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HHURRICANE
01-29-2007, 09:39 PM
Every year we speculate on who the Bills will take and every year we are dead wrong. So lets be smart and look at the players that we won't take and decide why we will. Here's mine at #12:

Adam Carriker
DE (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/position?id=31&action=login&appRedirect=http%3A%2F%2Finsider.espn.go.com%2Fnfldraft%2Fdraft%2Ftracker%2Fposition%3Fid%3D31) | (6'6http://espn-ak.starwave.com/i/nfl/trans/1_8.gif", 290, 4.85) | NEBRASKA (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/school?id=2319&action=login&appRedirect=http%3A%2F%2Finsider.espn.go.com%2Fnfldraft%2Fdraft%2Ftracker%2Fschool%3Fid%3D2319)


Carriker was redshirted in 2002. He played in nine games in 2003, missed three games with an ankle injury, and finished the year with three total tackles, one tackle for loss, and one sack. In 2004, he appeared in 10 games (eight starts), missed more time with an ankle injury, and recorded 36 total tackles, seven tackles for loss, and three sacks for the season. Carriker then started all 12 games in 2005 at "base" defensive end, made 43 total tackles, 17 tackles for loss, 9.5 sacks, and forced one fumble earning First Team All-Big 12 recognition from the Associated Press. Carriker started all 14 games in 2006 and finished with 52 total tackles, 16 tackles for loss, seven sacks, one interception and one blocked kick earning Associated Press All-Big 12 First Team honors for the second consecutive year.

TigerJ
01-29-2007, 09:52 PM
I would say he's certainly a possibility for the Bills. He's kind of a poor man's Jamaal Anderson. He has similar qualities except he times slower in the 40 Anderson is more likely to be gone by the time the Bills pick. Carriker probably will still be available. I might also compare him to the Bills Ryan Denney except Carriker really seems to have a killer instinct while Denny is too much of a nice boy. I wouldn't be surprised if Carriker were able to put on more weight and be effective at DT. I don't think he's the most likelty pick for the Bills, but if some of the guys who fill more specific needs are gone or Buffalo doesn't think those who remain are a good value, they could get Carriker who probably is a good value at #12 considering the senior bowl week he had.

camelcowboy
01-29-2007, 09:56 PM
Lynch is my pick at twelve

LtFinFan66
01-29-2007, 11:14 PM
Every year we speculate on who the Bills will take and every year we are dead wrong. So lets be smart and look at the players that we won't take and decide why we will. Here's mine at #12:

Adam Carriker
DE (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/position?id=31&action=login&appRedirect=http%3A%2F%2Finsider.espn.go.com%2Fnfldraft%2Fdraft%2Ftracker%2Fposition%3Fid%3D31) | (6'6http://espn-ak.starwave.com/i/nfl/trans/1_8.gif", 290, 4.85) | NEBRASKA (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/school?id=2319&action=login&appRedirect=http%3A%2F%2Finsider.espn.go.com%2Fnfldraft%2Fdraft%2Ftracker%2Fschool%3Fid%3D2319)


Carriker was redshirted in 2002. He played in nine games in 2003, missed three games with an ankle injury, and finished the year with three total tackles, one tackle for loss, and one sack. In 2004, he appeared in 10 games (eight starts), missed more time with an ankle injury, and recorded 36 total tackles, seven tackles for loss, and three sacks for the season. Carriker then started all 12 games in 2005 at "base" defensive end, made 43 total tackles, 17 tackles for loss, 9.5 sacks, and forced one fumble earning First Team All-Big 12 recognition from the Associated Press. Carriker started all 14 games in 2006 and finished with 52 total tackles, 16 tackles for loss, seven sacks, one interception and one blocked kick earning Associated Press All-Big 12 First Team honors for the second consecutive year.He had a real nice Senior Bowl!

Tatonka
01-29-2007, 11:28 PM
i am going with ross, cb from texas.. he is my dark horse pick.

Captain Obvious
01-29-2007, 11:52 PM
Lawrence Timmons LB Florida St.

jamze132
01-30-2007, 03:46 AM
I was thinking Carriker earlier this week, I just didn't want to admit it!

Night Train
01-30-2007, 04:29 AM
I was thinking Carriker earlier this week, I just didn't want to admit it!

I watched the Senior Bowl practices and he dominated. Uber strong and gets off his blocks to stop the run. Seems to have some good pass rush ability. Quick and uses his arms well to leverage and get in on the QB. The game film they showed confirmed his blue chip ability. Gets his hands up. Never takes a play off. Reportedly very smart.

He would be a good pick. Absolutely.

Many of these players aren't dark horses at all to the scouts. Just the media hype machine.

X-Era
01-30-2007, 06:05 AM
Every year we speculate on who the Bills will take and every year we are dead wrong. So lets be smart and look at the players that we won't take and decide why we will. Here's mine at #12:

Adam Carriker
DE (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/position?id=31&action=login&appRedirect=http%3A%2F%2Finsider.espn.go.com%2Fnfldraft%2Fdraft%2Ftracker%2Fposition%3Fid%3D31) | (6'6http://espn-ak.starwave.com/i/nfl/trans/1_8.gif", 290, 4.85) | NEBRASKA (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/school?id=2319&action=login&appRedirect=http%3A%2F%2Finsider.espn.go.com%2Fnfldraft%2Fdraft%2Ftracker%2Fschool%3Fid%3D2319)


Carriker was redshirted in 2002. He played in nine games in 2003, missed three games with an ankle injury, and finished the year with three total tackles, one tackle for loss, and one sack. In 2004, he appeared in 10 games (eight starts), missed more time with an ankle injury, and recorded 36 total tackles, seven tackles for loss, and three sacks for the season. Carriker then started all 12 games in 2005 at "base" defensive end, made 43 total tackles, 17 tackles for loss, 9.5 sacks, and forced one fumble earning First Team All-Big 12 recognition from the Associated Press. Carriker started all 14 games in 2006 and finished with 52 total tackles, 16 tackles for loss, seven sacks, one interception and one blocked kick earning Associated Press All-Big 12 First Team honors for the second consecutive year.

Mine is Lynch as well. However, I think when all is said and done, we may pick Tank Tyler.

RedEyE
01-30-2007, 06:49 AM
Since I'm one of the few believing the Bills will take a CB with their first pick, my "shot it the dark pick" is WR Dwayne Jarret.

With Price, Reed, Davis, and Parrish all undersized, their main passing routes have all been underneath coverage. Evans, who has been the obvious man downfield, Jarrett would be a great addition opposite field in relieving downfield pressure.

Being that the Bills already have a slew of receivers (not mentioned above: Wilson, and Aiken), the one thing that makes the least amount of sense would be the Bills taking a WR in the 1st round of the draft. Which means that it will most likely happen.

DraftBoy
01-30-2007, 07:05 AM
DE Gaines Adams

Jamaal Anderson crazy climb continues and Adams has a bad combine

Tatonka
01-30-2007, 07:26 AM
i hope our second round pick is bush from louisville.

:pray:

Ickybaluky
01-30-2007, 07:33 AM
Tony Hunt, RB, Penn State

Big North-South runner who does a decent job catching the ball, especially for a big back. The kid is a load and has been very productive in the Big 10. The big question on him is his speed, and he obviously isn't as explosive as a some of the top runners, but he is a pretty polished player who can come in and contribute. May be a RB/FB tweener, but would be a good power back in the right system.

HHURRICANE
01-30-2007, 07:46 AM
i am going with ross, cb from texas.. he is my dark horse pick.

As much as this pick scares me it's probably more likely than what we have been seeing other places.

eyedog
01-30-2007, 08:22 AM
Good call on Carriker. This guy has Marv written all over him.

Talk0fNewYork
01-30-2007, 08:23 AM
Lynch is my pick at twelve
Yeah Boi!

gr8slayer
01-30-2007, 09:28 AM
i am going with ross, cb from texas.. he is my dark horse pick.Players from Texas never really pan out.

jamze132
01-30-2007, 09:33 AM
I watched the Senior Bowl practices and he dominated. Uber strong and gets off his blocks to stop the run. Seems to have some good pass rush ability. Quick and uses his arms well to leverage and get in on the QB. The game film they showed confirmed his blue chip ability. Gets his hands up. Never takes a play off. Reportedly very smart.

He would be a good pick. Absolutely.

Many of these players aren't dark horses at all to the scouts. Just the media hype machine.
I agree. It's kind of hard to pick a dark horse this year.

DaBillzAhDaShiznit
01-30-2007, 09:37 AM
Players from Texas never really pan out.

HUH?!?

Because Mike Williams is a fat slob?

DraftBoy
01-30-2007, 10:51 AM
Players from Texas never really pan out.


Vince Young looks pretty good right now

jdbillsfan
01-30-2007, 10:52 AM
Mine is Daymeion Hughes, the DB from Cal.

alohabillsfan
01-30-2007, 01:10 PM
My dark horse... Reggie Nelson Safety Florida... Marv can't get enough of these guys and Ralph says their cheaper than corners!!!

Night Train
01-30-2007, 01:39 PM
Here's another. I had a thread about a month back saying I didn't want a WR or TE high but after watching Dallas Clark be the difference maker for the Colts over the Pats, I may be open to this guy.
We need another receiving threat, other than Evans. The few times I watched Miller, I saw a bigger Dallas Clark and was impressed. The Sporting News mock draft has the Bills selecting him and it might not be that far fetched. He may indeed be one of the ones.

Zach Miller
TE (http://warroom.sportingnews.com/nfl/draft/2007/rankings/te/), Arizona State (http://javascript<b></b>:ow('/nfl/draft/2007/colleges/arizonastate.html','_blank','scrollbars=yes,width=545,height=350'))

War Room analysis
Strengths: Is athletic. Has quickness off the snap to get behind linebackers and the speed to get down the seam. Runs sharp routes. Uses burst out of cuts to get separation. Has very good hands. Will make tough catches away from his body. Turns upfield quickly after the catch, runs aggressively and gains yards after contact. Is a smart and versatile; can get into various alignments without making mistakes.
Weaknesses: Lacks the brute strength to run block head-up against a
defensive end.
Bottom line: Miller shocked everyone as a freshman and improved every year. He is smart, versatile enough to set up in any position and athletic enough to block inline, in motion and from the fullback assignment. Don’t downgrade him for his lack of brute strength. Miller will be a star and make an immediate impact as a receiver. He will make a ton of receptions, make yards after the catch and be a better blocker than most elite tight ends.

kernowboy
01-30-2007, 01:49 PM
Paul Posluzny, Penn St, OLB or ILB

I know he's well known, but I have a sneaky suspicision he represents everything that Marv looks for in a player - character, intelligence, adaptability, the option to play both inside and out.

Ideally Marv would like to trade down, but in a position of the team where there is a weakness, he may feel that if he trades down he could lose the player so grabs him at No12