One perk of cash to cap

[camelcowboy]

If we give bonus money up front then we could make a splash in the restricted free agent market. The big cap number could probally bag us both indy guards, they are up against the cap. Any other good RFA on cap strapped teams?

[Mahdi]

Re: One perk of cash to cap

If we give bonus money up front then we could make a splash in the restricted free agent market. The big cap number could probally bag us both indy guards, they are up against the cap. Any other good RFA on cap strapped teams?

Tommy Kelly... Raiders

[Ebenezer]

Re: One perk of cash to cap

If we give bonus money up front then we could make a splash in the restricted free agent market. The big cap number could probally bag us both indy guards, they are up against the cap. Any other good RFA on cap strapped teams?

remember, signing bonus or roster bonus...it is all the same money in the players pockets...the player will have to WANT to come to Buffalo...roster bonuses aren't a perk to the player.

[clumping platelets]

Re: One perk of cash to cap

signing bonus or roster bonus

just cap accounting is the difference

[YardRat]

Re: One perk of cash to cap

signing bonus or roster bonus

just cap accounting is the difference

In theory. Roster bonuses obviously are traditionally less than signing bonuses, and thus puts less up-front money into the players pockets which in turn takes the team out of the running for many FA's who want the money now.

In reality, it has a direct effect on the possible make-up of the roster and isn't just a matter of sliding numbers between columns of a spreadsheet.

[clumping platelets]

Re: One perk of cash to cap

No difference in a $10 million roster bonus or $10 million signing bonus except how it applies to the cap

[YardRat]

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Agreed. In theory. Once again, in practice, traditionally roster bonuses are less than signing bonus because of the fact that one is spread out and one isn't.

I would be very surprised to see Buffalo offer any top tier FA a roster bonus that would be equivilant to the signing bonus offered by another team.

[alohabillsfan]

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Agreed. In theory. Once again, in practice, traditionally roster bonuses are less than signing bonus because of the fact that one is spread out and one isn't.

I would be very surprised to see Buffalo offer any top tier FA a roster bonus that would be equivilant to the signing bonus offered by another team.

I believe what everyone is getting at is in the RFA market offering a roster bonus vice a signing bonus of 7 million dollars to a RFA guard (pick one) the current team has to match that offer which means they need the cap room to do it. at least thats my take, Clump?

[YardRat]

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I believe what everyone is getting at is in the RFA market offering a roster bonus vice a signing bonus of 7 million dollars to a RFA guard (pick one) the current team has to match that offer which means they need the cap room to do it. at least thats my take, Clump?

That would be a decent strategy to use, if you're willing to eat up that much cap in one year. I still contend the roster bonus would be less than the signing bonus in real dollars, though, and not equal to.

[Statman]

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Keep in mind that RFAs also cost draft picks.

[Ebenezer]

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Agreed. In theory. Once again, in practice, traditionally roster bonuses are less than signing bonus because of the fact that one is spread out and one isn't.

I would be very surprised to see Buffalo offer any top tier FA a roster bonus that would be equivilant to the signing bonus offered by another team.

would you like to recall Antoine Winfield's $12 mil theory? Roster bonuses have not been used like this in the past because not many teams have been far enough under the cap to apply a number like that all at once.

[tonyc37]

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You didn't get the press confrence at all.Cash to cap means no big signing bonues.Thats what amoratizing the future means.An example is this if you sign Steinbach to a 6 year 30 million dollar contract with a 10 million dollar bonus it breaks down like this you have 3.33 million a year in salary and 1.66 million a year in bonus money thats if you break it down evenly.So you have a cap hit of around 5 mil a year.Now if you cut/or trade him after year 2 you have cap hit of 6.6 mil.Thats what Marv was talking about the dead money if the player doesn't work out.Now the same contract cash to cap.#0 mil at 6 years,but with a 5 million signing bomus and 5 mil roster bonus after year 3.What this does is break the 5 mil up over 5 years at 1 mil per year and in march of year 4 you pay the roster money if you decide to the player.Heres where it benefits the team more than the player.If they don't keep the player he doesn't get the roster bouns and the cap hit is not as sevre

[Mahdi]

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You didn't get the press confrence at all.Cash to cap means no big signing bonues.Thats what amoratizing the future means.An example is this if you sign Steinbach to a 6 year 30 million dollar contract with a 10 million dollar bonus it breaks down like this you have 3.33 million a year in salary and 1.66 million a year in bonus money thats if you break it down evenly.So you have a cap hit of around 5 mil a year.Now if you cut/or trade him after year 2 you have cap hit of 6.6 mil.Thats what Marv was talking about the dead money if the player doesn't work out.Now the same contract cash to cap.#0 mil at 6 years,but with a 5 million signing bomus and 5 mil roster bonus after year 3.What this does is break the 5 mil up over 5 years at 1 mil per year and in march of year 4 you pay the roster money if you decide to the player.Heres where it benefits the team more than the player.If they don't keep the player he doesn't get the roster bouns and the cap hit is not as sevre

Wouldnt the Salary cap hit per year be $5 million and not 3.3?

[YardRat]

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would you like to recall Antoine Winfield's $12 mil theory? Roster bonuses have not been used like this in the past because not many teams have been far enough under the cap to apply a number like that all at once.

There are always exceptions to the rule.

Tell me honestly...Do you foresee the Bills offering a top tier FA an equivilent $ figure in roster bonus form that another team will offer as a signing bonus?

I don't.