Do caretaker QBs really work?

[Bling]

The QB that the coach keeps the ball out of the hands. The kind that has a good 30% percent of games with less than 20 passes. Like Dilfer. Can teams still get to the Super Bowl with these dud QB's? I don't think so. I think the elite QBs are finally getting to the Super Bowl again.

[Dr. Lecter]

Re: Do caretaker QBs really work?

Get to the Super Bowl? Yes. Look at Grossman.

It is much more than the QB.

[Cntrygal]

Re: Do caretaker QBs really work?

Big Ben - last year.

[Bling]

Re: Do caretaker QBs really work?

Get to the Super Bowl? Yes. Look at Grossman.

It is much more than the QB.

I'm sorry. Do they win Super Bowls? Grossman looks like ****. He's done nothing. Manning has taken over the game. I think the days of Dilfers winning it is over. Brady has three, and I think it's looking like Manning is going to have one.

[Goobylal]

Re: Do caretaker QBs really work?

It was more than Brady. And Manning is getting a lot of help from his defense.

Grossman could just as easily "win" the gam if he didn't suck so bad.

[Bling]

Re: Do caretaker QBs really work?

Big Ben - last year.

I was going to bring him up, but he had 21 passes against Seattle, 29 against Denver, 24 against Indy, and 19 against Cincy. He also took on more responsibility this year. I think they win when Big Ben is safe, but he's not like Rex and Trent where they don't want him to have the ball.

[Bling]

Re: Do caretaker QBs really work?

It was more than Brady. And Manning is getting a lot of help from his defense.

Grossman could just as easily "win" the gam if he didn't suck so bad.

You really think Tom Brady isn't an elite QB? IMO, Brady is a top 3 QB in this league.

[ICE74129]

Re: Do caretaker QBs really work?

Bottom line there comes a point and time when the QB must WIN a game. Grossman isn't that type of QB and it may bite chicago in the butt tonight.

[Cntrygal]

Re: Do caretaker QBs really work?

I don't think this season should factor in with Big Ben - he went to the SB last year.... so that's the season that should be scrutinized. What was his ratios last season?

[Bling]

Re: Do caretaker QBs really work?

Bottom line there comes a point and time when the QB must WIN a game. Grossman isn't that type of QB and it may bite chicago in the butt tonight.

Agreed. If you coach doesn't give you the ball in crunch time, you're never going to be a good QB in this league.

[Goobylal]

Re: Do caretaker QBs really work?

I didn't say that. I said it's more than the QB which is what the good doctor said.

Although I think he did have extraordinary help from his defense and ST's, and had one of the best coaching staffs in NFL history.

[Bling]

Re: Do caretaker QBs really work?

I don't think this season should factor in with Big Ben - he went to the SB last year.... so that's the season that should be scrutinized. What was his ratios last season?

True. I just think Ben comparing Ben to Rex and Trent aren't that fair to him. I think he still has a ton of potential, and will be a good QB in this league.

[Cntrygal]

Re: Do caretaker QBs really work?

True... but that wasn't really your question was it? IMO - Big Ben WAS a "caretaker" in that SB win.

[Bling]

Re: Do caretaker QBs really work?

I didn't say that. I said it's more than the QB which is what the good doctor said.

I don't deny there are so many factors. I just believe that there was a lack of emphasize on QBs after Dilfer won it. It was the Dolphins fans of the world that think we were good enough to make up for the poor QB play just because Dilfer did it. I'm hoping this tells management to finally draft a QB, and quit dicking around.

[Bling]

Re: Do caretaker QBs really work?

True... but that wasn't really your question was it? IMO - Big Ben WAS a "caretaker" in that SB win.

I understand what you're saying, and you're right.