte Observer he doesn't want to see them used in the NFL.




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  • YardRat
    Well, lookie here...
    • Dec 2004
    • 86293

    #2
    Re: First signs that NFL players are using Human Growth Hormone???

    He's the union president. He gets paid to attempt to ensure nothing gets done without the members input, or in a manner that is ultimately non-damaging or beneficial to them.
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    • jmb1099
      Registered User
      • Sep 2004
      • 3354

      #3
      Re: First signs that NFL players are using Human Growth Hormone???

      You might be on to something. The more resistance, the more is looks plausible.
      Originally posted by Ebenezer
      OK, let's file this one under the "where there's smoke..." catagory but....

      Why would Gene Upshaw be so against this type of testing if there wasn't a significant number of players using HGH???

      Upshaw tells newspaper he doubts WADA's credibility

      If the World Anti-Doping Agency produces blood-test kits for HGH, NFL Players Association executive director Gene Upshaw told The Charlotte Observer he doesn't want to see them used in the league.

      "I have no confidence in WADA or their kits," Upshaw told the Observer in an e-mail. "I have my doubts about WADA and their history. I am not willing to accept them as an authority on this.

      "The league may have some interest, but it will not be done without approval of the players."

      WADA science director Dr. Olivier Rabin told the newspaper that WADA will release the commercial blood-testing kits before the end of the year.

      The NFL currently only uses urine tests, which can't detect HGH, but The Observer reported that NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said the league is "open to considering" the blood-testing kits if WADA made them available.

      WADA president Dick Pound defended the tests.

      "I don't know where he's coming from," Pound said of Upshaw in a telephone interview with The Observer. "The HGH test is good. The science is good. It makes it look like he doesn't want blood testing.


      http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2738172

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      • Dr. Lecter
        Zero for Zero!
        • Mar 2003
        • 67946

        #4
        Re: First signs that NFL players are using Human Growth Hormone???

        Well duh.

        Of course they are on HGH. It acts similar to steroids and is not tested for.
        Originally posted by mysticsoto
        Lecter is right in everything he said.

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        • Ebenezer
          Give me a minute...
          • Jul 2002
          • 73867

          #5
          Re: First signs that NFL players are using Human Growth Hormone???

          Well, to be fair urine tests do not detect HGH...it would need a blood test.




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          • MikeInRoch
            Registered User
            • Sep 2003
            • 10446

            #6
            Re: First signs that NFL players are using Human Growth Hormone???

            Did anyone see "Outside the Lines" on ESPN this morning? They talked a great deal about HGH. Specifically, it seems that athletes that get head injuries (in both football and boxing) have a very high rate of damaging one of the glands in the brain that controls HGH production - and those athletes have much, much lower than normal HGH levels. So the debate is - should those players be allowed to get treatments to get up to 'normal' levels?
            "'Clean up your room.', 'Stand up straight.', 'Pick up your feet.', 'Take it like a man.', 'Be nice to your sister.', 'Don't mix beer and wine, ever.'. Oh yeah, 'Don't drive on the railroad track.'"

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            • Ebenezer
              Give me a minute...
              • Jul 2002
              • 73867

              #7
              Re: First signs that NFL players are using Human Growth Hormone???

              Originally posted by MikeInRoch
              Did anyone see "Outside the Lines" on ESPN this morning? They talked a great deal about HGH. Specifically, it seems that athletes that get head injuries (in both football and boxing) have a very high rate of damaging one of the glands in the brain that controls HGH production - and those athletes have much, much lower than normal HGH levels. So the debate is - should those players be allowed to get treatments to get up to 'normal' levels?
              I didn't see that but it is interesting...I wonder...growth hormone is made in the anterior lobe of the pituitary...as are thyroid stimulating hormone, the gonadotropins (those hormones that cause the ovaries and testes to mature) and ACTH (regulates repsonse to stress). I wonder if there is a decrease in the amounts of these other hormones...




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              • MikeInRoch
                Registered User
                • Sep 2003
                • 10446

                #8
                Re: First signs that NFL players are using Human Growth Hormone???

                There is an article in the latest ESPN the Magazine about it as well. It's probably still on the news stands...
                "'Clean up your room.', 'Stand up straight.', 'Pick up your feet.', 'Take it like a man.', 'Be nice to your sister.', 'Don't mix beer and wine, ever.'. Oh yeah, 'Don't drive on the railroad track.'"

                "Eh, Phil. That's one I happen to agree with."

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                • TigerJ
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 22575

                  #9
                  Re: First signs that NFL players are using Human Growth Hormone???

                  Originally posted by YardRat
                  He's the union president. He gets paid to attempt to ensure nothing gets done without the members input, or in a manner that is ultimately non-damaging or beneficial to them.
                  More than that, he's paid to be an obstructionist when it comes to anything that would require players to be more accountable.
                  I've made up my mind. Don't confuse me with the facts.

                  I'm the most reasonable poster here. If you don't agree, I'll be forced to have a hissy fit.

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