Browns expected to pursue Clements, Steinbach

[patmoran2006]

http://www.chroniclet.com/Daily%20Pages/022107sports6.html

[RockStar36]

Re: Browns expected to pursue Clements, Steinbach

So...Clements will either go there and never make the playoffs or have a season ending injury in the pre-season, right?

[OpIv37]

Re: Browns expected to pursue Clements, Steinbach

let them sign Clements- then they won't be able to afford Steinbach and it will be one less team we have to compete with for his services.

[TacklingDummy]

Re: Browns expected to pursue Clements, Steinbach

let them sign Clements- then they won't be able to afford Steinbach and it will be one less team we have to compete with for his services.

Yeah, because Clements is going to eat up all $26 million the Browns have in cap room.

[OpIv37]

Re: Browns expected to pursue Clements, Steinbach

Yeah, because Clements is going to eat up all $26 million the Browns have in cap room.

no, but depending on how they amortize his bonus, he could easily eat up $10-$12 million. And it's the BROWNS. They have needs beyond CB and OL.

[Carlton Bailey]

Re: Browns expected to pursue Clements, Steinbach

Randy Lerner: A man who doesn't subscribe to "cash to take a crap."

[TacklingDummy]

Re: Browns expected to pursue Clements, Steinbach

And it's the BROWNS. They have needs beyond CB and OL.

As do the Bills.

It doesn't send a good message to players looking to come to Buffalo that the Bills are only going to spend up to the cap. Some players want a ring to go along with their money.

[OpIv37]

Re: Browns expected to pursue Clements, Steinbach

As do the Bills.

It doesn't send a good message to players looking to come to Buffalo that the Bills are only going to spend up to the cap. Some players want a ring to go along with their money.

agreed.

[patmoran2006]

Re: Browns expected to pursue Clements, Steinbach

the fact that we could not tag Clements this year, to either keep him or more likely trade and get anything of value for him, is absolutely brutal.
Marv's move last year was one of the single-worst moves I've ever seen a GM make in my entire life.
Even a third round pick for Clements were we able to tag him right now would've been extremely beneficiary. Instead, we hired him for one season on a mediocre team my grandmother could've seen wasn't making the playoffs. So we improve as the year goes on and then let our top defender hit the open market and get absolutely nada in return for it

[Mr. Miyagi]

Re: Browns expected to pursue Clements, Steinbach

the fact that we could not tag Clements this year, to either keep him or more likely trade and get anything of value for him, is absolutely brutal.
Marv's move last year was one of the single-worst moves I've ever seen a GM make in my entire life.
Even a third round pick for Clements were we able to tag him right now would've been extremely beneficiary. Instead, we hired him for one season on a mediocre team my grandmother could've seen wasn't making the playoffs. So we improve as the year goes on and then let our top defender hit the open market and get absolutely nada in return for it

If we had tagged Clements, teams would need to give up 2 1st rounders to trade for him. No one would give that up for Clements and we'd be stuck with paying him top 5 money.

Let the guy walk. He's not as good as he thinks he is.

[Devin]

Re: Browns expected to pursue Clements, Steinbach

the fact that we could not tag Clements this year, to either keep him or more likely trade and get anything of value for him, is absolutely brutal.
Marv's move last year was one of the single-worst moves I've ever seen a GM make in my entire life.

Unfortunatley I have to agree.

Id have let him hold out before giving him that promise. That was a bonehead move, I realize he would have thrown a temper tantrum and all but not having that chip to use on him this year blows ass.

Marv screwed up there.

[patmoran2006]

Re: Browns expected to pursue Clements, Steinbach

If we had tagged Clements, teams would need to give up 2 1st rounders to trade for him. No one would give that up for Clements and we'd be stuck with paying him top 5 money.

Let the guy walk. He's not as good as he thinks he is.

No, teams would have to give up two first rounders for him if they signed him... Had we tagged him this year, we could have willingly traded up to a team, for a first rounder, a second, a fifth rounder, whatever we could get

[patmoran2006]

Re: Browns expected to pursue Clements, Steinbach

If we had tagged Clements, teams would need to give up 2 1st rounders to trade for him. No one would give that up for Clements and we'd be stuck with paying him top 5 money.

Let the guy walk. He's not as good as he thinks he is.

oops.. repeat post.. edited

[Dr. Lecter]

Re: Browns expected to pursue Clements, Steinbach

It was a really bad move by marv last year there's no getting around it, and it costed us a first day pick this year.

No it wasn't, at least not necessarily.

If the Bills did not make that promise he likely would have held out.

Secondly, his tagging would have immediately cost the Bills 12 million or so against the cap. That would have limited or stopped the Bills from making moves early in free agency this year.

So when actually looks into what the ramifications of tagging Nate again would have been, the move looks rather insiginificant.

[Devin]

Re: Browns expected to pursue Clements, Steinbach

While i see your point I disagree.

Nate would have brought something from another team, there is tons of interest we would have been able to move him.