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  • billsburgh
    Registered User
    • Jul 2003
    • 3560

    A coach who gets it

    with so much talk the last year or two concerning drafting of players who fit a particular scheme (defensive tackle), why cant Jauron and his staff be more like this guy. Newly hired Steelers head coach recently discussed drafting players based on whether or not they fit a scheme.
    The Steelers are unlikely to draft certain styles of players based on whether they continue to run the 3-4 defense or move toward a 4-3.

    "The elite players defy scheme," Tomlin said. "Troy Polamalu's going to be an excellent safety, regardless of what defensive scheme he's in. Casey Hampton's going to be a dominant interior defensive lineman, regardless of what scheme he's in. So the elite players defy scheme. We're not going to get enamored with that. What we're going to do is we're going to continue to shape our package to do what our players do and do well. It'll be a constant evolution, just like the players are constantly evolving."
  • YardRat
    Well, lookie here...
    • Dec 2004
    • 86171

    #2
    Re: A coach who gets it

    Let's see how Tomlin does with his philosophy before we judge if he's smarter or better than others.
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    • ParanoidAndroid
      My battery is low and it's getting dark.
      • Apr 2004
      • 16847

      #3
      Re: A coach who gets it

      When you're drafting in the first round where you normally get your "elite" players, you draft by what your team needs. I'm sure that Marv and Jouron would defend themselves by saying that they believed Whitner could become an elite player in the NFL, meaning he will be good regardless of scheme.
      You can surely choose among those "elite" candidates to see who might be a better fit.
      I think what he said is pretty obvious and I doubt Jauron or Marv would disagree and say Aaron Schobel is a system player.

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      • Bufftp
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        • Jul 2002
        • 18062

        #4
        Re: A coach who gets it

        Yet we see big name elite players sign big free agencey contracts with other teams only to flounder in their new teams scheme all too often.
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        • ParanoidAndroid
          My battery is low and it's getting dark.
          • Apr 2004
          • 16847

          #5
          Re: A coach who gets it

          I wonder how much of that has to do with the "I got paid. Now I can chill" factor.

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          • YardRat
            Well, lookie here...
            • Dec 2004
            • 86171

            #6
            Re: A coach who gets it

            Everybody loved Greg Williams right off the bat also because he stated he 'didn't like fat guys.'
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            • mybills
              81 st zoner
              • Jul 2002
              • 61717

              #7
              Re: A coach who gets it

              Originally posted by billsburgh
              why cant Jauron and his staff be more like this guy.
              Because they'd be going in reverse? We haven't even seen part two of their plan, and there's usually a 3 year bldg process. Patience grasshopper.
              I didn't come here to fight, I hate fighting. Life is way too short to spend it on fighting! Go fight with yourself, one of you will eventually win!

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              • don137
                Registered User
                • Jul 2002
                • 7720

                #8
                Re: A coach who gets it

                Some players are so talented they can fit in almost any scheme. Other players will excel better in certain schemes better then others. Some players just can cut it in certain schemes and are let go. Obviously everyone would love a player that can excel in all types of schemes but reality is they are much harder to come by especially on the defensive side.

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                • HHURRICANE
                  Registered User
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 15490

                  #9
                  Re: A coach who gets it

                  Originally posted by billsburgh
                  with so much talk the last year or two concerning drafting of players who fit a particular scheme (defensive tackle), why cant Jauron and his staff be more like this guy. Newly hired Steelers head coach recently discussed drafting players based on whether or not they fit a scheme.
                  http://www.postgazette.com/pg/07044/761700-66.stm
                  Did this guy already win them a Super Bowl? I'll wait to start patting people on the back. I think Dick Jauron and Marv have proved they can coach in this league.

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                  • MikeInRoch
                    Registered User
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 10446

                    #10
                    Re: A coach who gets it

                    Originally posted by andyxc71
                    I wonder how much of that has to do with the "I got paid. Now I can chill" factor.
                    For a good example of this, watch what Nate does with whatever team he winds up on...
                    "'Clean up your room.', 'Stand up straight.', 'Pick up your feet.', 'Take it like a man.', 'Be nice to your sister.', 'Don't mix beer and wine, ever.'. Oh yeah, 'Don't drive on the railroad track.'"

                    "Eh, Phil. That's one I happen to agree with."

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                    • Mr. Miyagi
                      Lecter's Little *****

                      • Sep 2002
                      • 53616

                      #11
                      Re: A coach who gets it

                      Originally posted by YardRat
                      Let's see how Tomlin does with his philosophy before we judge if he's smarter or better than others.
                      Exactly. Anyone can yap any crap out of their mouths and sound brilliant. What has Tomlin done? His Vikings defense sucked.

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                      • RockStar36
                        Dude's Little Ignorant Crony
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 24761

                        #12
                        Re: A coach who gets it

                        Originally posted by Mr. Miyagi
                        What has Tomlin done?
                        Eh, he was pretty funny in Major League 2. That's about all I can think of.

                        D & S Sports



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                        • HAMMER
                          I'm right, Miyagi is wrong.
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 8132

                          #13
                          Re: A coach who gets it

                          Originally posted by RockStar36
                          Eh, he was pretty funny in Major League 2. That's about all I can think of.
                          If you're looking to overtake MyBalls as the least funny zoner you are on your way.

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                          • RockStar36
                            Dude's Little Ignorant Crony
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 24761

                            #14
                            Re: A coach who gets it

                            Originally posted by HAMMER
                            If you're looking to overtake MyBalls as the least funny zoner you are on your way.
                            You don't see it?


                            Tomlin:




                            Omar Epps:

                            D & S Sports



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                            • Mr. Miyagi
                              Lecter's Little *****

                              • Sep 2002
                              • 53616

                              #15
                              Re: A coach who gets it

                              We see the resemblence, but it's still not funny.

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