2007 Bills

[Devin]

Offense:
OT: Jason Peters
OG: Mike Gandy
C: Melvin Fowler
OG: Aaron Merz
OT: Terrence Pennington
TE: Daniel Graham (FA)
WR: Lee Evans
WR: Peerless Price
RB: Willis McGahee
FB: *Damion Shelton/Brian Leonard
QB: J.P Losman

Defense:
DE: Aaron Schobel
DT: Larry Triplett/McCargo
DT: Kyle Williams/Hargrove
DE: Jamaal Anderson (R)
OLB: Lance Briggs (FA)
ILB: Angelo Crowell
OLB: Takeo Spikes
CB: Nick Harper (FA)
CB: Terrence McGee
SS: Donte Whitner
FS: Ko Simpson

Not likely of course, but looks good to me :jam:

If he is there I would draft Branch instead.

Obviously still a few holes I would have liked to upgrade #2 WR and DT, but hey ya cant do it all in one season. I still believe Merz is gonna be a hell of an OG. I dont believe we will have a shot at either Samuel or Clements, anyone we sign at CB will simply be a 1-2 year deal imo.

I thought about Michael Bush at RB, while that wouldnt dissapoint me I think a RB can easily be had via FA or draft next season. Willis plays out his contract. Only way we have a new RB is if we can get decent value for Willis via trade.

I also dont believe we will make a run at any of the 2-3 big OG's. Signing Briggs and a replacement for Clements may make that difficult. A veteran for a year or two is entirley possible.

I think TKO wont be up to 04 speed, but he will be far better then 06. Briggs-Crowell-TKO. Nasty.

We could draft anyone of about 5-6 guys right now and id be happy. Anderson gives us a beast opposite schobel, hes solid against the run as well. If Branch is there hed be the pick instead.

* was really on the fence about this. Leonard was an absolute bruiser for Rutgers. Kind of in the Chris Cooley mold only about 15 pounds smaller. Could stand to put on a few pounds to be effective at FB. There isnt a terribly deep market at FB. Leonard would be a better offensive weapon then blocker, however he is more then capable. Plus he likely could be had in the 3rd or maybe even 4th.

This is a very young team.

[DraftBoy]

Offense:
OT: Jason Peters
OG: Mike Gandy
C: Melvin Fowler
OG: Aaron Merz
OT: Terrence Pennington
TE: Daniel Graham (FA)
WR: Lee Evans
WR: Peerless Price
RB: Willis McGahee
FB: *Damion Shelton/Brian Leonard
QB: J.P Losman

Defense:
DE: Aaron Schobel
DT: Larry Triplett
DT: Kyle Williams
DE: Jamaal Anderson (R)
OLB: Lance Briggs (FA)
ILB: Angelo Crowell
OLB: Takeo Spikes
CB: Nick Harper (FA)
CB: Terrence McGee
SS: Donte Whitner
FS: Ko Simpson

Like not of course, but looks good to me :jam:

If he is there I would draft Branch instead.

Obviously still a few holes I would have liked to upgrade #2 WR and DT, but hey ya cant do it all in one season. I still believe Merz is gonna be a hell of an OG. I dont believe we will have a shot at either Samuel or Clements, anyone we sign at CB will simply be a 1-2 year deal imo.

I thought about Michael Bush at RB, while that wouldnt dissapoint me I think a RB can easily be had via FA or draft next season. Willis plays out his contract. Only way we have a new RB is if we can get decent value for Willis via trade.

I think TKO wont be up to 04 speed, but he will be far better then 06. Briggs-Crowell-TKO. Nasty.

We could draft anyone of about 5-6 guys right now and id be happy. Anderson gives us a beast opposite schobel, hes solid against the run as well. If Branch is there hed be the pick instead.

* was really on the fence about this. Leonard was an absolute bruiser for Rutgers. Kind of in the Chris Cooley mold only about 15 pounds smaller. Could stand to put on a few pounds to be effective at FB. There isnt a terribly deep market at FB. Leonard would be a better offensive weapon then blocker, however he is more then capable. Plus he likely could be had in the 3rd or maybe even 4th.

This is a very young team.


An Anderson convert! That makes two of us! :respect:

[Devin]

Yeah im coming around lol. Forgot to add McCargo/Hargrove in.

[ParanoidAndroid]

No upgrade at RG? Anderson, Briggs and Harper are pretty nice, though.

[DraftBoy]

No upgrade at RG? Anderson, Briggs and Harper are pretty nice, though.


I could see Merz take over and say we take Mike Jones in round 4 or 5.

[YardRat]

I think that's pretty reasonable, and do-able, especially with Clements and Fletch leaving and not eating into the cap.

[Devin]

Yeah I was trying to be somewhat realistic, although until FA starts no telling what people will get paid.

I dont think Clements/Samuel are options. Harper may not be either for all I know, but a replacement is needed and I prefer it not be a rookie. Neither Thomas or Youboty are options yet.

I dont think the top 2-3 OG's are going to be here, although bringing in an older veteran for a season or two is certainly an option. However I really think Merz will be the guy at some point.

Yes we need more help but as I said before, we simply arent goign to upgrade every single position we need help at.

[DraftBoy]

we sure Harper is a FA? According to this list he isnt;
http://www.theredzone.org/2007/freeagents/showposition.asp?Position=CB

[ParanoidAndroid]

Travis Fisher and Phillip Buchanon are two CB's currently playing in (or have recently been playing in) a Tampa-2 defense. Neither has done anything special as of late and Fisher has struggled. Fisher still has time to regain his rookie and sophomore form, and Buchanon just needs to find a home that isn't crumbling like he suffered in Oakland.

I typed in redzone.com (instead of .org) in my browser and much to my surprise....

[chubluv]

Whats the deal with Duke Preston? I thought he was playing well at RG. yet I dont hear anyone talk much about him.

[OpIv37]

not good enough unless you add a pair of DT's.

[jdbillsfan]

Doesn't seem like Anderson will be available at 12. Never know I guess....

[Devin]

Didnt seem like Lienart would be there at 10 last year, much less Bush at 2.

Anything can happen draft day.

[gr8slayer]

Merz is a beast for a run blocker, I want to see more of him.

[gr8slayer]

Daniel Graham would be great but were stuck with Royal for a couple more years.

[kernowboy]

QB Losman<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
WR Evans<o:p></o:p>
WR Calico<o:p></o:p>
LT Peters<o:p></o:p>
LG Gandy<o:p></o:p>
C Fowler<o:p></o:p>
RG Dielman<o:p></o:p>
RT Pennington<o:p></o:p>
TE Royal<o:p></o:p>
RB McGahee<o:p></o:p>
FB Cieslak<o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
LE Kerney<o:p></o:p>
DT Tripplett<o:p></o:p>
NT Starks (traded for a R2 – he’s a RFA)<o:p></o:p>
RE Schobel<o:p></o:p>
SLB Posluzny<o:p></o:p>
MLB Crowell<o:p></o:p>
WLB Ellison<o:p></o:p>
RCB Youboty<o:p></o:p>
LCB McGee<o:p></o:p>
FS Simpson<o:p></o:p>
SS Whitner<o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
I see us retaining McGahee to run down his contract. I like Merz but see long term as a LG with <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:place>Preston</st1:place> used as a 6<SUP>th</SUP> man. I’d like Graham but only if we go to a 2 TE set. The wildcard selection might be bringing in a <st1:City><st1:place>UFA</st1:place></st1:City> like Calico or Charles Rogers. They are cheap but with upside. I can see <st1:City><st1:place>Anderson</st1:place></st1:City> going to <st1:City><st1:place>Atlanta</st1:place></st1:City> making Kerney available and he’s Marv’s kind of guy as is Posluzny. We might also see if Starks is available … if the cost isn’t too high I’d consider giving up a Round2 for him<o:p></o:p>

[Forward_Lateral]

I'd rather see the team go to a 2 TE, single back look next year. The fullback is almost useless on this team.

[jamze132]

I would love to get Briggs, especially if we don't sign Clements. But I ask myself, why in the hell would Chicago not tag him?


And if we do lose Clements to free agancy, what kind of compensation pick would we get and would it be for this year or next?

[kernowboy]

I would love to get Briggs, especially if we don't sign Clements. But I ask myself, why in the hell would Chicago not tag him?


And if we do lose Clements to free agancy, what kind of compensation pick would we get and would it be for this year or next?

I agree re: Briggs .. must teams are sufficiently under the cap that they could resign must players they want or will tag if the figures get silly.

If we got a compensatory pick it depends on our FA loses compared to our FA signings. If we don't make too many signings, the possible losses of both Fletcher and Clements could result in a R3 in 2008

[HHURRICANE]

I'd rather see the team go to a 2 TE, single back look next year. The fullback is almost useless on this team.

This is a great post.

I had Adrian Peterson from Chicago as a possible hybrid while eliminating the FB position compltetly.

[HHURRICANE]

QB Losman<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
WR Evans<o:p></o:p>
WR Calico<o:p></o:p>
LT Peters<o:p></o:p>
LG Gandy<o:p></o:p>
C Fowler<o:p></o:p>
RG Dielman<o:p></o:p>
RT Pennington<o:p></o:p>
TE Royal<o:p></o:p>
RB McGahee<o:p></o:p>
FB Cieslak<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
LE Kerney<o:p></o:p>
DT Tripplett<o:p></o:p>
NT Starks (traded for a R2 – he’s a RFA)<o:p></o:p>
RE Schobel<o:p></o:p>
SLB Posluzny<o:p></o:p>
MLB Crowell<o:p></o:p>
WLB Ellison<o:p></o:p>
RCB Youboty<o:p></o:p>
LCB McGee<o:p></o:p>
FS Simpson<o:p></o:p>
SS Whitner<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
I see us retaining McGahee to run down his contract. I like Merz but see long term as a LG with <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:place>Preston</st1:place> used as a 6<SUP>th</SUP> man. I’d like Graham but only if we go to a 2 TE set. The wildcard selection might be bringing in a <st1:City><st1:place>UFA</st1:place></st1:City> like Calico or Charles Rogers. They are cheap but with upside. I can see <st1:City><st1:place>Anderson</st1:place></st1:City> going to <st1:City><st1:place>Atlanta</st1:place></st1:City> making Kerney available and he’s Marv’s kind of guy as is Posluzny. We might also see if Starks is available … if the cost isn’t too high I’d consider giving up a Round2 for him<o:p></o:p>


I like this one alot better! Cieslak makes perfect sense as I just complimented Forward Lateral for the same point. If Poslusny is their than we will take him instead of a RB. Dielman at RG is wasy more plausible than Steinbach. If we got Kerney than I would start Youboty and not look for a big name because our Pass rush would be tons better.

Great post and possible. Getting Kerney is a big stretch but maybe Tripplett could convince him that this is the place to be. Where would you rather be than right here right now?

[jamze132]

I agree re: Briggs .. must teams are sufficiently under the cap that they could resign must players they want or will tag if the figures get silly.

If we got a compensatory pick it depends on our FA loses compared to our FA signings. If we don't make too many signings, the possible losses of both Fletcher and Clements could result in a R3 in 2008
That's it??? Well then we might as well just go out and sign as many FA who can hold a starter slot on our team. I thought the compensation system was nicer than that. It sure as hell is in baseball.

[Ickybaluky]

WR Calico

If you want to sign Tyrone Calico to take a flyer on him, that's fine. You can get him for the minimum. However, you want him to start?

Do you realize the guy was cut and was out of the NFL last season?

[kernowboy]

If you want to sign Tyrone Calico to take a flyer on him, that's fine. You can get him for the minimum. However, you want him to start?

Do you realize the guy was cut and was out of the NFL last season?

A wildcard pick

Him or Rogers ... both have speed and size, are in the last chance saloon, I am putting them as a starter assuming they can turn it around. Otherwise we go back to Price or Reed and draft in the first two rounds of 2008 along with a RB

[Ickybaluky]

A wildcard pick

Him or Rogers ... both have speed and size, are in the last chance saloon, I am putting them as a starter assuming they can turn it around. Otherwise we go back to Price or Reed and draft in the first two rounds of 2008 along with a RB

I get what you are saying, but Calico will never see his potential due to injuries. He was raw to begin with, and he is done.

Rogers better fits your profile if he gets his act together, but he doesn't exactly fit into Marv Levy's mandate of bringing in character guys.

Granted, FA is thin at WR, but one guy I think is intriguing in Kelley Washington of Cincinnati. He was stuck behind some talented guys with the Bengals, so he didn't get to play as much. He was IR'ed last year with a hamstring injury.

However, he is a big, possession guy with some talent. He is a very good special teams player, and has a reputation as a team-first guy who is good in the lockerroom. He will be a value signing with some upside.

[kernowboy]

Washingto was going to be my No3 suggestion. I'm not sure that Jarrett is actually much better than Rogers or Calico or Washington

[The King]

I wouldnt plan to see Graham either seems he is NE's number 1 priority according the the press around here.

[jdbillsfan]

QB Losman<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
WR Evans<o:p></o:p>
WR Calico<o:p></o:p>
LT Peters<o:p></o:p>
LG Gandy<o:p></o:p>
C Fowler<o:p></o:p>
RG Dielman<o:p></o:p>
RT Pennington<o:p></o:p>
TE Royal<o:p></o:p>
RB McGahee<o:p></o:p>
FB Cieslak<o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
LE Kerney<o:p></o:p>
DT Tripplett<o:p></o:p>
NT Starks (traded for a R2 – he’s a RFA)<o:p></o:p>
RE Schobel<o:p></o:p>
SLB Posluzny<o:p></o:p>
MLB Crowell<o:p></o:p>
WLB Ellison<o:p></o:p>
RCB Youboty<o:p></o:p>
LCB McGee<o:p></o:p>
FS Simpson<o:p></o:p>
SS Whitner<o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
I see us retaining McGahee to run down his contract. I like Merz but see long term as a LG with <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:place>Preston</st1:place> used as a 6<SUP>th</SUP> man. I’d like Graham but only if we go to a 2 TE set. The wildcard selection might be bringing in a <st1:City><st1:place>UFA</st1:place></st1:City> like Calico or Charles Rogers. They are cheap but with upside. I can see <st1:City><st1:place>Anderson</st1:place></st1:City> going to <st1:City><st1:place>Atlanta</st1:place></st1:City> making Kerney available and he’s Marv’s kind of guy as is Posluzny. We might also see if Starks is available … if the cost isn’t too high I’d consider giving up a Round2 for him<o:p></o:p>

I thought Starks had some legal problems? Not sure about that guy. Cullen Jenkins from Green Bay would be my choice.

[jdbillsfan]

Washingto was going to be my No3 suggestion. I'm not sure that Jarrett is actually much better than Rogers or Calico or Washington

I think you already know what you are going to get from those 3. Their ceiling doesn't seem very high. Injury issues, under performing, etc.

At least with Jarrett, he has a chance to be something more.

[ShadowHawk7]

At DT, I'd take Robaire Smith, Hollis Thomas (very similar to Pat Williams), or that guy from the Bengals.

[Bert102176]

why Calico they can find a better wr in the draft

[GarnOFreak]

we're more than likely to repeat last year's trend of giving out slightly higher than market value for average players who should be backing up on other teams, and give them a chance to prove that they can play(without giving them a big check....i.e. like the WR contracts from last year....perfect example)

Here are a couple of ideas of middle men we might take a look at:

CB Ricky Manning Jr. Bears- Fewell should have an easy time teaching him the defensive scheme and I would equate him to slightly above Kiwaukee Thomas skill level-wise. (averaging 3.5 INTs and FF each year not bad)He's 26, so he still has a decent length contract ahead of him, he just needs to stay out of Denny's.

DE Cory Redding Lions- Jauron was his DC in Detroit, so far he seems like our typical high motor DE opposite Schobel if we don't get Kelsay back for some reason. The light seemed to go on with 8 sacks this year(only has 10 for his 4 year career) and 2FF. Age 26, still young enough to play a full contract easily.

LB Boss Bailey Lions- He's a fast LB(4.58), although undersized at 235lbs(yes we already have that with Ellison), but he's not too old(27) and might be decently priced. Again, Jauron would at least have some insight to his character and ability, like Redding above.

LG Rick DeMulling Lions (not trying to take the whole team here, they just have some middle-level FAs this year). A couple years ago we considered this guy and weren't generally unhappy as fans with the idea of adding the (then) Colts lineman to the team. I haven't heard rave reviews about his blocking lately, but is a possible starter, especially if we don't re-sign Gandy.

RT Max Starks Steelers starting Right Tackle, RFA was a third round pick, if he's not given a R1 tender, then I say go for it. Weight is a concern (up to 380lbs in college...now at 337lbs). Steelers may not let him go, but he is a solid right side guy (I would put him at Guard if he'll play there...which after being a starting tackle, is gonna be hard to do).

RB Michael Turner Chargers RFA (5th rounder if he's not given a high tender) looked good spelling LT, career average is above 5 yards a carry. Depends on the situation with Willis, but a young(24) back with not a lot of miles on him who has speed and doubles as a KR (26.5 yards avg last season)... If McGee is CB1 we might not want him getting killed on kickoffs. Cheaper option might be Josh Scobey(but he would fill a spot as RB3 more than likely if picked up)

Whew, that was long. hehe food for thought though I hopw we do well in the off-season, Go Bills!

[Devin]

I believe Manning signed a 5 year deal with the bears.

I think Turner is a RFA, im sure the Chargers dont let him go anywhere. However id love to have him here, I think hes a legit starter.

[BILLSROCK1212]

Travis Fisher and Phillip Buchanon are two CB's currently playing in (or have recently been playing in) a Tampa-2 defense. Neither has done anything special as of late and Fisher has struggled. Fisher still has time to regain his rookie and sophomore form, and Buchanon just needs to find a home that isn't crumbling like he suffered in Oakland.

I typed in redzone.com (instead of .org) in my browser and much to my surprise....
lol....yes that has happened to me many times before

[BILLSROCK1212]

I think you already know what you are going to get from those 3. Their ceiling doesn't seem very high. Injury issues, under performing, etc.

At least with Jarrett, he has a chance to be something more.with the way Dwayne Bowe has been playing at the Senior Bowl Jarrett may slip to round 2

[BillsFever21]

I agree re: Briggs .. must teams are sufficiently under the cap that they could resign must players they want or will tag if the figures get silly.

If we got a compensatory pick it depends on our FA loses compared to our FA signings. If we don't make too many signings, the possible losses of both Fletcher and Clements could result in a R3 in 2008

Everyone but us could resign players. We're only 40 million under.

[Don't Panic]

I'd rather see the team go to a 2 TE, single back look next year. The fullback is almost useless on this team.

He's not useless if the O line can't protect Losman. If there is no change in our pass blocking, we still need a FB.