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  • Jeff1220
    H to the 12:20
    • Jul 2002
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    McNair in the ProBowl?

    They are reporting on news stations around here that Steve McNair is likely to become the QB for the open Pro Bowl spot. If this is true, it's BS. I really don't think JP necessarily belong sin the ProBowl, but there a several QBs (including JP imo) that should be there before McNair. I'd probably put Pennington, Vince Young, or JP in the game before McNair.

    With Brady golfing, and other ProBowlers opting not to play "due to injury" who do you guys think should be the next in line to represent the AFC?
  • THATHURMANATOR
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 69112

    #2
    Re: McNair in the ProBowl?

    Who cares? The pro bowl is the worst.

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    • The King
      Without me it's just Awe so
      • Jun 2004
      • 42380

      #3
      Re: McNair in the ProBowl?

      McNair had a good season and is certainly more popular than JP. I think he is a good backup choice.
      I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
      "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
      You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
      It was all
      true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
      He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can
      mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.


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      • BAM
        Registered User
        • Sep 2003
        • 33135

        #4
        Re: McNair in the ProBowl?

        Vince Young!

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        • Jeff1220
          H to the 12:20
          • Jul 2002
          • 6137

          #5
          Re: McNair in the ProBowl?

          McNair: TOTAL 468 295 3050 63.0 6.52 16 3.4 12 2.6 87t 14/84 82.5
          Young: TOTAL 357 184 2199 51.5 6.2 12 3.4 13 3.6 53 25/129 66.7 (13 starts/15 games played)
          Pennington: TOTAL 485 313 3352 64.5 6.9 17 3.5 16 3.3 71 30/172 82.6
          JP: TOTAL 429 268 62.5 3051 7.11 83 19 14 47/332 35 10 84.9

          By stats alone, I say it should be :gulp: Pennington.

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          • Carlton Bailey

            #6
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            Losman's a better QB than McNair, Pennington and Young (great runner, poor thrower).

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            • ICE74129
              Legendary Zoner
              • Feb 2005
              • 10796

              #7
              Re: McNair in the ProBowl?

              Originally posted by Jeff1220
              McNair: TOTAL 468 295 3050 63.0 6.52 16 3.4 12 2.6 87t 14/84 82.5
              Young: TOTAL 357 184 2199 51.5 6.2 12 3.4 13 3.6 53 25/129 66.7 (13 starts/15 games played)
              Pennington: TOTAL 485 313 3352 64.5 6.9 17 3.5 16 3.3 71 30/172 82.6
              JP: TOTAL 429 268 62.5 3051 7.11 83 19 14 47/332 35 10 84.9

              By stats alone, I say it should be :gulp: Pennington.
              How do you figure? QB rating says JP

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              • The King
                Without me it's just Awe so
                • Jun 2004
                • 42380

                #8
                Re: McNair in the ProBowl?

                Originally posted by Carlton Bailey
                Losman's a better QB than McNair, Pennington and Young (great runner, poor thrower).
                When JP wins MVP and plays in a super bowl Ill believe that.
                I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
                "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
                You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
                It was all
                true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
                He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can
                mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.


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                • Jeff1220
                  H to the 12:20
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 6137

                  #9
                  Re: McNair in the ProBowl?

                  Originally posted by ICE74129
                  How do you figure? QB rating says JP
                  He has 300 yards more than JP in passing. The difference in their QB ratings is not as significant as the difference in their passing yardage. That's how I figured.
                  My (objective) order for these guys to go to the PB, as much as I'd like it to be JP, would be:

                  1.C. Pennington
                  2.JP Losman
                  3. Young (Passing was so-so, but made huge plays when it counted - w/legs and arm)
                  4. S. McNair

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                  • ICE74129
                    Legendary Zoner
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 10796

                    #10
                    Re: McNair in the ProBowl?

                    Originally posted by Jeff1220
                    He has 300 yards more than JP in passing. The difference in their QB ratings is not as significant as the difference in their passing yardage. That's how I figured.
                    My (objective) order for these guys to go to the PB, as much as I'd like it to be JP, would be:

                    1.C. Pennington
                    2.JP Losman
                    3. Young (Passing was so-so, but made huge plays when it counted - w/legs and arm)
                    4. S. McNair
                    You have got to be kidding me? 300 friggin yards? My God....put the man in the HOF already!

                    300 yards difference over 16 games? Give me a break.

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                    • Jeff1220
                      H to the 12:20
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 6137

                      #11
                      Re: McNair in the ProBowl?

                      Originally posted by ICE74129
                      You have got to be kidding me? 300 friggin yards? My God....put the man in the HOF already!

                      300 yards difference over 16 games? Give me a break.
                      You've got to be kidding me? 2.6 friggin passer rating points? Put the man in the HOF already!

                      2.6 passer rating points over 16 games? Give me a break.

                      It would take JP about another 6 quarters worth of play to make up those 300 yards.

                      ...and Pennington's went to the playoffs this season (and more than once overall)
                      Last edited by Jeff1220; 02-02-2007, 02:11 PM.

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                      • HHURRICANE
                        Registered User
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 15490

                        #12
                        Re: McNair in the ProBowl?

                        Originally posted by Jeff1220
                        They are reporting on news stations around here that Steve McNair is likely to become the QB for the open Pro Bowl spot. If this is true, it's BS. I really don't think JP necessarily belong sin the ProBowl, but there a several QBs (including JP imo) that should be there before McNair. I'd probably put Pennington, Vince Young, or JP in the game before McNair.

                        With Brady golfing, and other ProBowlers opting not to play "due to injury" who do you guys think should be the next in line to represent the AFC?
                        First off, Vince Young's passing numbers are down right horrible. Second, Chad Pennington finished with better numbers and a winning season.

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                        • Jeff1220
                          H to the 12:20
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 6137

                          #13
                          Re: McNair in the ProBowl?

                          Originally posted by HHURRICANE
                          First off, Vince Young's passing numbers are down right horrible. Second, Chad Pennington finished with better numbers and a winning season.
                          Right, see my posts later in this thread about Pennington.

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                          • ICE74129
                            Legendary Zoner
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 10796

                            #14
                            Re: McNair in the ProBowl?

                            Originally posted by Jeff1220
                            You've got to be kidding me? 2.6 friggin passer rating points? Put the man in the HOF already!

                            2.6 passer rating points over 16 games? Give me a break.

                            It would take JP about another 6 quarters worth of play to make up those 300 yards.

                            ...and Pennington's went to the playoffs this season (and more than once overall)
                            Its harder to get more QB rating points than 300 friggin yards. Now compare The JETS TEAM to the Bills TEAM. Night and day

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                            • patmoran2006
                              Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 19840

                              #15
                              Re: McNair in the ProBowl?

                              Pennington or McNair would be the right choice, based partially on numbers and even more because of WINNING.

                              Im down with the whole JP is on the rise thing going on here, I agree with it.. but he was FAR from deserving of a Pro Bowl birth.

                              Pennington, McNair and especially Vince Young should be there before him, and I think even JP would tell you that..

                              Next year maybe its another story.

                              BTW, how much crow should some of the ******s eat who said Vince Young would be a bust, another micheal vick,, blahblahblah.. I even remember one tarded up "frost" fellow poster on here saying he'd stop being a Bills fan if we drafted him and that he was the most overated QB to come out in his lifetime.

                              Young = Winner PLAIN and simple.

                              Lets hope JP becomes like that too.


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